2012 Indian GP: Race Thread

[Tifoso84]

Alonso: "I don’t know if this was my best performance of the season, as it’s always difficult to make that sort of call. I am particularly keen on the one in Valencia or at Monza, but this one is definitely up there: I pushed from start to finish, maybe taking some more risks in overtaking compared to previous races."

The top 3 best Alonso performances this year in my opinion are:

1. European GP (from 11th position to 1st, that was just legendary)

2. Indian GP (took out the maximum from the car, fought like a lion and against all odds achieved a fantastic 2nd place)

3. German GP (defended his 1st place incredibly well throughout the race and won, like a boss)

Gooo Fernando!!! Forza Ferrari!!!

[Ken]

Stefano Domenicali: ...but this race should not leave those who are ahead in a calm and relaxed mood."

I hope it does leave those who are ahead of us in a calm and relaxed mood. Let them relax. The last thing we want is them to take us seriously by putting even more effort into developing their car. Let them be calm and relaxed. That'd be perfect if they would underestimate us. I would even be willing to sing a lullaby to Adrian Newey just so that he would be completely relaxed and take a little nap, while our guys in Maranello would be working on new updates 24/7.


Sleep Adrian, sleep...

You can sing ??

You get offers of a ride in a Ferrari ??

Is there no end to your talents ??

[Nova]

Cheating, not cheating, whatever..the thing is, at the start of the season we were absolutely nowhere.
It may seem at times that Ferrari is just sitting around doing nothing, but I digress..thruout the season they have def been
working hard. Today we fought thru to take a clean 2nd 9 secs behind the RB. Even last race we were further behind. So while Im not
happy with 2nd, Id feel a heck of a lot worse if we finished 20 secs behind. We still got a chance to win this thing. Never give up!

[stefa]

When Ferrari dominated, they all said it was because we cheated, FIA helped us yada yada, seems the circle is now complete.

We are not being cheated, we are just not doing a good enough job.

Exactly. Competition is always like that to the one who is in front. They must be cheating stories. But they are not. They are for the time being simply the best one in in interpretation the rules, and making the best out of them!

[Tifoso84]

You can sing ??

You get offers of a ride in a Ferrari ??

Is there no end to your talents ??

Good one!
Yeah, I'm multi-talented
No, actually I can't sing, but I would try my best in order to make Newey sleep for a while.

Anything for Ferrari...

[stefa]

What an amazing ride today FA has showed! Fantastic. He is really most complete and best driver on the grid. Just imagine how it would be for the competition if he is to drive RD? Terrifying!

[anuragiyer8989]

for me FA is a 5 time WDC including 2010 and 2012!

[Kyss4k]

Very, very good race from both our guys. Thank you for a nice entertainment :) Alonso did a fantastic job overtaking 3 guys on track (not thanks to pit stops) and juicing the car to Red Bull's pace. Felipe did great as well, considering he had to save fuel for a good part of the race. And his thinking about the KERS situation was just brilliant (well, it's easy to figure it out infront of TV, but behind the wheel of one of those monsters, I imagine you have to have really calm mind, to figure out those "little" tricks in the heat of the battle) and keeping Kimi behind him for litterally the whole race, superb.

But yeah, Vettel was lucky for little too long in the second half of the season, it would be nice to throw some bad luck magic dust on him or his car...

[varun]

Great drive from Alonso..if he had passed webber earlier then maybe he could even have attacked Vettel??
btw the lap1 where we were going to overtake button and hamilton that was great(although it did not work there)
also We have great straight line speed.(even without DRS!)
Now the point is how we can cancel that 13 points..??

[stefa]

Great drive from Alonso..if he had passed webber earlier then maybe he could even have attacked Vettel??
btw the lap1 where we were going to overtake button and hamilton that was great(although it did not work there)
also We have great straight line speed.(even without DRS!)
Now the point is how we can cancel that 13 points..??

First Ferrari needs to improve qualifying. In remaining races FA needs to start lowest from 2nd row. Second, FA needs to win once and SV to DNF. With that FA will regain lead with 12 points, and with that advantage in last two races anything is possible. With that scenario RB will be more nervous than Ferrari, and FA will have like one hand on his 3rd WDC.

[brembo man]

I truly believe one pole pos. race will do it for Alonso. We need Vettel in traffic, alongside anyone of the maniacs will do the trick, a DNF safe crash to put his rocketship out of commission. In our case it's our driver that's the best on the track, in Red Bull's case it's there car. What Alonso has acccomplished this year is beond a doubt amazin!!! That zero point race,

[F2002]

We must admit that Vettel himself is driving really well - yes the car is good, but he has been absolutely flawless, especially in the latter races.

[Dino]

We must admit that Vettel himself is driving really well - yes the car is good, but he has been absolutely flawless, especially in the latter races.

True,and so is Weber.
He was a sitting duck when Alonso overtook him.
Alonso used all the Kers [80 bhp] + DRS and Weber could not even defend.
Yet he kept Lewis from getting close and take his 3rd.place.

[grinchy]

Excellent race today by Fernando, yes vettel is dominant at the mo but Fernando is the star of the show. The man is just awesome!

[stefa]

I truly believe one pole pos. race will do it for Alonso. We need Vettel in traffic, alongside anyone of the maniacs will do the trick, a DNF safe crash to put his rocketship out of commission. In our case it's our driver that's the best on the track, in Red Bull's case it's there car. What Alonso has acccomplished this year is beond a doubt amazin!!! That zero point race,

To me more pain are those thrown away pints in Canada...

[Kyss4k]

To me more pain are those thrown away pints in Canada...

What hurts most, is certain podium finishes in Spa and Suzuka which were both trashed right in the first corner... Without those two he would still have had quite healthy lead over Vettel now. (ok, so what I did there is that I just agreed with brembo man ... oh well, nevermind)

[Ferrari Man]

What hurts most, is certain podium finishes in Spa and Suzuka which were both trashed right in the first corner... Without those two he would still have had quite healthy lead over Vettel now.

Very true... But there is also the fact that Vettel lost a guaranteed 25 points in Valencia that went to Alonso so all in all idont think we would have a much of a lead over vettel if alonso finished spa and suzuka and vettel won valencia...

[Red passion]

To me more pain are those thrown away pints in Canada...

remind me what happened in Canada again.

[grinchy]

[QUOTE=Ferrari Man;756888]Very true... But there is also the fact that Vettel lost a guaranteed 25 points in Valencia that went to Alonso so all in all idont think we would have a much of a lead over vettel if alonso finished spa and suzuka and vettel won valencia...[/QUOTE
Like murray Walker used to say if is f1 backwards & anything can happen in f1 and usually does!

[Alonsomaniac]

In a way Vettel is fighting windmills. He simply can't win this. The reaction of the crowd in front of the podium made that clear to me. He may have the lead now and he even may win the championship, but every living soul will see Fernando Alonso as the best driver of the season by far and Vettel as the guy who won because he had the best car...as if the title went to one guy while another is the true Champion...
I know that his name will be in the books then, but I wonder: how will it feel inside...knowing you won but not because you were the best..

[Suzie]

but I wonder: how will it feel inside...knowing you won but not because you were the best..

Ask Lewis.

[Sha1]

Ask Lewis.

Harsh.

[Tifoso84]

We must admit that Vettel himself is driving really well - yes the car is good, but he has been absolutely flawless, especially in the latter races.

It's easy to drive well when you have the fastest car. He's a good driver, without a doubt, but he certainly shouldn't be a 2 times WC, let alone 3 times. If you look at it really closely, then you'll see that Vettel hasn't really done anything special to win all those WDCs. Vettel has only one tactic...start from pole, increase lead to 20-30 seconds and safely cruise to finish. And if he doesn't have the fastest car to do that, then he gets frustrated and starts making stupid mistakes. There is no way anyone can compare Vettel to Fernando for example. Fernando has many different tactics and he could win even if he was starting from last place. Vettel is a good driver who has just been lucky enough to enjoy driving Newey's rocketships. All those wins have fallen into his lap without him having to do anything special to get them.

[Hermann]

Vettel has only one tactic...start from pole, increase lead to 20-30 seconds and safely cruise to finish

[F2002]

It's easy to drive well when you have the fastest car. He's a good driver, without a doubt, but he certainly shouldn't be a 2 times WC, let alone 3 times. If you look at it really closely, then you'll see that Vettel hasn't really done anything special to win all those WDCs. Vettel has only one tactic...start from pole, increase lead to 20-30 seconds and safely cruise to finish. And if he doesn't have the fastest car to do that, then he gets frustrated and starts making stupid mistakes. There is no way anyone can compare Vettel to Fernando for example. Fernando has many different tactics and he could win even if he was starting from last place. Vettel is a good driver who has just been lucky enough to enjoy driving Newey's rocketships. All those wins have fallen into his lap without him having to do anything special to get them.

You know, I used to think in exactly the same way until I started going to the races.

It's not as easy as it looks on television...

[Effone]

Vettel is overdue for an DNF imo.

I have total faith and confidence in Alonso

(also I think Newey is up to his 'bypassing the rules' tricks again, but thats only my opinion)

[Tifoso84]

You know, I used to think in exactly the same way until I started going to the races.

It's not as easy as it looks on television...

Well it's certainly a lot more easier for him than for all the other drivers out there. If you have a car that's half a second faster than all the other cars, then I'd say it's pretty easy to pick up wins all the time. Of course driving an F1 car is not easy, I know that, but I'm sure that any driver from current top 6 would win WDCs just as easily as Vettel has if they would have such fast cars at their disposal. A good example is Jenson Button, not a particularly great driver, and yet he completely dominated in 2009. Why? Because he had a far superior car than everybody else that year. It's the same story with Vettel...just a decent driver in a super machine.

[Nova]

In a way Vettel is fighting windmills. He simply can't win this. The reaction of the crowd in front of the podium made that clear to me. He may have the lead now and he even may win the championship, but every living soul will see Fernando Alonso as the best driver of the season by far and Vettel as the guy who won because he had the best car...as if the title went to one guy while another is the true Champion...
I know that his name will be in the books then, but I wonder: how will it feel inside...knowing you won but not because you were the best..

He didnt win it yet..Go Ferrari!

[gjoko-mkd]

one race with 1-2 for Ferari,and situation will be very different(or 1- Alonso,2-anybody else except Vetel)

[varun]

I truly believe one pole pos. race will do it for Alonso. We need Vettel in traffic, alongside anyone of the maniacs will do the trick, a DNF safe crash to put his rocketship out of commission. In our case it's our driver that's the best on the track, in Red Bull's case it's there car. What Alonso has acccomplished this year is beond a doubt amazin!!! That zero point race,

Yes 1 pole position is a must ..and DNF for vettel would be welcome!!
but Red bull are strong in Abu Dhabi..but vettel should not win there...and if not alonso then anyone is our friend..Webber,Hamilton,Massa or even Button!!
Any news about any UPGRADES for abu dhabi??
i mean WORKING UPGRADES??