Well, there's no point hiding it I guess. It's a slow to medium speed track, in most section traction out of the corners are important. Traction is one of Ferrari's weakness. It's been a problem for a long time.Originally Posted by R Ginart
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Well, there's no point hiding it I guess. It's a slow to medium speed track, in most section traction out of the corners are important. Traction is one of Ferrari's weakness. It's been a problem for a long time.
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It's not that there are no mathematical chances for that, but I think they are pretty SLIM!
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For some reason, me thinks so too. And you and I will have bragging rights for calling it right!
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It will be a 1-2For some reason, me thinks so too. And you and I will have bragging rights for calling it right!
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I cant see us winning, looking at the sillverstone test I could not see any visible changes unlike sauber etc...but heres hoping! Keeping an open mind till quali!
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The Hungaroring might not suit the F138, but Felipe Massa is confident Ferrari will be competitive this weekend.
With overtaking notoriously difficult in Hungary, qualifying is likely to play an extremely important role in the outcome of the race and Ferrari will be the first to admit they are not up to scratch when it comes to pace over a single lap.
The veteran Brazilian, though, feels they can prove their doubters wrong.
"For sure people say the characteristics of our car are not best suited to this circuit and that it will be tough for us to fight for the win here, but I am not sure this is an accurate assessment, because there have been other circuits where we expected our car to be very strong and it was not and vice versa," he told the official Ferrari website.
"The important thing will be to get a good understanding of exactly how the car is reacting as quickly as possible. The circuit requires as much downforce as possible, because the speed down the straight is not so important here. You need a car that is very stable and that is kind to the tyres to avoid degradation.
"I think we can be competitive, so I'm hoping our weekend goes in the opposite way to what people are expecting."
Massa has struggled in recent races, retiring in two of last four races, but he is optimistic he can turn things around at the Hungagoring.
"For a driver, the most important thing is always the race result and I hope this weekend will deliver that for me, as the last couple of races have not been so successful," he said.
"There was always something happening which meant I couldn't finish as high up as I should have done. Therefore what I would like most of all is to turn things around, because going on holiday with a good result under my belt would really make the difference."
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FIA elects for double DRS zone for F1 Hungarian GP
Formula 1 drivers will have an extra DRS overtaking opportunity in Hungary this weekend with the FIA electing to try out a double zone.
The tight and twisty nature of the Hungaroring makes it very difficult for drivers to pass each other, even when able to make use of DRS on the start-finish straight over the past few seasons.
For this year, the FIA is introducing a second DRS zone just after Turn 1.
Although the run to the downhill left-hander of Turn 2 is very short, the fact it comes right after the main DRS zone means drivers may be able to get close enough in to the first corner to make a move straight afterward.
Overtaking at Turn 2 is not unheard of - Lewis Hamilton notably picked off Mark Webber, with a dab of KERS, at the corner en route to his 2009 victory.
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Vettel points gap ‘a bit too much’ admits Alonso
By Editor on Thursday, July 25, 2013
Fernando Alonso has admitted he needs to start making up ground on runaway championship leader Sebastian Vettel.
Having won two grands prix so far in 2013 compared to reigning triple world champion Vettel’s four, Spaniard Alonso said Ferrari is working “day and night” to recover lost time in the car development race.
“We must try to finish ahead of Vettel,” Ferrari’s Alonso told Italian television TG1 ahead of this weekend’s Hungarian grand prix.
The last race before the summer break and factory shutdowns, Budapest marks the exact half-way point of the 2013 championship.
German Vettel, driving for Red Bull, has a 34-point lead over Alonso with ten races to go.
Alonso admitted: “The gap to Vettel is beginning to be a bit too much in terms of points. We have to reduce this gap as soon as possible.”
Having recently watered down his anti-Vettel rhetoric, Alonso this week insisted that the 26-year-old German has a clear car advantage again in 2013.
“Any driver who goes into the Red Bull manages to go very strongly,” he said.
“We saw that in the tests for young drivers (at Silverstone),” Alonso added, referring to tests last week for Antonio Felix da Costa, Daniel Ricciardo and Carlos Sainz jr.
“Whoever goes into the Red Bull is very fast — it is a fact that it is stronger than the others,” said Alonso.
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At least some one has finally dare to speak about the ugly truth!
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Pretty obvious really
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Just 2 questions---
1. How does this track suit us?
2. Are the high temperatures going to work for us or against us with all the tyre changes.
Havent been following developments off late hence the questios.
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1. NoJust 2 questions---
1. How does this track suit us?
2. Are the high temperatures going to work for us or against us with all the tyre changes.
Havent been following developments off late hence the questios.
2. In our favor
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It is indeed! But plenty of people around here at looking at it with the pink glasses on...Pretty obvious really
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1. If we suddenly didn't figure out our traction problems, the answer is no. This is actually one of the worst layouts for a car with poor (compared to other top teams) traction.Just 2 questions---
1. How does this track suit us?
2. Are the high temperatures going to work for us or against us with all the tyre changes.
Havent been following developments off late hence the questios.
2. As zike said. The higher the temperatures, the better for us... and Lotus and Force India.
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I am currently packing myself for tomorrow early in the morning trip to Budapest
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Ferrari completes deal with James Allison
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108948
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Formula 1 teams to discuss minimum pitstop time
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108938
Already by reading article title this is NONSENSE!!!
Why not give all the drivers bicycles (but not with 18 speeds) and let them race??!?!?!
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Seems that any driver who loses a wheel in a GP weekend will now incur a 10 place grid penalty, concept of minimum pit stop time rejected
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CAVALLINO RAMPANTE PER SEMPRE
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Enjoy your weekend at Budapest,try to make the best out of it while you can;)I am currently packing myself for tomorrow early in the morning trip to Budapest
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Hungarian GP – Alonso: “a sad day”
Hungaroring, 25 July – Fernando Alonso’s press meeting was overshadowed by news of the terrible train crash in Spain yesterday. “A sad day, because you go to bed thinking of your problems last night and the little things that went wrong in your day and you want to improve something and you quickly realise how unimportant those things are,” said the Ferrari man. “This news reminds you what is really important in life and there is a feeling of frustration that you can’t do anything, you cannot put the clocks back. Your thoughts are with the families of those involved with the people in that train. Of course, we will try and have the best race possible, knowing that it cannot make these people happy, but we can try and dedicate our maximum effort to them.”
The heat is always a topic in Budapest, with temperatures set to hit the 37 degree mark on race day, but the Spaniard seemed cool about it. “Nothing changes in terms of preparation, whatever the temperature on Sunday, we will do our normal preparation,” he said. “We just need to be a bit more open on strategy, in case we need to make an extra stop because of the tyres, but we won’t know until we start practice tomorrow.” As usual, this race also marks the final event before the F1 summer holiday, which adds to its flavour. “A good result this weekend would be very good for team motivation and our hopes,” affirmed Fernando. “If we can close the gap to Sebastian before the break it would be a good thing, but if it increased, it would make it a stressful break for us and less motivating. So, it’s an important weekend.”
Alonso’s first ever Grand Prix victory came here in Hungary in 2003 and, prompted by a question, he had some unusual memories of that significant day. “I remember my father was here and I was able to hug him. He comes from a very normal job, working in factory making explosives for mines and my mother working in a shopping mall so after the race, I said ‘we win a Formula 1 race and this will be there for all our lives, even if we retire tomorrow, we will be very proud of this victory.’ Immediately after I took the flag, I flew to Poland because we had an event there on the Monday. I don’t know why, but this flight to Poland is one of my main memories, because I wanted to celebrate with family or fly to Spain to see friends and I had to fly to Poland!
Since the incidents in the pit lane at the German GP, the pit lane speed limit has been reduced, media access is restricted and proposals are being discussed to reduce the speed with which pit stops themselves are completed. The Prancing Horse driver had this to say on the subject: “Always when something happens in terms of safety, we must react and we are all in agreement on improving safety. However, finding the way to do it is difficult to agree on. But I think reducing the pit lane speed limit cannot be bad, as it is the same for all the teams and there is less risk for the mechanics. Reducing the number of media in the pit lane during free practice can also be a solution, because sometimes there are too many of them in FP1 and FP2. In pit stops we are all trying to find the limits; of driver reaction time, the wheelguns and the procedure itself, so if they find a solution to increase the time of a pit stop to improve safety and it is the same for all the teams, I don’t think anyone will disagree.”
http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/hun...onso-a-sad-day
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Hungarian GP – Massa: “the heat suits us best”
Hungaroring, 25 July – It happened four years ago, but Felipe Massa cannot come to Hungary without being asked about the very serious accident of 2009, when he was hit on the head by a suspension spring that came off another car. Asked about it this afternoon at the usual press meeting in the paddock, Felipe began by joking that “I remember 2008, but actually I don’t remember 2009 at all! I’ve always liked this track, it has suited my driving style, but I’ve never managed to get a solid result. In 2008, I had the win in my pocket, but I ended up parked at three laps from the end. Then in 2009, there was the accident, so when I first arrive here, I always think of having a clean race and getting the sort of result that I have come close to getting. So I hope I have a really great weekend.”
Asked if the Scuderia would be tackling this weekend on the defensive, the Brazilian seemed surprised at the question. “We will have to wait and see how we go in qualifying, which will be an important moment for us,” he began. “It’s going to be a very hot weekend and if you ask what suits us best, I would say the heat, so if the car works well, we should expect to have a good race pace and therefore race on the attack not on the defense. Then it was time for another mid-season tradition, a question about Massa’s future with Ferrari. “Let’s wait and see,” he said. “At the moment my main concern is getting results and the rest doesn’t bother me so much. Good results would not only help me here at Ferrari, but also with other teams, in case there was nothing here.”
Prior to this event, Felipe spent half a day at the Silverstone test session, evaluating the new Pirelli tyres that are being used as from this weekend. “Testing was primarily useful in that we saw the tyres did not fail,” he maintained. “There was not a single tyre problem for us or for the other teams. They went through long and short runs with no problems and they seem to be more consistent, maybe a bit slower over a first flying lap. So I think it was useful. Here, the old data will still be relevant as the tyres are more or less the same as last year. We will have to see what happens in the heat.” On the subject of moves to make the pit lane safer, restricting media access and reducing the speed limit in pit lane, Felipe was not convinced that a slower pit lane would necessarily be a safer one. “I don’t think the problem in the pit lane (in Germany) came from the speed, it came from the fact that a wheel was not properly fixed on the car. In that situation, if a car is doing 80 km/h or a hundred, a loose wheel is still going quickly. It is important to fix all these safety issues and with pit stops now down to two seconds, the possibility of making mistakes is greater than before.”
http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/hun...eat-suits-best
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Thank you. I hope I will. It is going to be hot like hell!Enjoy your weekend at Budapest,try to make the best out of it while you can;)
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The Hungaroring is often called "Monaco without the houses", so I expect the same results. I do hope I am wrong.
Don't play dumb with me. I'm better at it than you are.
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Track "suitness" is one of the things I do not entirely believe, conditions - yes. If the car is good it will be good almost everywhere, if it sits regularly on 3rd row of the grid then there is a big chance to find it at the same place this weekend.
Meanwhile, it either says something or just nothing that Alonso, Schumacher and Raikkonen have reputedly spared a F1 podium on five occasions and Fernando has stood on the top step on every occasion. He's F1's first among equals. (PG)
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We have same thought about "suitness". Good car is good on every track!
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I am leaving for Budapest. Next post from Hungary!
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Good luck stefa and have a safe trip.OK
I am leaving for Budapest. Next post from Hungary!
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Hungarian GP – Desert heat, deserted pit lane
Hungaroring, 26 July – With an uneven number of races on this year’s calendar – 19 – this tenth round of the season, the Hungarian Grand Prix, is as near as one can get to an actual halfway point. It is also the final round before the summer break, but there is certainly no sense of the holiday starting early, as there is plenty going on here on the outskirts of Budapest.
To start with, this is the first race at which Pirelli has brought its new tyres, with the 2012 construction and the 2013 compounds, having had a chance to test them with ten of the eleven teams, including the Scuderia, in Silverstone last week. It was surprisingly hot in England for the three days, but not when compared to the furnace that is the middle of land-locked Hungary in the height of summer. Therefore, for all teams, assessing the performance of the Medium and Soft compounds has been an important part of the day’s work: with a good grid position vital on this sinuous track, getting the best out of them for tomorrow’s qualifying was a priority, but one matched by the need to ensure they also work well over a long run for Sunday afternoon. Add in the usual tasks of assessing new parts and generally working on set-up and it made for hot times, in all senses of the word in the Prancing Horse garage.
Initial signs seem positive, with 56 trouble free laps each for Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa, as they ended the day in fourth and fifth places on the final time sheet respectively.
Quickest in both sessions were the Red Bull duo of Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber and this afternoon, third fastest was Romain Grosjean in the Lotus. Behind the Brazilian Ferrari driver, Lewis Hamilton completed the top six for Mercedes.
The pit lane looked strangely deserted today, as a result of a new rule banning media from it during sessions, following the incident at the Nurburgring, when a wheel came off Mark Webber’s car as he pulled away from a pit stop and hit a cameraman. The rule was eventually modified, so that a select band were allowed in to send images of the garage action around the world.
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