United States GP - Race Thread

[rico]

Can anyone please tell me, what kind of tyre compounds will Pirelli bring to Brazil?

They really screwed us over royally in Austin.

The same. Hard and medium

[Alonsomaniac]

Whatever happens in the future and although he is fast, I do not want to see that whining brat in a Ferrari, ever!

[Alonsomaniac]

Sorry, just had to speak out , for once.....

[FrankAlfa]

With all of the tricks built into the Red Bull Race Cars, both McLaren and to a lesser degree, Ferrari fought a good battle to gain valuable constructor's points. Hats off to Alonso and Massa!!!! Excellent drive from both of them. Now the shoe drops, Alonso finised some 39 seconds behind the two lead cars. Alonso lost 3 points today and unless Vettel does not finish the race in Brasil, Vettel has the Drivers Championship. That's it for now.

Ciao.

Forza Ferrari!!!!

[FerrariF60]

Sorry, just had to speak out , for once.....

no worries mate; I too feel the same about pettel and I'm sure
we're not the only ones
pettel is a crying baby when his "car" is not on pace

he nowhere near to what Alonso's attitude is and NEVER will be

[Kyss4k]

Sorry, just had to speak out , for once.....

Alonso used to be not so much different as I remember. He was one arogant kid And so I Vettel. What he needs is few hard years when he will have to fight and lose. Right until now he was only going up, but he will fall and it will make him to mature. Exactly what happened to Alonso.

[bonzo]

Even if we don't win the WDC, I'm still happy that we could at least take the fight to the last race and didn't let finger boy off the hook so easily. Now at least the whole Red Cow has something to think about and worry at least for another week.
After all the headlines like: "Vettel ready to land a knockout blow in Austin" on various F1 sites, it's absolutely fantastic that we managed to prove everyone wrong again.

[Tifoso84]

The same. Hard and medium

Oh geez, does that mean that we could suffer the same way in Brazil as well?

[flam147]

I am not backing what Ferrari have done, but what is the difference between 2nd and 3rd? The 1st is the one that counts and there is no way to finish first in the WCC, while the chance to win WDC is still alive, even tho the heart beat is really slow now...

Several million $ and pitlane position

[Dino]

Sorry, just had to speak out , for once.....

Normally i would totally agree with you but today he was right.
Vettel was desparately holding Lewis at around .800/.900sec. just before the DRS line.
At that gap lewis had tried a few times and could not pass.
Than Vettel came up to lap karthikeyan at the twisty part,but the HRT driver had no way of moving off line and Lewis was able to close right in for the DRS zone.He got closer than befor and made the pass.
Seb was complaining about having to overtake the HRT there.

Lewis raced brilliantly today but Vettel showed us he is a great fighter.
Being a Ferrari fan does'nt mean one should not appreciate a good rival!

[GamD]

Whatever happens in the future and although he is fast, I do not want to see that whining brat in a Ferrari, ever!

I bet a few people felt like that about few drivers at Ferrari. If he comes to Ferrari you being a Ferrari fan you would support him :)

[Tifoso84]

Whatever happens in the future and although he is fast, I do not want to see that whining brat in a Ferrari, ever!

I'm pretty sure that he's going to be a Ferrari driver sooner or later anyway. I don't like this whiny little spoiled brat either, but I used to think the same thing about Alonso when he was a Renault and Macca driver. I honestly despised Alonso and now I respect and love him very much as a Ferrari driver. So even though I hate Vettel's guts and can't stand the sight of him right now, then I think that if he ever should put on those red Ferrari overalls I could possibly change my mind about him as well. I mean seriously, how can you be Ferrari fan and hate one of the driver's? It's completely unthinkable in my opinion.

But as long as he's a Red Cow driver, he will always remain a disgusting little whiny spoiled brat!

[Brakefade]

I bet a few people felt like that about few drivers at Ferrari. If he comes to Ferrari you being a Ferrari fan you would support him :)

Yeah, but that was still pretty classless and childish.

[Bertie]

Can anyone please tell me, what kind of tyre compounds will Pirelli bring to Brazil?

They really screwed us over royally in Austin.

inters and wets

[Hornet]

Several million $ and pitlane position

Which Ferrari don't care about, if you look at what we did last season. Ferrari's ultimate goal is to win the title at all cost.

People need to get over Ferrari's team strategy. Ferrari has always and will always be about the team achievement which is the titles, which means that sacrifices need to be make sometimes.

[vae32]

Hey guy's, i missed the race because of work...but reading you guy's comments during race is not reassuring, but as i read on regarding massa's race pace gives me a tiny pit of hope for our car. There are big differences to the two cars, from the start of quali yesterday to the race today and the team's need to find out what the problem is before the next race. How is massa's race pace comparing with lwis and vettel's has anybody got any times comparison?, would be very interesting if massa is faster than both of them.

[ferrari4life]

Whatever happens in the future and although he is fast, I do not want to see that whining brat in a Ferrari, ever!

Dude we have been fans of Ferrari for a long time before Alonso came here. There was a time I said the same thing about Alonso but I would not trade him for any other driver right now.

[ferrari4life]

Glad I did not spend my afternoon watching the race.. sounds like the only way we are going to win anything is with a red bull failure. Kudos to McLaren for beating him fair and square. Really disapointed with ferrari at this point.

[sagi58]

Anyone noticed that Pettel didn't say anything about WCC haha.

Says enough!

Actually, he did! He said something along the lines of congratulations to the team for having sealed the Constructor's against Ferrari, who are second...

[dfunk257]

I remember when Fernando was driving for Renault and i didnt like him and used to say i never want him at Ferrari. But that all changed and thank God it did. I feel the same way with Seb except i dont hate him atm, yes hes a winger and needs 2 grow up abit but i still believe he is a class driver and would b great at Ferrari.

[Nova]

I dont get the 40 seconds adrift at the finish. We've been much closer all season...is it the tires?
Massa def quicker than FA today, so great for him to be running on all 8.
If he was allowed, he wouldve had him in a minute.
COngrasts to my team and drivers today, good race. Im not overly excited, I think its the 40 seconds.
If the tires are that far off in Brasil, well, we'll have to wait n see.
N whats up with Merc? Im sure Lewis may be a bit concerned.
1st time I have to say that I was rooting for Lewis.
N I cant really believe theres only 1 race left.

[anuragiyer8989]

I'm not doubting Felipe's driving skills, he did a fantastic job.
But, do u guys really think Alonso was slow?!
I mean right from Quali to race......WAS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH HIS SETUP?!
Going by the stats, he had to be way faster than Felipe, especially on the hard tires.....
If Felipe had overtaken Fernando, the gap would definitely not have been 40 secs....that was way too far......

[Golfsmith]

Hey guy's,what happened to our great race pace on race days,it's clear what ever was on Alonso's car did not work and what was on Massa's car worked for him,I hope for a beter race come Brazil,anaway congrats to the team for doing well.

[albert]

Massa was only quicker than Alonso in the first stint on softs. On hards they were even. Im almost disappointed that the agony of the inevitable is extended for another week. The agony of watching Alonso helpless pushing a mule around trying to do the impossible for months is painful, and I am looking forward to the end and forgetting this terrible car. Its really a miracle to still be in contention in the final race considering the car differences. Im also really worried about 2013.

[Hornet]

I dont get the 40 seconds adrift at the finish. We've been much closer all season...is it the tires?
Massa def quicker than FA today, so great for him to be running on all 8.
If he was allowed, he wouldve had him in a minute.
COngrasts to my team and drivers today, good race. Im not overly excited, I think its the 40 seconds.
If the tires are that far off in Brasil, well, we'll have to wait n see.
N whats up with Merc? Im sure Lewis may be a bit concerned.
1st time I have to say that I was rooting for Lewis.
N I cant really believe theres only 1 race left.

After the first and only round of pitstop Alonso was 30 seconds behind, and it ended with additional of 6-8 seconds. Macca and RB were faster than us, but roughly by that 6-8 seconds difference over 30 laps or so. Not that big.

We're losing a huge amount of time at the first stint. We just couldn't get the tires up to temperature. The softer the tires, the more narrow its operating temperature is so we need to really get right up to that precise point at the first stint when we always start with the options, and we lose a lot of heat before the race start. We just couldn't do that.

We're much more consistent in the 2nd stint because the harder tires have wider operating temperature, and we don't lose as much heat as the start. Once we get into the operating range, we were fine. Lewis and Vettel was driving their hearts out but the 30sec gap did not opened up that much.

If we can solve our tires temperature problem, I think we can challenge for win.

[medeni73]

There is no more time for solving anything, I dont think that any team will bring something new to Brasil, so we must hope that it rains or that alternators from Cows dont like Brasil's humidity :)

[anuragiyer8989]

Massa was only quicker than Alonso in the first stint on softs. On hards they were even. Im almost disappointed that the agony of the inevitable is extended for another week. The agony of watching Alonso helpless pushing a mule around trying to do the impossible for months is painful, and I am looking forward to the end and forgetting this terrible car. Its really a miracle to still be in contention in the final race considering the car differences. Im also really worried about 2013.

F2013 is gonna be as radical as F2012....so u r right in being worried.....I'm not hoping anything.....unless of course, there's a management change!

[albert]

After the first and only round of pitstop Alonso was 30 seconds behind, and it ended with additional of 6-8 seconds. Macca and RB were faster than us, but roughly by that 6-8 seconds difference over 30 laps or so. Not that big.
.

Unfortunately races are not run over 30 laps on the tyre compound you prefer. To be competitive you need a car that works with both sets of tyres, and we dont have that just as we didnt last year when we had the exact same problem. There is no fixing anything we just need to hope, and focus on not wasting another year and making a proper F1 car to compete with newey, like Mclaren did.

[anuragiyer8989]

After the first and only round of pitstop Alonso was 30 seconds behind, and it ended with additional of 6-8 seconds. Macca and RB were faster than us, but roughly by that 6-8 seconds difference over 30 laps or so. Not that big.

We're losing a huge amount of time at the first stint. We just couldn't get the tires up to temperature. The softer the tires, the more narrow its operating temperature is so we need to really get right up to that precise point at the first stint when we always start with the options, and we lose a lot of heat before the race start. We just couldn't do that.

We're much more consistent in the 2nd stint because the harder tires have wider operating temperature, and we don't lose as much heat as the start. Once we get into the operating range, we were fine. Lewis and Vettel was driving their hearts out but the 30sec gap did not opened up that much.

If we can solve our tires temperature problem, I think we can challenge for win.

I want those engine-burning, refuelling, pitstop challenging days back! This tire dependancy is so frustrating! Don't know what Hamashima is doing in Maranello! Eating sushi?!

[Hornet]

Unfortunately races are not run over 30 laps on the tyre compound you prefer. To be competitive you need a car that works with both sets of tyres, and we dont have that just as we didnt last year when we had the exact same problem. There is no fixing anything we just need to hope, and focus on not wasting another year and making a proper F1 car to compete with newey, like Mclaren did.

Yes, of course its a problem that Ferrari have to solve. If Red Bull and McLaren have no temperature problem, then there has to be a way to work the tires and we need to find it out next season.

By the way, if I recalled correctly, in one of Sky's interview with the Pirelli boss in past free practice session, he mentioned that Pirelli will be trying to change the tire again next season because they are aiming for 2-3 stops or something like that. Can anyone confirm if Pirelli will be making the tires lifespan shorter next year?