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    Quote Originally Posted by Sha1 View Post
    If you guys still want to see the whole thing, let me know!
    I would still like to see it Sha1

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    Quote Originally Posted by brembo man View Post
    Ferrari's are never dogs. Askiing a driver or having a car to do better than 1st place ? Constant DNFs is a sure sign of a team's cars being dogs. The Merc car and there #2 driver are in that catagory, I would also rate Williams car and Pastor there too.
    I meant regarding performance, not reliability.


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    Great news if it's true and Felipe is re-signed for another year at least, he seems to have got his mojo back and he deserves to stay in F1 at Ferrari level, even if his results this year don't show it. Shame that the Italian media and public seem to have given up on him, they're all just about Fernando, but maybe things will change now that he's scoring points again. And the pitlane wouldn't be the same without the Felipe and Rob double-act, they make a lovely couple!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisepie View Post
    Great news if it's true and Felipe is re-signed for another year at least, he seems to have got his mojo back and he deserves to stay in F1 at Ferrari level, even if his results this year don't show it. Shame that the Italian media and public seem to have given up on him, they're all just about Fernando, but maybe things will change now that he's scoring points again. And the pitlane wouldn't be the same without the Felipe and Rob double-act, they make a lovely couple!
    Media and public usually focus on the main driver in the team since they are the one who often comes up when we talk about the title fight and all. I'm sure many talked a lot about Massa when he was fighting for the title, and also when he was recovering from his accident.

    Point is, people only talk when there's something to be talked about. Apart from Massa's end of contract this year, there really isn't much for the media to talk about regarding Massa. And I don't think its such a bad thing either.

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    35 races without a podium finish.
    Most in Ferrari history??
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    I don't know, is it?

    Try Wikipedia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F430 View Post
    35 races without a podium finish.

    ouch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red passion View Post
    I would still like to see it Sha1
    Sent you a PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    Media and public usually focus on the main driver in the team since they are the one who often comes up when we talk about the title fight and all. I'm sure many talked a lot about Massa when he was fighting for the title, and also when he was recovering from his accident.

    Point is, people only talk when there's something to be talked about. Apart from Massa's end of contract this year, there really isn't much for the media to talk about regarding Massa. And I don't think its such a bad thing either.
    I agree to a point but we all know what the Italian media are like and they have slagged off the team and in particular Felipe for the past few years, along with most other international media, some of it justified. That Felipe hasn't waivered from doing his best for the team and himself shows his dedication to the cause even if all the credit is directed at Fernando, but to keep saying he needs to be replaced is shortsighted when it's mainly the car that has been at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisepie View Post
    I agree to a point but we all know what the Italian media are like and they have slagged off the team and in particular Felipe for the past few years, along with most other international media, some of it justified. That Felipe hasn't waivered from doing his best for the team and himself shows his dedication to the cause even if all the credit is directed at Fernando, but to keep saying he needs to be replaced is shortsighted when it's mainly the car that has been at fault.
    Yeah of course, I don't mean to say its ok to slag off Massa. That's not right at all. I can see why if people are not talking about Massa that much for the reasons I mentioned above. And that's probably a good thing too because as you said, nothing good is being said of Massa when they talk about Massa anyway so its probably best that the media doesn't say anything at all.

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    Montezemolo nearing Massa decision
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    September 27, 2012 « Brawn all but admits Hamilton interest

    Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo says it will take "a few more days" to reach a decision over Felipe Massa's future.

    Massa's recent performances have increased speculation that he will stay with Ferrari beyond the end of his current contract, having looked set to leave following a poor start to the season. With his contract running out at the end of this year, Massa recently admitted he would like to know what his future holds but Montezemolo said he wanted to see Massa maintain his recent form having finished fifth in Belgium, fourth in Italy and recovered to eighth in Singapore.

    "I hope we keep up the performances we had since Spa," Montezemolo told a press conference at the Paris motor show. "[I hope] following Singapore's results we come up with a similar performance in Japan."

    Having seen a new rear wing tested unsuccessfully in Singapore, Montezemolo added that any further updates need to be immediately effective.

    "We need to improve the car, ensuring that any innovations we add to the car's design actually pay off on the track."

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    The pressure is getting to me.
    I wonder how Felipe is feeling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Giallo 550 View Post
    I meant regarding performance, not reliability.
    Performance is how we got to be in 1st place, the car and driver. We did what we had to do, performance wise or we'd be out of 1st. Reliability wise, judging by the other teams with hydraulic , altenator. gearbox braking problems [ Merc needs BREMBO] were also running with two pretty reliable Ferraris, DNF wise for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racingbradley View Post
    The pressure is getting to me.
    I wonder how Felipe is feeling.
    He obviously already knows what's what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Montezemolo nearing Massa decision
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    September 27, 2012 « Brawn all but admits Hamilton interest

    Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo says it will take "a few more days" to reach a decision over Felipe Massa's future.

    Massa's recent performances have increased speculation that he will stay with Ferrari beyond the end of his current contract, having looked set to leave following a poor start to the season. With his contract running out at the end of this year, Massa recently admitted he would like to know what his future holds but Montezemolo said he wanted to see Massa maintain his recent form having finished fifth in Belgium, fourth in Italy and recovered to eighth in Singapore.

    "I hope we keep up the performances we had since Spa," Montezemolo told a press conference at the Paris motor show. "[I hope] following Singapore's results we come up with a similar performance in Japan."

    Having seen a new rear wing tested unsuccessfully in Singapore, Montezemolo added that any further updates need to be immediately effective.

    "We need to improve the car, ensuring that any innovations we add to the car's design actually pay off on the track."

    http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ory/90083.html
    Before Suzuka if not Yeong Nam. I am quite sure. It shall be announced.

    Felipe has done very well from SPA and a big show in Spore from the back of the field.

    Alonso is backing him, Massa's last few races spoke volumes. I am quite sure he will get the seat for 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F430 View Post
    35 races without a podium finish.
    Most in Ferrari history??
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    The F150 Italia was over driven by Alonso. Not many would have made a podium with that red car.

    So you can pretty much discount all last years races to be fair.

    So 35 isnt really 35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    Yeah of course, I don't mean to say its ok to slag off Massa. That's not right at all. I can see why if people are not talking about Massa that much for the reasons I mentioned above. And that's probably a good thing too because as you said, nothing good is being said of Massa when they talk about Massa anyway so its probably best that the media doesn't say anything at all.
    Point taken, although it would be nice to see some credit given to Felipe for his recent races rather than just implying it still isn't enough for him to be a Ferrari driver in 2013. He needs our support and I am sure he's fully aware of what's at stake, and this waiting game is doing my head in, let alone what Felipe must be experiencing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brembo man View Post
    Performance is how we got to be in 1st place, the car and driver. We did what we had to do, performance wise or we'd be out of 1st. Reliability wise, judging by the other teams with hydraulic , altenator. gearbox braking problems [ Merc needs BREMBO] were also running with two pretty reliable Ferraris, DNF wise for sure.
    I was referring to the on-track performance of the car, meaning power and handling, not reliability. You can have a high-performance car with low reliability. Just look at Hamilton's McLaren or Vettel's RB. The combination of Alonso, the F2012's remarkable reliability, and our opponents' lack of reliability is the reason why Alonso is leading the championship. I don't think anyone here would deny that SF has the slowest car out of the top three teams in contention.


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    Massa will stay next year. It is too much of a gamble to bring in someone new before 2014 when the new rules kick in. I'm hoping to see him racing up front in the remaining races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F430 View Post
    35 races without a podium finish.
    Most in Ferrari history??
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    Maybe he should not have moved for Alonso at Monza then.
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    It doesn't just come down to what happens on track, though. Yes obviously that's a huge part of it and we all want him to get podiums, but there are other factors that Ferrari are going to be considering too - like Massimo said in the latest video that Felipe's very good on the technical/development side. Not to mention that Alonso gets along with him and he's completely integrated into the team...

    Here endeth my latest Massa propaganda post
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    If Massa gets a new contract it has absolutely nothing to do with what happends on the track. If Alonso prefer Massa so be it. That is more what keeps him in Ferrari. His Results? What results?

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    Felipe «Il rinnovo è molto vicino»
    MOLTO PRESTO - «Quando non c'è ancora nulla di firmato non ci sono certezze, ma non credo che ci vorrà ancora molto per avere una visione chiara della situazione. Ora penso solo a continuare in Formula 1 come pilota professionista, con il potenziale per vincere delle gare. E le possibilità che questo accada sono molto buone», ha concluso il brasiliano.

    VERY SOON - "When there is nothing signed yet there are no guarantees, but I do not think it will take much to get a clear view of the situation. Now I just think to continue in Formula 1 as a professional driver, with the potential to win races. And the chances of that happening are very good, "concluded the Brazilian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    The F150 Italia was over driven by Alonso. Not many would have made a podium with that red car.

    So you can pretty much discount all last years races to be fair.

    So 35 isnt really 35
    BLAH HAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suzie View Post
    It doesn't just come down to what happens on track, though. Yes obviously that's a huge part of it and we all want him to get podiums, but there are other factors that Ferrari are going to be considering too - like Massimo said in the latest video that Felipe's very good on the technical/development side. Not to mention that Alonso gets along with him and he's completely integrated into the team...

    Here endeth my latest Massa propaganda post

    It's no propaganda though, but simply the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curbs View Post
    If Massa gets a new contract it has absolutely nothing to do with what happends on the track. If Alonso prefer Massa so be it. That is more what keeps him in Ferrari. His Results? What results?
    I thought we were on his case because he brought nothing to the team, but if Alonso wants it then so be it? So if Massa is signed and does not do well next year, it will be Alonso's fault, no?

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    he is coming back to his good days of driving, as a ferrari and massa fan, i dream of having a season with felipe driving the ferrari like he did in 2008, we then would be having 2 championships home!

    thats the felipe saga, call it an opera or what have you, everythin about felipe massa is like bipolar!!!!


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    According to f1 direct Massa signed for another year at Ferrari!

    http://www.f1-direct.com/formule1-fe...?info-f1=13159

    Selon une source proche de la Scuderia Ferrari, Felipe Massa aurait déjà resigné son contrat et il ne resterait plus qu'à officialiser l'ensemble.

    Cette information de dernière minute nous indique également que le contrat ne serait que d'une année.

    Ce renouvellement fait suite à des courses plutôt intéressante orchestrée par le vice-champion du monde 2008, espérons tout de même que son retour en forme ne soit pas seulement due à l'espoir de rester avec les rouges pour une saison de plus.

    Affaire à suivre de très près donc ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giallo 550 View Post
    I was referring to the on-track performance of the car, meaning power and handling, not reliability. Just look at Hamilton's McLaren or Vettel's RB. The combination of Alonso, the F2012's remarkable reliability, and our opponents' lack of reliability is the reason why Alonso is leading the championship. I don't think anyone here would deny that SF has the slowest car out of the top three teams in contention.
    I agree with you, F2012 has remarkable reliability, your right, just look at McLaren and RB. I just believe we ain't all that slow performance wise, Alonso gets from anywhere to the podium. 5th pos. is like pole to him and his wheels ! Massa also came up front, in the top 10 from way way back. That takes performance , not just the other guys laclk of reliability and bad luck, which Massa had his share of this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brembo man View Post
    I agree with you, F2012 has remarkable reliability, your right, just look at McLaren and RB. I just believe we ain't all that slow performance wise, Alonso gets from anywhere to the podium. 5th pos. is like pole to him and his wheels ! Massa also came up front, in the top 10 from way way back. That takes performance , not just the other guys laclk of reliability and bad luck, which Massa had his share of this year.
    No argument from me!


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