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    I share Greig's opinion about this forum at times.

    It comes down what you feel is the roll of a fan.

    For me its accepting and trusting the decisions of all our team from the top to the bottom, yes we may "question" from time to time the decisions they make, but for me those questionable decisions are not half as annoying as the the many out right rude comments that are made here.

    We have all shades of personality in here and all levels of knowledge about the cars, the stats, drivers and team members contributions.

    Those who do irritate me most are those who show no grasp of the fundamentals of this sport, but expect the team to deliver , "Instant gratification ", those who demand instant fixes to our cars and drivers.

    Fans in my opinion should want to learn as much as they can about the sport and its people, especially those within the team. So that they will understand better some of the comments and decisions made by the team and our more knowledgeable fans.

    And as a fan we should learn its not what we say sometimes its how we say it., yes make your point but not as a Troll or a flame or with abuse.

    I know its off topic but had to get it off my chest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    I share Greig's opinion about this forum at times.

    It comes down what you feel is the roll of a fan.

    For me its accepting and trusting the decisions of all our team from the top to the bottom, yes we may "question" from time to time the decisions they make, but for me those questionable decisions are not half as annoying as the the many out right rude comments that are made here.

    We have all shades of personality in here and all levels of knowledge about the cars, the stats, drivers and team members contributions.

    Those who do irritate me most are those who show no grasp of the fundamentals of this sport, but expect the team to deliver , "Instant gratification ", those who demand instant fixes to our cars and drivers.

    Fans in my opinion should want to learn as much as they can about the sport and its people, especially those within the team. So that they will understand better some of the comments and decisions made by the team and our more knowledgeable fans.

    And as a fan we should learn its not what we say sometimes its how we say it., yes make your point but not as a Troll or a flame or with abuse.

    I know its off topic but had to get it off my chest

    Be a good fan
    very well said, and beat me to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    I share Greig's opinion about this forum at times.

    It comes down what you feel is the roll of a fan.

    For me its accepting and trusting the decisions of all our team from the top to the bottom, yes we may "question" from time to time the decisions they make, but for me those questionable decisions are not half as annoying as the the many out right rude comments that are made here.

    We have all shades of personality in here and all levels of knowledge about the cars, the stats, drivers and team members contributions.

    Those who do irritate me most are those who show no grasp of the fundamentals of this sport, but expect the team to deliver , "Instant gratification ", those who demand instant fixes to our cars and drivers.

    Fans in my opinion should want to learn as much as they can about the sport and its people, especially those within the team. So that they will understand better some of the comments and decisions made by the team and our more knowledgeable fans.

    And as a fan we should learn its not what we say sometimes its how we say it., yes make your point but not as a Troll or a flame or with abuse.

    I know its off topic but had to get it off my chest

    Be a good fan
    Well said

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    I'm not too sad that mclaren nabbed Perez. If we have to replace Massa with Perez then we're only moving sideways and maybe backwards judging by last race. I see Perez as a driver who can manage tires - he's got a lot of speed on fresh tires at the end of a race. At this point, we need Massa to come around and if he does so now as the car develops then there is a good chance we'll see Massa of old in next years car. We don't have to gamble on an unproven driver for next year, let Mclaren do that. Perez could be the next Heikki for all we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Bob View Post
    I'm not too sad that mclaren nabbed Perez. If we have to replace Massa with Perez then we're only moving sideways and maybe backwards judging by last race. I see Perez as a driver who can manage tires - he's got a lot of speed on fresh tires at the end of a race. At this point, we need Massa to come around and if he does so now as the car develops then there is a good chance we'll see Massa of old in next years car. We don't have to gamble on an unproven driver for next year, let Mclaren do that. Perez could be the next Heikki for all we know.
    The role of a young drivers like Perez or Hulkenberg will be completely different from Massa's role. So I don't think you can compare them directly. No doubt Massa is the more experience driver so in terms of results, I have no doubt Massa will perform better, NOW.

    The whole discussion about these young drivers is about the future. Who will take Alonso's place when Alonso retires? When should we have this new driver in the team to prepare him for the role he will have to fill? These are the questions asked when discussed about these young driver. No one is expecting them to suddenly win titles for Ferrari now, we have Alonso for that until 2016 at the very least. But who will be the right driver to fill Alonso's shoe? I think this is the question worth thinking about right now.

    Ferrari can't just go knocking on the door of any driver and expect them to join us at any time, so there will come a time where we need to secure the right talent. Who will this right talent be? Ultimately the team will decide. Perez is certainly a strong candidate, although I would agree that he may not be the only candidate.

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    They obviously weren't too fussed about getting a younger driver when they were talking to Mark Webber. He's over 40 if he's a day
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    Well, Luca DM did speak of Vettel as a potential young driver he would love to see in Ferrari some day (maybe just mind games, who knows ). But looking at his age, I think Red Bull can say they already have a young talent to race for them into the foreseeable future. Its up to them to keep Vettel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    The role of a young drivers like Perez or Hulkenberg will be completely different from Massa's role. So I don't think you can compare them directly. No doubt Massa is the more experience driver so in terms of results, I have no doubt Massa will perform better, NOW.

    The whole discussion about these young drivers is about the future. Who will take Alonso's place when Alonso retires? When should we have this new driver in the team to prepare him for the role he will have to fill? These are the questions asked when discussed about these young driver. No one is expecting them to suddenly win titles for Ferrari now, we have Alonso for that until 2016 at the very least. But who will be the right driver to fill Alonso's shoe? I think this is the question worth thinking about right now.

    Ferrari can't just go knocking on the door of any driver and expect them to join us at any time, so there will come a time where we need to secure the right talent. Who will this right talent be? Ultimately the team will decide. Perez is certainly a strong candidate, although I would agree that he may not be the only candidate.

    Michael wasn't young when he joined, neither was Alonso, Rubens or Irvine. As we've seen with Hamilton, there are no guarantees that a young driver brought into a team will always remain with that team. Why do they need Sergio now if Massa is as good or better? Any driver, young or old, is in the team to gain points for the team. If we can get a driver that is better than Massa then bring him in. At this point, why bring in an inexperienced rookie when we need someone to get points and support our no.1 driver?

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    Ferrari is a team with a clear no.1 and no.2 whereas teams like Lotus, McLaren have more equal drivers.

    So what is the advantage to a driver who is not a rookie to come to Ferrari, play 2nd fiddle to FA and never be allowed win a race if FA is near you on the track.

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