Ferrari has “run out of patience” with F1 rules – Montezemolo

[fratelliferrari]

That house is SICK! I think it's a very big problem that the big boss of F1 only cares about money and not about the sport itself. I can't wait till the day he retires and hopefully then the next boss will give the sport back to the fans!

[Giallo 550]

Dagobert Duck (see above)

Oh Hell no! That's Uncle Scrooge McDuck (at least in the US), my favorite Disney character. I was him for Halloween when I was like 4.

[vcs316]

Who is taking over from Bernie when/if he decides to step down? His new bride?

[Nova]

I go along with Ferrari and Luca on this..
Back them 1000%.
Lets get back to some real F1.

[Jacquesvw]

If we'd won despite the testing ban, would he still be saying that, though?

How would we know and what does it matter?

[aroutis]

If we'd won despite the testing ban, would he still be saying that, though?

I think this is sort of irrelevant.

Truth being told, the whole thing with F1 the way it goes, has nothing to do with Ferrari's take on the sport indeed.

Yes, aero is part of the sport, whoever says otherwise is stupid. But Ferrari does care bout evolution of engine for example, and when I say evolution, clearly I don't mean the changes of 2014. Also, there should be an analogy between engine and aero, and truth being told what we see the past years is a domination of aero over engine which really is a joke.

I am with LCdM on this one.

As for testing, let's not forget that in the end of the day RBR has two teams, in essense they run two testing programs.

[Italian Spirit]

Who is taking over from Bernie when/if he decides to step down? His new bride?

He will never step down, he will leave only horizontally, feet in front.

[fratelliferrari]

Iam not happy to say this but i think you are right. He will never retire if he is not forced to.

[Massimo]

Nice anecdote i came across,

The year is 1986, and just as now, there were some hard negotiations going, about the new concorde agreement.
A group of FOCA delegates was invited to Ferrari headquarters in Maranello, to discuss with the great Enzo Ferrari, the points on which Ferrari disagreed and Bernie had refused to change.
Enzo had them accomodated in his office, and without saying a word, he opened the window that faced the Fiorano testtrack, just when the crew rolled out the Gustav Brunner designed Ferrari Indycar, shocked by the sight of this "red monster" they returned home and convinved Bernie he had to meet Ferrari's demands or, they were certain Ferrari would leave F1.

[Super M]

He will never step down, he will leave only horizontally, feet in front.

[fratelliferrari]

Nice one indeed Massimo. Never heard that story before.

[Grillo]

I have no doubt Red Bull won so many titles because they did a great job but I think a drinks company winning title after title for so many seasons is probably a bad thing for car manufacturers to enter F1 as it's been aerodynamics where Red Bull have really made the didference. I mean, not everybody is a hardcore F1 fan and most people don't understand how Red Bull can beat Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, Lotus Renault... I've been asked a few times HOW can that happen and I told them about testing ban, engine freeze, budget cap, etc. and of course about Red Bull's budget, Newey, aerodynamics, etc. I think I failed to make them understand that F1 is not a car manufacturers sport. So I understand Montezemolo complaints but I think should just work harder or work on a standardised aerodynamics package like they did with electronics (ECU).

[SS454]

I don't think there is a ton wrong with the rules. Gone were the days were a team could develop so many new ideas and the cars would get faster and faster each year. I think there needs to be some rule changes during SC situations and clearly needs to be better rules for yellow flag/yellow lights. Regardless if the team is named Red Bull or Ferrari, most of these teams aren't coming up with ideas to be seen on road cars. While Luca speaks some truth, he wants track testing back because the Ferrari wind tunnel is crap and needs actual data to verify the changes. The only updates that were working came around the time of some in season testing.

[dpiatto]

GT & World Endurance Championship getting much stonger now with some close racing & in many respects more thrilling than F1.
C'mon Luca get Ferrari back to Le Mans and let the wicked dwarf drown in Red Bull.

[Rob]

GT & World Endurance Championship getting much stonger now with some close racing & in many respects more thrilling than F1.
C'mon Luca get Ferrari back to Le Mans and let the wicked dwarf drown in Red Bull.

Be good, but be the end of the F1 programme. Luca D has said couldnt do factory backed LMP programme aswell as F1, be nice for that to happen, but wouldnt want see Ferrari out of F1. Its our home, this energy drinks firm is just squatters in, we can and will remove them.

[mirafiori]

He will never step down, he will leave only horizontally, feet in front.

He [Bernie] needs to go, he has become too friendly with Red Bull, and especially SV, and you can add Charlie Whiting to that list.

[fratelliferrari]

That's right. He even wants that one of his daughters marries Vettel. A rather strange action from that grandpa again.

[Brakefade]

I think Ferrari should just test as they used to, and challenge the FIA and Bernie to throw them out. The outcry from the fans would be too much for them to handle. The titles would lose half their value without Ferrari there, not to mention the monetary losses Bernie and the FIA would take. You think RB (the company) would want to be there without Ferrari?

[XXX132]

My take on this is Ferrari have never been particularly good at transferring ideas straight from wind-tunnel to track. That's why we found testing so benficial. Now it takes us half a season to find out we have correlation issues and affect a remedy. This is where Newey excels. He can produce stuff that works more-or-less straight out of the box, whereas we need some intensive development. With testing, we can out-develop and beat him very easily. Without it, we simply run out of track time.

LdM seems to dislike aero generally, but as President of a car manufacturer I can see his point. No doubt he would prefer to spend money where it can be of direct benefit to his company's day to day core activity. Aero for F1-shaped vehicles is a virtual dead end for road car design. Engines aren't. The possibilities to develop new (and possibly greener?) technology are endless. Yet F1 seems to have it all back to front; frozen engines and open aero development. To save fuel, they simply make them smaller.. real dumb.

[FranksterGM]

I have no doubt Red Bull won so many titles because they did a great job but I think a drinks company winning title after title for so many seasons is probably a bad thing for car manufacturers to enter F1 as it's been aerodynamics where Red Bull have really made the didference. I mean, not everybody is a hardcore F1 fan and most people don't understand how Red Bull can beat Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, Lotus Renault... I've been asked a few times HOW can that happen and I told them about testing ban, engine freeze, budget cap, etc. and of course about Red Bull's budget, Newey, aerodynamics, etc. I think I failed to make them understand that F1 is not a car manufacturers sport. So I understand Montezemolo complaints but I think should just work harder or work on a standardised aerodynamics package like they did with electronics (ECU).

A lot of people follow drivers now and not teams like the old days.
Many think the Constructors title is not important..
Shame...

[Massa#1]

Its easy to criticize when we have not won anything for years on end.

there is not much wrong, ferrari just need to up their game.

[Werner601]

I agree with Brakefade, and if that does not help... Pull from F1 they will quickly realize that they need Ferrari more than they think.
I would hate to see Ferrari leave F1 however we need to show Old Bernie that F1 need's ferrari more than what ferrari needs F1....

[dpiatto]

Hope your right about the squatters & a shame Ferrari have no plans to build an LMP1 car.