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    Button says Alonso not in the class of Senna and Prost

    http://www.scottishsundayexpress.co....nd-Alain-Prost

    I have no idea what this clowns problem is. He's not in the class of Hamilton and Alonso...

    Or Webber and Vettel... or Massa.

    He seems to take shots at Alonso every second weekend. Congratulations on qualifying in the top 10 Jenson.

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    To be fair I think the title of the story has been wrongly worded. I think he's just stating that the new drivers, no matter how great they are, can't be compared with the old era ones because of how the sport has changed. Though yeah, him saying that Alonso's not the only great out there is negative. That's like saying...yeah he's good. Not the greatest.

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    I think its fair to say Schumacher is the best of the post Senna era. I would say Alonso second behind him.

    If these drivers are comparable to Senna and Prost is difficult to judge really. In many ways the cars are easier to drive now, but in many ways they are much harder.

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    Button has been taken out of context.
    I wouldn’t compare him to other greats of the eighties. It was 20, 30 years ago. It’s a completely different sport now. They are completely different times.”
    I assume this was more his point, but that does not make headlines

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    Quote Originally Posted by khizerk View Post
    To be fair I think the title of the story has been wrongly worded. I think he's just stating that the new drivers, no matter how great they are, can't be compared with the old era ones because of how the sport has changed. Though yeah, him saying that Alonso's not the only great out there is negative. That's like saying...yeah he's good. Not the greatest.
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    The headline is pure BS, he is not saying anything special.

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    It's just Jenson trying to sound wise and making a pig's ear of it.

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    Pfft ! this from a driver who cant understand how his car works
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    I'm sick of him talking all this **** about Fernando. He doesn't say anything about Button?
    Every week Button is talking this and that about a title battle, which he is not a part of.


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    Man what is this guy's problem?

    MCcheat are publishing these message perhaps? Else I'd say he's right, Alonso is a class higher then them hehe meaning the same thing as Jetson said , one class higher aint the same.
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    he is just trying to get into FERNANDO's head. cheap move. PRETTY PATHETIC.
    he can't even get ahead of lewis. he just got lucky last season that lewis is dealing with something else outside of racing.
    just like the analysis in the off season before he joined mclaren that lewis is just going to swallow him alive.
    BOTTOM LINE HE HAVE NO SKILLS TO MATCH BOTH FERNANDO AND LEWIS. he will just try to beat this two with pathetic comments
    Hell would have broken loose

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    I think F1 journalism goes like this:
    "Button, do you think Alonso is in the same class as Senna and Prost?"
    "Yes, I think for sure he will remembered as one of the greats"->headline: "Button: Alonso one of the greats, unlike Hamilton or Vettel"
    "No, I think you can't compare such different ears, he can be compared with the greats of this generation though"->headline: "Button: Alonso not in the same class as Senna and Prost"

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    I think you have nailed it Agron

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    Ohhh..Jenson is back again....I really want to thank Jenson for giving is comments...
    But i do have one question for Jenson...are you in their class to know or comment who`s there and who`s not in the class of prost`s and Senna`s...you are totally not..so u r not the person to comment...this is none of your business Mr Button...Go and get resolve your tyre heating and tyre lock issue first....And what happen to your 6 back to back reverse victories you were talking about after the last race...


    What is Jenson`s class then ?

    After Germany he said he will beat Fernando and win the Championship ..but in order to beat Fernando he has to beat his team mate Lewis hamilton....
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    Button is a pie... He spent 2 races staring at the rear of Alonso's car. To make matters worse one of those races was at Hockenheim and wasn't he the one blabbing about he is not one of those who believes overtaking is impossible around Hungary during the drivers parade? Where were his overtakes then?

    His teammate keeps schooling him this year so I would suggest he focus on that instead of being drawn into these silly little arguments.

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    I guess some people just don't read what Jenson actually said
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    Button just saying that Fernando is 1 of the greatest of this modern era. Its like try to compare Fernando and Fangio. They all greats in thier own times. So so hard to compare. Different cars, technology, etc etc. He isnt saying Fernando isnt a great, but you just cannt compare him to past greats, Senna, Prost.

    Fair comment really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Button just saying that Fernando is 1 of the greatest of this modern era. Its like try to compare Fernando and Fangio. They all greats in thier own times. So so hard to compare. Different cars, technology, etc etc.
    I think any great driver would still be no matter what generation he is in. Now if you could somehow magically perform a time warp and drop Alonso into a D50 or Fangio into an F2012 both would probably be lost, at least until they figure it out. But If Fangio were born into this generation he would be at the top and if Fernando born in Fangio's time he would be also.

    Still, I agree it is hard to compare because of the time periods and that's why I don't agree with listing "The Greatest Drivers" in a particular pecking order. The best you can do is make a list of the greats in no particular order as they are all talented.


    He isnt saying Fernando isnt a great, but you just cannt compare him to past greats, Senna, Prost.

    Fair comment really.
    It is a fair comment and I don't have a problem with what Button said, but I saw Senna and Prost both race and I will compare Alonso to them. He strikes me as a combination of both men. He has Senna's inner drive and steely determination tempered by Prost's intelligence and smoothness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA View Post
    I think any great driver would still be no matter what generation he is in. Now if you could somehow magically perform a time warp and drop Alonso into a D50 or Fangio into an F2012 both would probably be lost, at least until they figure it out. But If Fangio were born into this generation he would be at the top and if Fernando born in Fangio's time he would be also.

    Still, I agree it is hard to compare because of the time periods and that's why I don't agree with listing "The Greatest Drivers" in a particular pecking order. The best you can do is make a list of the greats in no particular order as they are all talented.




    It is a fair comment and I don't have a problem with what Button said, but I saw Senna and Prost both race and I will compare Alonso to them. He strikes me as a combination of both men. He has Senna's inner drive and steely determination tempered by Prost's intelligence and smoothness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    I guess some people just don't read what Jenson actually said
    I think people are generally sick of him saying anything....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfettafan View Post
    I think people are generally sick of him saying anything....
    Shouldn't read it then
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA View Post
    I think any great driver would still be no matter what generation he is in. Now if you could somehow magically perform a time warp and drop Alonso into a D50 or Fangio into an F2012 both would probably be lost, at least until they figure it out. But If Fangio were born into this generation he would be at the top and if Fernando born in Fangio's time he would be also.

    Still, I agree it is hard to compare because of the time periods and that's why I don't agree with listing "The Greatest Drivers" in a particular pecking order. The best you can do is make a list of the greats in no particular order as they are all talented.




    It is a fair comment and I don't have a problem with what Button said, but I saw Senna and Prost both race and I will compare Alonso to them. He strikes me as a combination of both men. He has Senna's inner drive and steely determination tempered by Prost's intelligence and smoothness.
    The only way such comparisons work is you value their skill and influence compared with other people in their own eras. Seeing how Alonso ended the Schumy reign, and has then become and is becoming the best driver on the grid for the next 10 years, I would say it's fair to classify him as one of the greats. Unlike other greats though, he has almost no weak points, adapts to any car, is second to none in speed -in anything-, I can't really think of an all time great that was more consistant than him, and thrives in the kind of high pressure situations where other drivers crumble. This is a set of skills only a handful of all time greats ever had, if at all.
    Also, if you somehow drop any top driver of today in the 50s after 5 races they would either be dead or they would mop the floor with the entire grid. These guys are athlete-monks that have fought off thousands of competitors while drivers of previous eras were playboys or professional amateurs, some of which faced almost no competition. The situation probably changed around the eighties, and as such the difference between todays grid in skill and preparation compared to that generation may not be as big, but the physical excellence of drivers will continue to improve, and on average F1 drivers in 20 or 30 years (if it still exists) will be slightly better and will face tougher competition than the drivers of today or of the 80s (although some extraordinary talented driver of today or of the 90s or 80s may still be better than the new generation, although it's unlikely).

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    Fernando is so much better than you Jenson your just jealous

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