Sack Perez...

[sav_pap]

...from Sauber and bring him to FERARRI.


NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kingu]

lets see first what the situation with Massa is after Monaco.

[vecchiasignora]

sack him now hehe

[sheikomatic]

Misleading title is misleading.

Cannot agree more, gave Alonso a lot of challenge, cracked a bit but still get on with it.

He was charging throughout the race, if not from that off-track he could win. But it is still a big IF, Alonso is a great defender though. But he is simply the driver of the day.

[Katu]

i just read title and thought what the heck?!?

[sheikomatic]

First thing I thought was, sacking Perez out from Ferrari Driver Academy. LMAO

[KonstaKoo]

Narain K would´ve done a better job that Whiner today. Checo would be so much better for Ferrari.

[Aruba]

Hahahaha.. misleading title

[Aussie]

Sack sack sack

Useless crap thread

[Salvador Dali]

Perez has a contract with Ferrari but is on a loan to Sauber as I understand it. So no need to sack anyone, just give it time.
FM can still turn it in to a good year for him but will it be enough? I love Massa but I have to say that ever since Perez came to F1 I want him in a Ferrari, but with a real chance, not like Fissi.
So leave the man where he is this year, but prepare every thing for next year.

[Aussie]

Perez has a contract with Ferrari but is on a loan to Sauber as I understand it. So no need to sack anyone, just give it time.
FM can still turn it in to a good year for him but will it be enough? I love Massa but I have to say that ever since Perez came to F1 I want him in a Ferrari, but with a real chance, not like Fissi.
So leave the man where he is this year, but prepare every thing for next year.

Very true

[sheikomatic]

Bring Perez and all the sponsors: Telmex, Claro, NEC Mexico, Disensa, Cuervo Tequila and the Mexico Tourism Ministry.

Ferrari's budget getting smaller every year. Last year, Etihad left us, this year Mubadala left us. Only Kaspersky Lab and TNT (the drink company not a bomb) joined.
At the same time Perez may be a good marketing and good exposure for Fiat, and Ferrari.

Peter Sauber will lost a lot of money without Perez but there is still a lot of pay-driver hunting for an F1 seat. Maybe bigger prize money this year?

[KonstaKoo]

Perez has a contract with Ferrari but is on a loan to Sauber as I understand it. So no need to sack anyone, just give it time.
FM can still turn it in to a good year for him but will it be enough? I love Massa but I have to say that ever since Perez came to F1 I want him in a Ferrari, but with a real chance, not like Fissi.
So leave the man where he is this year, but prepare every thing for next year.

Why should Felipe be given any more leeway? He´s been quite bad for some time but todays showing was worse than Narain K. He is nothing but liability, 97 secs behind FA!!

[Hornet]

I am proud of the fact that Perez is in Ferrari's young driver program

Ferrari needs the best people in the team, be it the current seat or in our young driver program, so I'm glad we pick a right young driver.

[Ferrarichamp]

didn't SD just say that Felipe was staying put?

[Hornet]

didn't SD just say that Felipe was staying put?

This year yes, Luca have said Massa contract stands. But the contract ends this year, and I don't think Ferrari have made a decision for next year.

[Greig]

On a day we win and still some feel the need to look for the negatives

[sav_pap]

On a day we win and still some feel the need to look for the negatives

Greig, no negatives only positives. There isn't anything more positive of a Superb driver (I mean Perez not Massa) to our team.

You need just 20 posts to have a sum of 20.000. I'll drink to that when it'll happen.

[meh123]

rumour has it that Massa has 10 races on contract per year...I think LdM would not cut Massa off mid season...but who knows..

Maybe LDM likes tequila :P

[sheikomatic]

rumour has it that Massa has 10 races on contract per year...I think LdM would not cut Massa off mid season...but who knows..

Maybe LDM likes tequila :P

Perez brings Cuervo Tequila sponsorship to Sauber. Transfer to Ferrari maybe?

[KonstaKoo]

This year yes, Luca have said Massa contract stands. But the contract ends this year, and I don't think Ferrari have made a decision for next year.

So they have decided not to fight for WCC. Odd because for SF that´s always been the big prize and the drivers´champs come as a by-product. Felipe needs to be replaced with a racing car driver ASAP since no matter how good FA drives, he cannot take the WCC by himself.

[Hornet]

So they have decided not to fight for WCC. Odd because for SF that´s always been the big prize and the drivers´champs come as a by-product. Felipe needs to be replaced with a racing car driver ASAP since no matter how good FA drives, he cannot take the WCC by himself.

Well, in my opinion, its not as straightforward as that. Regardless of what we think about Massa's performance, lets put that aside for awhile. The thing is if we take a new driver and put in Massa's seat, this new driver takes time to settle in. The new driver wasn't here during testing, and it won't work if we take him, put him in the car and ask him to get good results with it. The car is completely alien to him, the team is a completely different environment.

So this new driver will probably find it very difficult, and the result is counter productive. He'll probably struggle and finish at the back anyway.

The best time to get a new driver in is at the end of the season. Without racing, he can slowly get use to working in the team without all the stress, and more important is that he's involve in the development of the car from the start. He will get to test the car during test session, and by 2013, he will be ready to race for Ferrari.

Getting a new driver in now is not going to help improve the situation.

[xpman]

NOW Watch The Race again but through the eyes of Drivers and Team Enjoy http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpo...ighlights_auto

[KonstaKoo]

Well, in my opinion, its not as straightforward as that. Regardless of what we think about Massa's performance, lets put that aside for awhile. The thing is if we take a new driver and put in Massa's seat, this new driver takes time to settle in. The new driver wasn't here during testing, and it won't work if we take him, put him in the car and ask him to get good results with it. The car is completely alien to him, the team is a completely different environment.

So this new driver will probably find it very difficult, and the result is counter productive. He'll probably struggle and finish at the back anyway.

The best time to get a new driver in is at the end of the season. Without racing, he can slowly get use to working in the team without all the stress, and more important is that he's involve in the development of the car from the start. He will get to test the car during test session, and by 2013, he will be ready to race for Ferrari.

Getting a new driver in now is not going to help improve the situation.

Well, a new driver could have a couple of races scoring only point or two and still be miles ahead from what we´ve seen from Felipe these two races. Felipe is a liability and although loyalty is a virtue, it has to have limits somewhere. Today Felipe was the laughing stock and ONLY because his so-called racing was abysmal. Not just bad but Jean-Denis Deletraz.

[Salvador Dali]

How many remember 2009? Fisi was never a bad driver but somehow he didn't look much better than Badoer (who was never a really good driver). Even Kimi looked like a superman next to them, but we all know how bad Kimi looked next to Massa before his accident. So just like Mr. Hornet said it is not that simple.

Leave Massa alone, Ferrari will know when and what to do as they are the ones that have an agreement whit him.

[Gilles27]

Give Checo more time, he is still too young. In that F2012 beast without any pre season testing, he would look as bad as Massa does compared to Alonso. At Sauber he has time and no media pressure, he can develop very well there
Massa served the Scuderia for several years, he deserves to finish this season and then in 2013, Checo can come and fill the second seat!

[Curbs]

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227...-Perez-rumours

Whitmarsh adds fuel to Perez rumours

It is just a matter of time before Sergio Perez replaces Felipe Massa at Ferrari, according to Martin Whitmarsh.

Perez, who is on the books of Ferrari as an academy driver, has been linked with the Italian outfit since he made the step up to Formula One last year and the rumours will no doubt intensify over the next couple of weeks after his impressive display at Sepang.

The young Mexican came from P9 on the grid to finish second behind Fernando Alonso at the Malaysian Grand Prix.

With Massa struggling to make to make much of an impact so far this year, a lot people believe Ferrari will axe the Brazilian and bring Perez in, and Whitmarsh believes it could happen before the Chinese GP on April 15.

"He was a revelation, I imagine he has put a bit of pressure on Mr Massa," the McLaren team principal said.

"I don't know what the odds are on him switching teams before China, but there must be consideration."

Ferrari, meanwhile, have dismissed the reports as speculation with team boss Stefano Domenicali telling Sky Sports F1's Ted Kravitz that it is "just not true".

[Omegablue]

I say let's give Massa some races with the updated car. And let LDM decide from there.
Remember we can't compare him to Alonso. It was like comparing Rubens to Michael, and we know how Rubens prefromed when the car wasn't going. But when the car was competitive, so was Rubens.

[Silent Bob]

I say let's give Massa some races with the updated car. And let LDM decide from there.
Remember we can't compare him to Alonso. It was like comparing Rubens to Michael, and we know how Rubens prefromed when the car wasn't going. But when the car was competitive, so was Rubens.

If a driver is only competitive when he has the quickest car then he isn't much of a driver. It's in times when the car isn't competitive that driver's need inspiring drives. Kimi was let go for lackluster effort because he didn't have a winning car.
Now I've never slagged massa and wished him all the best... but to finish where he did on a day when his team mate pulls out an improbable win.... that has to be a turning point for the team. ferrari has 35 constructor's points... how many from Massa? He barely finished ahead of the back markers and even Button passed him after being dead last. Something is up with Massa... he seems ok in the early parts of races and then just fades and fades. I was one of the ones saying give him some time... but I was really disappointed with him today.

[kheopsb]

First off congrats to the team and to our driver program for developing Checo. on the unavoidable Massa topic, I think it would be the nice thing to do to let him drive out the season, although this is a cut throat sport, not a charity, therefore any decision taken to help us win is a good one.
That being said one thing I don't get is everyone asking for us to wait until Massa has a better car... I thought comparing 2 drivers with equal equipment was the only true comparison, why should we now wait for Massa to get a ≠ car. If Alonso put the car on the top step of the podium, it means the car has it in her, maybe not easy to extract but it's still there and Massa can't seem to find north. I'm not sure what a ≠ car will tell us about him that we don't know today.