Adrian Sutil set to stand trial over assault claims

**Hermann** · 1st February 2012, 15:45

British press will be quick to protect Ramilton and put the blame on someone else, as usual. So predictable

**Greig** · 1st February 2012, 16:01

Like the Spanish press blame everyone but Fernando? Don't know what Lewis did but let's bash into him and the press as usual, so predictable

**Hermann** · 1st February 2012, 16:08

Originally Posted by Greig

Like the Spanish press blame everyone but Fernando? Don't know what Lewis did but let's bash into him and the press as usual, so predictable

And you coming to the rescue as soon as someone dares to criticise british press, so predictable too

Spanish press has zero influence on public opinion in F1, you know. F1 is british. And if you don't know what Crashilton did this time, just read a bit, maybe you have to catch up.

**Greig** · 1st February 2012, 16:12

How does the Spanish press have no influence on their readers?

I did read, Sutil calls him a coward, for what and why.....maybe the Spanish press know the answer?

Why did the British press who protect Lewis so much even publish this story? makes a lot of sense right....

**Hermann** · 1st February 2012, 16:16

Originally Posted by Greig

How does the Spanish press have no influence on their readers?

I did read, Sutil calls him a coward, for what and why.....maybe the Spanish press know the answer?

They have not much influence because not many spanish F1 fans out there, compared to the UK or Germany. And because the language of F1 is english. How many people here actually read the spanish press? And how many the british press? Maybe we should set up a poll.
Anyway, the Macca PR machine was quick to react here. And Hamilton being a coward is nothing new either. Which has been my personal opinion about him anyway.

**Sianellen** · 1st February 2012, 16:17

Originally Posted by Hermann

And you coming to the rescue as soon as someone dares to criticise british press, so predictable too

Spanish press has zero influence on public opinion in F1, you know. F1 is british. And if you don't know what Crashilton did this time, just read a bit, maybe you have to catch up.

I live in Britain and they don't influence my opinion. British press will play to their audience who are British and the Spanish press will play to their audience who are Spanish. I don't really see how they are defending him here tbh. All they have done is reported about an attempt to ask why he couldn't attend. It's not an opinion on anything.

**Greig** · 1st February 2012, 16:24

Originally Posted by Hermann

They have not much influence because not many spanish F1 fans out there, compared to the UK or Germany. And because the language of F1 is english. How many people here actually read the spanish press? And how many the british press? Maybe we should set up a poll.
Anyway, the Macca PR machine was quick to react here. And Hamilton being a coward is nothing new either. Which has been my personal opinion about him anyway.

Makes me wonder why Spain has 2 GP's when there is not much interest, funny how Barcelona is packed with Spanish fans on GP weekend for not much interest, same with Germany really, Football is way more popular in Britain than F1, I really don't get why people think F1 is so big in the UK? it really isn't.

**scuderiafan** · 1st February 2012, 16:31

to be honest, i think Sutil has done a very bad thing, and Lewis has done the right thing to keep away a little. for sure they are friends, but Lewis would have screwed his 2012 if he got involved in the court proceedings. i don't see a massive problem with what Lewis has done.

**Sianellen** · 1st February 2012, 16:33

Originally Posted by scuderiafan

to be honest, i think Sutil has done a very bad thing, and Lewis has done the right thing to keep away a little. for sure they are friends, but Lewis would have screwed his 2012 if he got involved in the court proceedings. i don't see a massive problem with what Lewis has done.

Yeah, I agree with you

**Jose Lorca** · 1st February 2012, 16:33

What a terrible friend Hamilton is. What a ****.

**Hermann** · 1st February 2012, 16:43

Originally Posted by Jose Lorca

What a terrible friend Hamilton is. What a ****.

"When you need a friend in F1, buy yourself a dog' wasn't it Flavio who said that?

From Hamilton claiming that he 1. didn't see anything and 2. doesn't remember anything i have to say his selective memory and problems with his eyesight must be a liability for a F1 driver.

**epiclyaddicted** · 1st February 2012, 16:43

Well I have to say, I can't really blame Lewis for this. F1 is a very cut throat business, and Sutil's career is probably over, certainly in F1. I've read many people saying his super licence may be revoked, he almost certainly will have visa issues for many countries (starting with the US most likely).

Lewis probably did the right thing looking after his own interest first.

Was it Ayrton who said you can't have friends in F1, because they're all competitors?

**Tifosi** · 1st February 2012, 16:44

Originally Posted by Hermann

And you coming to the rescue as soon as someone dares to criticise british press, so predictable too

Spanish press has zero influence on public opinion in F1, you know. F1 is british. And if you don't know what Crashilton did this time, just read a bit, maybe you have to catch up.

No sane person comes to the rescue of the British press and I don't think that was Greig's point anyway. The point is that EVERY nation has bias and vested interest in ALL areas of its media. Always has done and always will. Also, ALL press has influence on its nation - that's the only reason they continue to sell copy!!!

No one nation is unique in having irresponsible elements to its media and I don't think anyone can seriously suggest that the country they live in is "different" purely because its media supports something that they support.

Quite simply put they are all as bad as each other

**Tifosi** · 1st February 2012, 16:55

Well I blame Lewis 100%. I know for a fact that seeing Lewis win a race has made me want to gash someone in the neck before now, so how anyone in their right mind can think that Adrian admitting he was sorry that he had committed grievous bodily harm is not punishment enough must not be reading enough trashy newspapers.

Obviously if Lewis was a REAL friend of Adrian's he'd be up there doing something that Adrian thinks he should do for him like admitting it was his fault or that he goaded Adrian to do it.

I do wonder if anyone really sees this kind of thing as anything but what it is - rubbish to sell newspapers and subject people to website flash banners while they are drinking their coffee. Best to laugh at it and move on. Just DON'T buy their papers or click on their sponsored links - or you only have yourself to blame

**Jacquesvw** · 1st February 2012, 17:17

Lewis did nothing wrong in my opinion, so why should he waste his time defending another guy for being a drunk hooligan at a bar.

**Greig** · 1st February 2012, 18:03

Sutil's comments came from Bild, but we all know it's the Brit media that influences opinions right....seems Bild can influence just as many on here

Anyway how can Sutil consider being friends with Lewis after those modelling pics.....

**Sianellen** · 1st February 2012, 19:23

Originally Posted by Greig

Anyway how can Sutil consider being friends with Lewis after those modelling pics.....

So true...

**Suzie** · 1st February 2012, 22:11

I guess Lewis has to distance himself from that kind of shenanigans. Okay, it sucks for Adrian Sutil that his so-called mate hasn't been in touch, but really, he should really be keeping his head down and concentrating on more important issues than this. Bitching about Lewis not texting him when he has bigger worries right now? Give me a break.

**TheProdigalSon** · 1st February 2012, 22:25

Don't blame Lewis for staying clear, as for Adrian it's pretty much career over.

**epiclyaddicted** · 1st February 2012, 22:38

Originally Posted by Suzie

I guess Lewis has to distance himself from that kind of shenanigans. Okay, it sucks for Adrian Sutil that his so-called mate hasn't been in touch, but really, he should really be keeping his head down and concentrating on more important issues than this. Bitching about Lewis not texting him when he has bigger worries right now? Give me a break.

Think Adrian's main concern was that Lewis was an eyewitness of the incident, so he thinks Lewis appearing in court probably would have helped his case in some way. I'm guessing!

**Alonsomaniac** · 1st February 2012, 22:57

For me the truth is simple: McLaren told Lewis not to get involved in this. They want Lewis to concentrate on one thing and one thing only: the coming season. No distraction of any kind allowed.
That's why he did not testify and that's why Sutil cannot reach him on the phone and why he does not talk about it.

**Tony** · 1st February 2012, 23:40

I'm not sure why people are quick to blame Hamilton for anything either.... we don't really know what happened and for all we know, it wouldn't have made a difference.... Sutil did something stupid and now has to pay the price for it....

**brembo man** · 2nd February 2012, 00:20

Sutil got sentenced to 18 mos. suspended sentence and a 200,000 euro fine. And as we all know , no ride for this season.

**Corey** · 2nd February 2012, 00:53

I don't know, Lewis probably wouldn't have made a difference even if he has appeared in court. The guy even said he couldn't recall much, so he i dont think he'd not eat his own words and start adding some juice into the case when he was on court.

**brembo man** · 2nd February 2012, 00:56

I wonder if being convicted means he's out of F1?

**REDARMYSOJA** · 2nd February 2012, 02:35

Originally Posted by brembo man

I wonder if being convicted means he's out of F1?

Probably, since a criminal record might prevent him from entering some countries.

**REDARMYSOJA** · 2nd February 2012, 02:38

Originally Posted by Tony

I'm not sure why people are quick to blame Hamilton for anything either.... we don't really know what happened and for all we know, it wouldn't have made a difference.... Sutil did something stupid and now has to pay the price for it....

True, but still a crappy way to treat a friend.