2012 Indian GP: Race Thread

[bluesilhouettes]

Anyway, they are using really low height floor. That's why his car keeps sucking the track.
He's never spun this season beacause his car has great DF.

[Rob]

Natalie Pinkham ‏@NataliePinkham
Despite Vett's win today Alonso just told me he is even more confident of winning champ now

[Rob]

yet he still lost points to vettel. such a criminal waste of talent.

[mugdoc]

look at this pics guys!! im very suspicious about redbull ride height, are they legal?

[Grillo]

Marc Gené said they should check their ride height after the race.

Hopefully they find something illegal. :D

[Rob]

Marc Gené said they should check their ride height after the race.

Hopefully they find something illegal. :D

[zike]

Marc Gené said they should check their ride height after the race.

Hopefully they find something illegal. :D

I can not find anything offical

[Hermann]

Did Crapitz just say that fingerboy had to be pushed into the pitlane by Webber, with Webber crushing the nose of his car by that?

[wisepie]

Bravo Fernando, couldn't have asked for more, incredible drive, and give Felipe a break, at least he held off Kimi despite having fuel issues. Maybe he had to hold station behind the Mclarens otherwise he wouldn't have made it to the end. Great job, boys, and all is certainly still to play for.

[Rob]

Vettel isnt a great, never will.

[Rob]

As has just been said and i think i said yesterday. RBR goes for shorter gear ratios to get off line quicker and out of the corners. Just gives them the advantage they loose for not being fast. If Fernando didnt get held up fighting the Mclarens think be different race. But its all good in hindsight.

[Hornet]

Did Crapitz just say that fingerboy had to be pushed into the pitlane by Webber, with Webber crushing the nose of his car by that?

yeah, he said Vettel stopped at the wrong place. With his engine turned off, he needed Webber to push him

[ForzaJay]

look at this pics guys!! im very suspicious about redbull ride height, are they legal?

Did anyone also notice the flexing on the RB front wing? The ends were almost touching the ground like last season, whereas our front wing stays pretty much level. I don't know how RB manage to do this and pass the FIA load test.

[Fer12]

Vettel Alonso
TOTAL 1:31:10.744 1:31:20.181 -9.437 -9.437 36 24
11 1- Stint 60 Laps () 60 Laps () 0 - - -
111 Time 1 1:31:10.744 1:31:20.181 -9.437 - - -
112 Av. Lap Time 1 1:31.179 1:31.336 -0.157 - - -
112 Seg FL 1:28.723 1:28.630 +0.093 - - -
2 Av. lap time 1:31.179 1:31.336 -0.157 - - -
3 Fast lap 1:28.723 1:28.630 +0.093 - - -
4 Slow lap 1:47.679 1:48.070 -0.391 - - -
5 lap lead 59 0 +59 - - -
6 Pits 1 1 +0 - - -
7 Pit laps time 3:20.487 3:21.867 -1.380 - - -
8 Pits time 0:20.707 0:20.800 -0.093 -

[Rob]

Did anyone also notice the flexing on the RB front wing? The ends were almost touching the ground like last season, whereas our front wing stays pretty much level. I don't know how RB manage to do this and pass the FIA load test.

have been for couple of races now.

[Hornet]

Did anyone also notice the flexing on the RB front wing? The ends were almost touching the ground like last season, whereas our front wing stays pretty much level. I don't know how RB manage to do this and pass the FIA load test.

Red Bull as always, bending the rules, and bending their cars.

Last year in Monza we saw on Webber's car, the skid marks on the plank shows that the T-tray have to be flexing to get those abnormal pattern. Won't surprise me if its still flexing now.

[theodorus8864]

Vettel isnt a great, never will.

I have always wondered if Vettel being put in an inferior car, will he be able to extract everything out of both cars and himself and yet still be among top 3.

[Rob]

I have always wondered if Vettel being put in an inferior car, will he be able to extract everything out of both cars and himself and yet still be among top 3.

just look at early this year when the car wasnt upto his liking.

[Hornet]

just look at early this year when the car wasnt upto his liking.

That's a very good point. When the Red Bull was still trying to develop their exhaust (they didn't start with the current ramp design), Vettel was struggling and at times get beaten by Webber too. Webber was ahead of Vettel in the WDC for awhile. Once Adrian Newey make his magic work, he's now winning again. Its as if he needed that special design from Newey to finally perform well.

[Rob]

That's a very good point. When the Red Bull was still trying to develop their exhaust (they didn't start with the current ramp design), Vettel was struggling and at times get beaten by Webber too. Webber was ahead of Vettel in the WDC for awhile. Once Adrian Newey make his magic work, he's now winning again. Its as if he needed that special design from Newey to finally perform well.

He has to have the rear end glued to the track, that why he was so strong last year with the EBD, and RBR have had to work to try and claw that back for SV. As Webber had him at the start when the car was like normal car, but last year Webber coulnt touch him, and look what has happened again now RBR have got the rear near to last years car.

[Nova]

The front of the RB, noone has ever made interest in it, especially the little scoop they have at the step.
I think that it is in a teams best interest to bend the rules as much as they can. Ferrari may have to bend a bit more.
On RB passing scrutinering, they do, simple as that. If the stewards found something it wouldnt pass, would it?

[Greig]

Massa's DRS trick on Kimi was awesome

[Fiondella]

This makes for a mouth watering showdown between 2 teams and 2 drivers we bottled the last time when it was this close. Easier chasing than it is leading when it's this close!

[Dino]

Marc Gené said they should check their ride height after the race.

Hopefully they find something illegal. :D

They shall find it's ok.
It's adjustable from the cockpit?

[eddie]

Red bulls with adjustable floors? Those sparks were like fire works... But didn't see them afterwards

Hope they find something illegal there.

Great drive from both our pilots. Too bad Massa had fuel issues...

[bobi_ve]

For Alonso condition for winning 2012 WDC title means getting 23 points(or more) over Vettel in just last two races.
Why??? Because now the difference is 13 and at next race in Abu Dhabi in the best case 100 GIGA% sure will be + new 10 points because of 1-2 win for RBR (of course 1st VET,2nd WEB).

So it would be need in USA and Brasil Alonso to win in both races and Vettel finish one time 3rd position or worse and other 4th position or worse.

[FA fan]

Vettel isnt a great, never will.

Very true! I think if I'm not mistaken he has never won a race starting from 4th or worst,is that correct?

[FFFerrari]

Bravo Fernando, couldn't have asked for more, incredible drive, and give Felipe a break, at least he held off Kimi despite having fuel issues. Maybe he had to hold station behind the Mclarens otherwise he wouldn't have made it to the end. Great job, boys, and all is certainly still to play for.

Even a blind bat could see that the Lotus was capping on topspeed halfway on the back straight, they couldn't pass anyone. Felipe had the same topspeed as Kimi WITHOUT DRS. Only thing he had to do is make sure that the fuel lasted, that is why he was so slow compared to Fernando.

Fernando on the other hand had excellent race and really did everything possible from his starting position.

[rico]

A repeat of the last year Abu-Dhabi result would be great

[Tifoso84]

I still don't understand how Red Cow's floor panel scraping problem disappeared so quickly?
The only explanation is that they do have somekind of a button inside their cars which enables them to regulate ride height. Problems like what Vettel had don't just magically disappear. I'm really starting to question FIA's competence.
And that front wing was moving and flapping up'n'down like crazy. How the hell FIA guys don't notice that and do something about it, I'll never know!
It's obvious that there's something suspicious about Red Cow's car.

For how long are they gonna get away with it?!
Come on FIA wake up and smell the coffee!