The fairy dust for fernando is starting to fall is there a crack in red bulls armour

[paolo lalli]

What an opportunity nando has been given go the fairy dust the penalty to seb is like a get out of gail free card lets face it the quali was average this is all about closing the gap and pouncing its now or never go the reds this is the business end

[Tifosi]

Is this a telegram from behind enemy lines stop it certainly reads like one stop lets' hope they stop

[Hermann]

Can anyone translate the above postings to plain english for me please?

[gjoko-mkd]

for me too

[theforce]

What's the reason for Seb choosing to start from pit lane instead of the grid? Avoiding first corner crash or something with tyre choice?

[theforce]

CH: "As a result, the FIA has excluded Sebastian from qualifying and we will withdraw the car from Parc Ferme in order to investigate further. Therefore Sebastian will start from the pit lane for tomorrow’s race. We will need to make the most of Mark’s strong front-row grid position and Sebastian will have a busy evening ahead of him."

I guess since they are removing the car from Parc Ferme, they will have to start from the pit-lane.

[jocaranz]

not enough fuel to cheat the weight of the car

nowadays, only redbull does that

REAL cheaters

[Tifoso84]

Is this a telegram from behind enemy lines stop it certainly reads like one stop lets' hope they stop

What is this, a riddle contest? Your comment rhymes nicely but doesn't make much sense, neither does the first comment.

[Hornet]

What's the reason for Seb choosing to start from pit lane instead of the grid? Avoiding first corner crash or something with tyre choice?

Remember Ferrari complained about a special fuel cell in Red Bull's car, to which the FIA said Renault are allowed due to reliability issues. It seems that thing may have backfired. FIA only manage to get 850ml of fuel out of the car, but Renault believe that the extra fuel is actually still in the car, somewhere in the fuel cell.

So they took the car out of parc ferme to investigate what went wrong.

[Hamish]

Remember Ferrari complained about a special fuel cell in Red Bull's car, to which the FIA said Renault are allowed due to reliability issues. It seems that thing may have backfired. FIA only manage to get 850ml of fuel out of the car, but Renault believe that the extra fuel is actually still in the car, somewhere in the fuel cell.

So they took the car out of parc ferme to investigate what went wrong.

Please explain what the purpose of a secret tank would be. If the fuel is in the car, the weight of it is in the car. Why not just have the fuel in the main fuel tank along with the rest of it.

[Hornet]

Please explain what the purpose of a secret tank would be. If the fuel is in the car, the weight of it is in the car. Why not just have the fuel in the main fuel tank along with the rest of it.

The report says Red Bull have a system that can change the fluid levels in two tanks and Ferrari is asking about this, whether its legal or not.

The system may allow Red Bull to change their weight distribution by distributing the fuel between this 2 tanks. You are right the weight is still the same, but there is a difference where you put the weight. When you put more weight towards the front, or put more weight towards the back, it affects the car behavior.

[XXX132]

Can anyone translate the above postings to plain english for me please?

It's Vettel's turn to be having some bad luck now. He's been struggling a bit this round, more than of late and now found to be under fueled and is starting last.

FA has a rare chance to make up some points on him, as long as he can stay out of trouble starting from P6,

Fingers will need to prove he can't just win from pole. Hope we can continue to maximize our luck. All in all a far better proposition than after the end of quali.

[red power]

Go Nando make them pay for their stupidity. Cheats.

[Golfsmith]

If I read this posts it seems to me there's two sets of rules in FIA controlled F1 at the moment ,one for RB to do what they want and cheat the crap out of every body and another for the rest not to complain about the legality of RB's flexi wings/2 compartment tanks/rideheight/DDRS/blowing diffusers and the list go on,THE SHAME ON YOU FIA.The RB team can run quick to FIA and ban other stuff on other teams cars but nothing on there car if other teams ask about there legallity of there cheating reliability stuff

[theforce]

The report says Red Bull have a system that can change the fluid levels in two tanks and Ferrari is asking about this, whether its legal or not.

The system may allow Red Bull to change their weight distribution by distributing the fuel between this 2 tanks. You are right the weight is still the same, but there is a difference where you put the weight. When you put more weight towards the front, or put more weight towards the back, it affects the car behavior.

I remember reading that, "Ferrari neither confirmed nor denied the story, instead insisting that it is common for teams to ask the FIA for clarifications".

But worth knowing is that since the fuel tank is located behind the driver, how much room is there for a 2nd tank or to move the fuel around?

[Rob]

I remember reading that, "Ferrari neither confirmed nor denied the story, instead insisting that it is common for teams to ask the FIA for clarifications".

But worth knowing is that since the fuel tank is located behind the driver, how much room is there for a 2nd tank or to move the fuel around?

Its not fuel they move around its water, its on all Renault engines. They use it for "cooling". Ferrari and Merc asked if could use same system to cool engines but FIA rejected as we got good coolong already

Its not MaFIA anymore, its BullMaFIA or REDMaFIA now.

[Golfsmith]

Maybe the real MAFIA must scare the BullMaFIA for a change

[Hamish]

The report says Red Bull have a system that can change the fluid levels in two tanks and Ferrari is asking about this, whether its legal or not.

The system may allow Red Bull to change their weight distribution by distributing the fuel between this 2 tanks. You are right the weight is still the same, but there is a difference where you put the weight. When you put more weight towards the front, or put more weight towards the back, it affects the car behavior.

Many thanks for that explination. I was wondering what the fuss was about. Trust them to be untrustworthy