2012 Monaco GP - Qualifying Thread

[Greig]

Why were they discussing on Twitter about how to use or not use the SS set for Q3? Saving the tyres for the race, that's what kind of strategy it is, if they did so. I would expect if they did, they felt it was best. Ferrari has shown they have a better grasp than most on these tyres. So I'll trust their decision. In recent years points were decided in Quali, but if you haven't noticed, this is recent years.

I am aware of twitter, they said one set of SS left and how to use them the best, saying one set left suggests new to me.

So you are predicting tomorrow will be overtaking galore? I think you will be very disappointed then, we seen last year Alonso in a much faster car still not able to pass a much slower Vettel, so what is different this year, same SS tyres as last year.

[Sianellen]

sent both the drivers out so late n see where we ended up!

Not sure how that is the case. The pole lap wasn't set on an early run.

[bonzo]

I am aware of twitter, they said one set of SS left and how to use them the best, saying one set left suggests new to me.

So you are predicting tomorrow will be overtaking galore? I think you will be very disappointed then, we seen last year Alonso in a much faster car still not able to pass a much slower Vettel, so what is different this year, same SS tyres as last year.

May be stay a lap or two longer on fresh SS and move a place or two up...

[Ferrarichamp]

stefano is a real idiot...he's gonna take this great team to the dumps!!!

nah, there's always next year.

[fadyferrari]

yeah you know better

the race is tomorrow not today, points are not handed out for Saturdays.

well i dont know better,but i do enough....if it was anyother track,i wouldnt be too disappointed...

surely quali doesnt carry any points,but i m sure u know how important grid position is in monaco with the narrow track n difficult overtaking.....plus a good grid spot could have made us a bit flexible with the strategy!

[Crucial_Xtreme]

I am aware of twitter, they said one set of SS left and how to use them the best, saying one set left suggests new to me.

So you are predicting tomorrow will be overtaking galore? I think you will be very disappointed then, we seen last year Alonso in a much faster car still not able to pass a much slower Vettel, so what is different this year, same SS tyres as last year.

I don't know what tomorrow will bring, neither do you. Fernando can easily gain a position or two on the start as usual. That goes for Felipe too. There's no telling how the tyres will degrade. Our pitstops are the fastest of the grid, so we can clearly gain position with the undercut. Fernando starting 5th isn't bad. Felipe is 7th so we're in good position. All of this disappointment is just because people overreacted to free practice.

[fadyferrari]

nah, there's always next year.

a lotta talk abt driver contracts...i wonder when does stefano's contract ends!

[Hornet]

May be stay a lap or two longer on fresh SS and move a place or two up...

You can't use the fresh tires, IF there is any.

You have to start the race with whatever tire you set your fastest time with in Q3.

Which will be worse if we are on used tires in Q3, because it will be its 3rd cycle already during the race! Not a good idea.

[Greig]

I don't know what tomorrow will bring, neither do you. Fernando can easily gain a position or two on the start as usual. That goes for Felipe too. There's no telling how the tyres will degrade. Our pitstops are the fastest of the grid, so we can clearly gain position with the undercut. Fernando starting 5th isn't bad. Felipe is 7th so we're in good position. All of this disappointment is just because people overreacted to free practice.

And neither do Ferrari know, so I would doubt they would give away grid position today. I am not unhappy with where we are, I just don't think we used scrubbed tyres in any sort of strategy for tomorrow as that would be really silly around Monaco and I trust Ferrari would know that

[Ree]

Yeah, not brilliant quali for us but great that both cars made it into Q3. I know it's difficult to overtake round Monaco but if our drivers can stay on the pace we may have a chance of overtaking via pitstops.... that and a little bit of lady luck !

[fadyferrari]

Not sure how that is the case. The pole lap wasn't set on an early run.

not in that sense...but atleast the drivers could have got a feel of the track n known where to push to eke out that extra bit.....it gets all panicky when u they go out so late...!

[Poltergeistes]

gosh, just cause you know, people can't complain about how Felipe is taking the team to the ground today, now it's Stefano, it's all his fault today.

Let's hope we can have some luck with the strategies tomorrow, so that way we can go back to sacking only Felipe and Stefano and Pat, and not the entire team but Fernando. cause we are now down to sacking entire groups, like Felipe is already a goner, but we have to fire the top directors, we also have to fire those responsable for not bringing in the best design, so there goes our entire engineering team, and also our entire pitwall, don't forget this one, very important, cause you know the strategies sucks always!!



Wish people would just stop with the witch-hunt 24/7/12.

[Greig]

Yeah, not brilliant quali for us but great that both cars made it into Q3. I know it's difficult to overtake round Monaco but if our drivers can stay on the pace we may have a chance of overtaking via pitstops.... that and a little bit of lady luck !

And Lewis might wipe out a few as he did last year

[fadyferrari]

well if the positions stay the same, only hamilton has the chance of taking the lead from alonso in the championship....m i right?

[Ree]

And Lewis might wipe out a few as he did last year

lol

Yh, Schumacher isn't having the best season in terms of collisions and actually finishing the race so maybe he'll do us a couple of favours too

[PaulW]

Already the talk of Stefano being the devil.. LOL. Some people..

I think maybe the team sent both drivers out on used SS's instead of the new ones. I think that was the strategy. Some of you act like points are awarded for Quali.

My first thought was the car just didn't work the SS as well as others. But, your post, along with Rocky's call to Seb makes sense. Anyone can see with these tires and the power they give the undercut, means starting behind isn't the problem it used to be. If that's the case I'd make it a great call by Stefano and well spotted Crucial_Xtreme (although I read the same thought elsewhere as well).


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[PaulW]

Amazing lap from Schumacher. So good to see, almost emotional.

Shame for the ridiculous penalty costing him the pole though.

Not happy with P5/P7 but it's good to see Massa up there.

Agree, Agree, Agree



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[fadyferrari]

Are you sure it was traffic?

I don't see any evidence to support that.

Maybe the pace just isn't there.

i was talking abt spain.....n yes i did see massa getting stuck in traffic on his last flying lap in spain

[Oracle]

Already the talk of Stefano being the devil.. LOL. Some people..

I think maybe the team sent both drivers out on used SS's instead of the new ones. I think that was the strategy. Some of you act like points are awarded for Quali.

are you serious? at monaco qualifying is crucial. strategy is second here because you cant overtake and undercut only works if you CAN undercut which depends on your opponents. pathetic qualifying, with alonso waiting to come out last into heavy traffic and only getting 1 flying lap.

[Ferrarichamp]

there's still a slight chance of rain apparently.

[Jas]

imo, bad decision to wait till the last 5min, look at last year, when their was a crash in the last 5min of quali i think, then we would have been in the !!! Monaco is simple....put in a banker lap early on, come in, wait, then go out again and push a bit more!!!! atleast our drivers are starting on the clean side, i dont know how much its worth?!?!? The only worrying thing is that we have the big boys at the front who are unlikley to make a mistake :( if where in the top five with both drivers, i shall be very happy!!!

[scuderiafan]

some fans are real idiot...they are gonna take this great tifosi to the dumps!!!

[Greig]

MS took pole at the end, really it made no difference. We had one set of new tyres to use.

[Sianellen]

not in that sense...but atleast the drivers could have got a feel of the track n known where to push to eke out that extra bit.....it gets all panicky when u they go out so late...!

I imagine the team had their reasons.

[scuderiafan]

gosh, just cause you know, people can't complain about how Felipe is taking the team to the ground today, now it's Stefano, it's all his fault today.

Let's hope we can have some luck with the strategies tomorrow, so that way we can go back to sacking only Felipe and Stefano and Pat, and not the entire team but Fernando. cause we are now down to sacking entire groups, like Felipe is already a goner, but we have to fire the top directors, we also have to fire those responsable for not bringing in the best design, so there goes our entire engineering team, and also our entire pitwall, don't forget this one, very important, cause you know the strategies sucks always!!



Wish people would just stop with the witch-hunt 24/7/12.

This.

I tell you I am bloody sick of some fair weathers just saying nothing when the team is going great, then come on here and ask for sackings and whatnot.
Constructive criticism and all that, but this just sounds like spoilt children crying.

Sick and tired.

Both cars in q3 not bad, and sure better could be done, but a mistake was made. Bigger mistakes were made when Ferrari won Championships.

[Gerhard Berger]

like others, i was slightly disappointed in qualifying, thought we could have had both cars in the top 5.

However, i do agree with Crucial Xtreme - there will be safety cars and pitstop strategy will be crucial.

[fadyferrari]

aah,seems someone is so in love with stefano.....cant handle even 1 word against him....

[fadyferrari]

like others, i was slightly disappointed in qualifying, thought we could have had both cars in the top 5.

However, i do agree with Crucial Xtreme - there will be safety cars and pitstop strategy will be crucial.

i do hope fernando still comes out leading the championship....

[Ste]

Agree, Agree, Agree



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[Ferrarichamp]

i do hope fernando still comes out leading the championship....

let's hope so, in any case we need a good step forward for Canada.