2nd Winter test, Barcelona 2013

**Massimo181** · 19th February 2013, 09:59

Not sure the fuel levels will speak to Fernando at lunch and ask him, won't call will just send a text!

**SinanOzerS** · 19th February 2013, 10:00

Originally Posted by OSS EL BOSS

Fernando goes fastest on hard tyres

Hard ? I think that was medium.

**Hermann** · 19th February 2013, 10:01

One of the best things here is always the explosion of 'Alonso goes first' postings, followed by Fernando being beaten by a FI the next moment.

**albert** · 19th February 2013, 10:08

The Ferrari looks very generic imo, nothing really stands out as creative especially the exhausts. I will be very surprised if it has front runner pace.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 19th February 2013, 10:11

Di Resta now fastest with 1:24.144 on medium

**Jacquesvw** · 19th February 2013, 10:13

Originally Posted by albert

The Ferrari looks very generic imo, nothing really stands out as creative especially the exhausts. I will be very surprised if it has front runner pace.

LOL

Last year everything on the Ferrari stood out, but it was terrible in the winter testing.

**fronaldo** · 19th February 2013, 10:14

alonso and perez fastest time with hard tyres..di resta medium..

**ManFromMilan** · 19th February 2013, 10:16

Originally Posted by albert

The Ferrari looks very generic imo, nothing really stands out as creative especially the exhausts. I will be very surprised if it has front runner pace.

Funny albert, as i see what we did in a lot what the other teams have on their cars. The Merc looks like the most " generic " of all the new cars for this year in my opinion.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 19th February 2013, 10:19

Vettel does 1:24.039 on medium

**medeni73** · 19th February 2013, 10:20

Kimi 1:23:571 on hards

**OSS EL BOSS** · 19th February 2013, 10:21

Lotus, the world champions in testing now fastest as Kimi does 1.23.571

**medeni73** · 19th February 2013, 10:23

Alonso 1:23:626

**bluesilhouettes** · 19th February 2013, 10:23

Originally Posted by ManFromMilan

Funny albert, as i see what we did in a lot what the other teams have on their cars. The Merc looks like the most " generic " of all the new cars for this year in my opinion.

Yeah, agree. Merc's is most but Ferrari's is second most.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 19th February 2013, 10:24

Alonso with 1.23.626 on hard tyres

**alex1s** · 19th February 2013, 10:25

For the fast time seekers of the forum....including me

From autosport live
11:23 Alonso is also out on hard tyres. He backed off on his second lap.
11:21 Alonso closes in on Raikonen with a 1m23.626s.

**tohellandback** · 19th February 2013, 10:25

Why is FA going from 1:23 to 1:28 whats happening ....

**RedPassion** · 19th February 2013, 10:26

The Ferrari looks very generic imo, nothing really stands out as creative especially the exhaust.I will be very surprised if it has front runner pace.
No way Mate

Read the article of Mr. Anderson.Quite an extreme car,from the front to the rear.Highest nose,vertical radiator with all the bulk forward,monstruos undercut with extreme coke bottle (EVEN TO THE EDGE OF FLOW SEPARATIoN) very tall sidepods sides in the front with no existing sidepods in the rear(the contrary of the williams FW35,which apart from the geabox is a more conventional car),extremised pull rod at the front and on the rear,innovative rear wing.What do you want more????????

Quite lots of risks for an evolution of the F2012 ,hope they will pay

**medeni73** · 19th February 2013, 10:26

Originally Posted by tohellandback

Why is FA going from 1:23 to 1:28 whats happening ....

Alonso wants some more "oh no championship is over" posts in forum.... :)

**bluesilhouettes** · 19th February 2013, 10:28

Just for reference:
Last year Spanish qualifying result is Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 21.707s.

Best time in Catalunya test last year was S. Perez Sauber 1:22.094

**RedPassion** · 19th February 2013, 10:29

Originally Posted by medeni73

Alonso wants some more "oh no championship is over" posts in forum.... :)

**OSS EL BOSS** · 19th February 2013, 10:30

Vettel did just 12 laps till now.

**medeni73** · 19th February 2013, 10:30

Dont expect to get those times in this test cos those times were made with ultra-low-fuel cars with DRS activated everywhere...So I guess some 1:22 will be more realistic...

**tohellandback** · 19th February 2013, 10:35

Lotus and Kimi looks a threatening

**tohellandback** · 19th February 2013, 10:37

finger boy goes fastest - 1:23.290

**RedPassion** · 19th February 2013, 10:38

Originally Posted by medeni73

Dont expect to get those times in this test cos those times were made with ultra-low-fuel cars with DRS activated everywhere...So I guess some 1:22 will be more realistic...

We should not expect aniway to be fastest

I think we still are 7 or 8 tenths from the best,theF138 is an evolution of the F2012(even if a far better one).I think at the moment all are more or less where they were.Things will start to change when all teams bring their aero package for the first race,than it will possible to have a little better comprehension of the speed of each cars. we will have the whole truth only in melbourne.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 19th February 2013, 10:40

I think it will be very tight between the teams at least in the first rounds of the championsship. And the fight for Q3 will be as hard as the fight for pole.

**Massimo** · 19th February 2013, 10:49

Just a few laps, and some of you are already writing Ferrari of, or saying we're 7 or 8 tenths of pace, come on, get real, the real car we see in Melbourne, and i'm very confident.
But if you want to believe assumptions or opinions from different autosport journalists, why not believe this:

What fascinates me, is that at the launch of the MP4-27, it was noted how low the front of the car was and hence the opportunity to develop the car and work with the airflow under the nose was constrained.
It was not this that constrained McLaren in 2012, so if the car is quick – and Barcelona test 1 will give us a better idea than Jerez – then McLaren will have even more development opportunities in 2013 with the front end of the car.

So both McLaren and Ferrari are on a ‘pull rod’ system and RB have stayed with the ‘push rod’ suspension.
I’m wondering has Newey missed a trick by sticking with the push rod system and the lower ‘roll centre’ and reduces area for air flow manipulation?