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    2013 Hungarian GP Build up - Team news, quotes and pics



    Circuit: Hungaroring
    Location: 2146 Mogyorod Pf. 10, Hungaroring Sport Rt - Hungary
    Debuit: August 10, 1986
    Attendance: 120,000 spectators



    Car performance

    Full throttle: 56%
    Downforce level: HIGH
    Gear changes per lap: 48
    Fuel use per lap: 2.1 kg
    Pit lane time loss: 20 seconds
    No of turns: 14 (6 left/8 right)
    Average speed: 194 Km/h
    Top speed: 291 Km/h
    Fastest lap: 1’18.436 (201.076 kph) by Rubens Barrichello, F2004
    Tyres: Pirelli PZero Medium (Prime) and Pirelli PZero Soft (Option)

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    Very high temperatures are expected all weekend! As always in this time of year in Budapest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On by Andrew Benson
    Pirelli will take softer tyres to Hungarian Grand Prix

    Pirelli has decided to take softer tyres to the forthcoming Hungarian Grand Prix than it initially planned

    Lotus criticised the initial choice of the 'hard' and 'medium' tyres as "very conservative".

    BBC Sport has learned this has been revised to 'soft' and 'medium' for the race on 28 July.

    Pirelli said its decision to change the construction of the tyres following the multiple failures at the British Grand Prix meant softer rubber could be used.
    Pirelli has reverted to the construction used in 2012 following the blow-ups.

    The company discovered while investigating the British Grand Prix problems that its 2013 construction had a weakness if used in certain ways. Pirelli was allowed to revert to the former design on safety grounds by governing body the FIA.

    A Pirelli spokeswoman said: "The change to the 2012 construction means that Hungary doesn't require such a hard compound now."

    The new choices now mirror those used in Hungary last year, but because Pirelli is using softer rubber compounds across its tyre range this season, the tyres used at the Hungaroring in 2013 will effectively be one grade softer than last year.

    The durability of the rubber compounds used this year had become a controversial issue long before the blow-outs at Silverstone, which were caused by a series of different issues that had nothing to do with the durability of the rubber used on the tyre.

    Red Bull and Mercedes have lobbied for harder compounds to be used.

    Red Bull complained earlier this season that the tyres were too soft and were preventing drivers from pushing to the limit in races.

    Mercedes, who are struggling with excessive tyre usage, have also lobbied for more conservative choices.

    Lotus, Ferrari and Force India, whose cars are among the easiest on tyres, feel there was never anything wrong with the compound choices Pirelli was making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Very high temperatures are expected all weekend! As always in this time of year in Budapest.
    Well, except 2006... :D

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    "Very good " for Mecedes and RB

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    It is going to be very, very hot for the next 10 days. 30-35 degrees C with full sun and no chance of rain. The track will be blazing hot. Be prepared for tire troubles for those who are not very, very easy on their tires.

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    It will be great if we go to the summer vacation with a good result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingdom Hearts View Post
    It will be great if we go to the summer vacation with a good result.
    Can't agree with you more! As it is,it's frustrating to wait 3 weeks since Germany,and another not so good result would be even more frustrating!! Cuz then it's 4 more weeks of waiting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FA fan View Post
    Can't agree with you more! As it is,it's frustrating to wait 3 weeks since Germany,and another not so good result would be even more frustrating!! Cuz then it's 4 more weeks of waiting!
    To many long breaks, we just had 3 weeks, again
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    Gamut of emotions in Hungary

    Joy, fear, excitement, disappointment are all emotions that can be linked to the Hungarian Grand Prix. It has become something of a high-summer classic on the Formula 1 World Championship calendar and the scene of a range of emotions with contrasting fortunes for Scuderia Ferrari and its fans.

    For example, how could one forget that it was at the Hungaroring in 2001 that the Scuderia and Michael Schumacher would claim both championships at the end of a race that finished in a great one-two for the team? Another double top finish three years later brought the Maranello team its sixth consecutive Constructors’ title along with the guarantee that one of its drivers would win the Drivers’ crown, given that the maths indicated that only Schumacher or Barrichello could finish first.

    Going further back in time, there are two great victories that stand out: in 1989, Nigel Mansell came from twelfth on the grid to win and then in 1998, Ross Brawn came up with a three stop strategy, considered a very risky choice at the time, with Schumacher playing his part, knocking out a couple of stints at qualifying pace, to take an unexpected win in the F300.

    There was disappointment too, such as in 2000, when Hakkinen won from Michael, thus putting the McLaren driver ahead in the classification, after a fightback that a few races earlier seemed impossible. That year, after a win in Canada, Michael had built up a substantial lead, but he then saw it frittered away with three consecutive retirements, in Magny-Cours, Zeltweg and Hockenheim: so when Hakkinen won at the Hungaroring, he led the championship, consolidating his lead a fortnight later in Spa. However, the destiny of this championship would be turned on its head again, as Michael strung together a series of four consecutive wins, which delivered him his first world title with Ferrari, who also won the Constructors’ championship. The disappointment of the 2008 race was very hard to take, especially as there was to be no reversal of fortune. Felipe Massa produced a sensational start to pass both the McLarens right at the first corner to go into the lead. The Brazilian was comfortably in the lead until, with three laps remaining, the engine on his F2008 let him down on the main straight: the ten points that literally went up in smoke that day would cost him and Ferrari dear, given that the title went to Hamilton, only fifth that day, by a single point.

    Fear, real fear, the sort that hits you hard was felt by all Ferraristi the following year when a bizarre incident made one fear for Felipe’s life. What are the chances of an incident of this sort taking place, when a damper off fellow-countryman Barrichello’s Brawn GP car hit Felipe on the helmet during Q2? For many of us and of you, there followed anxious days, but fortunately it all ended well, but from then on, it was hard not to think about it on every subsequent visit to Budapest.

    Of the 27 Hungarian Grands Prix held to date, Scuderia Ferrari has only won five: apart from those mentioned already (1989, 1998 and 2001,) the roll of honour also features Rubens Barrichello’s 2002 victory and another one for Michael Schumacher in 2004. The Prancing Horse has been on pole seven times, six of them down to the multiple world champion and one courtesy of his team-mate, Rubens Barrichello. There have also been eight fastest race laps, the last from Massa in 2011.

    Fernando Alonso’s best memory of the Hungaroring dates back ten years, when the man from Oviedo took his maiden Formula 1 win, the first of 32 to date. In eleven attempts, Fernando has finished a further three times on the podium once in second place and twice in third. He has the same number of other points finishes (two fourths and a fifth.) His team-mate has a more meager tally: Felipe’s best result is a fourth place from nine starts and he has set the race fastest lap in the aforementioned 2011 as well as in 2006.

    http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/gamut-emotions-hungary
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    GUNAA BE HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!! Good news for us I hope...looking forward to seeing mercades melt! :)

    The upcoming Hungarian Grand Prix could take place amid sweltering heat, with weather forecasters predicting temperatures to peak at 40°C (104°F) on Sunday.

    The last time similar conditions arose was in 2005, at the Bahrain Grand Prix. On race day, the air temperature hit 40°C, while the track temperature rose to 56°C (132.8°F).

    The aforesaid Sakhir race – along with the 1955 Argentine Grand Prix, 1959 French Grand Prix and 1984 Dallas Grand Prix – is ranked as one of the hottest in history.

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    May this be a turning point in our favour with softer tyres, and maybe Felipe can put an end to his bad memories of the circuit with a good result and a win and podium would make our summer. Forza ragazzi!

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    The Hungaroring hates Felipe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by REDARMYSOJA View Post
    The Hungaroring hates Felipe.
    I'm pretty sure the Hungarian public don't hate him and would love to see him get a decent result....the track on the other hand......I hope you're wrong.

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    Redarmysoja probably think that Hungaroring track hates Masa,not people

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjoko-mkd View Post
    Redarmysoja probably think that Hungaroring track hates Masa,not people
    Yes, I thought it was clear I meant the track and Felipe's worse than bad luck there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FA fan View Post
    Can't agree with you more! As it is,it's frustrating to wait 3 weeks since Germany,and another not so good result would be even more frustrating!! Cuz then it's 4 more weeks of waiting!

    Jip, me too. I would seriously love to watch F1 every weekend.

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    Think lotus will be the team to beat with these high temperatures. They would have won in Germany had it not been for the safety car and strategy. We'll do well just to finish on the podium. Think it will be damage limitation weekend.

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    I just thought of this. With the FIA slowing down the cars in the pits now the pit lane delta must have grown. This aids in cars being able to stop one time less even more. Perhaps something we may try to exploit.
    Forza Ferrari!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    Think lotus will be the team to beat with these high temperatures. They would have won in Germany had it not been for the safety car and strategy. We'll do well just to finish on the podium. Think it will be damage limitation weekend.
    I agree with you.. I don't think our car is that good around the Hungaroring, we are ok with tyres, but so is RBR, Lotus is even better.. Lotus can try do to a stop less than us.. Qualy will be bad probably, so to win from RBR, our pace needs to be much better, which I'm not expecting.. Last year, Lotus was very strong here to
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    Hopefully a good result with Alonso finishing in front of vettel and reducing the gap even a small bit. 4 week wait while factory shuts down for 2 weeks, so the data/information gathered from ydt will now give us a clear development path (hopefully) still 9 races too go so all too play for. Would ferrari develop too the end if Alonso's still in with a shout?

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    Who remembers this haha...ohhh the joys of that season! http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...os_tactics_07/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jas View Post
    Who remembers this haha...ohhh the joys of that season! http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...os_tactics_07/
    What you call a joy, is basically the reason why many british fans and journalists hate his guts to this day. Is it really necessary to bring it up again for the upteenth time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann View Post
    What you call a joy, is basically the reason why many british fans and journalists hate his guts to this day. Is it really necessary to bring it up again for the upteenth time...
    Witnessed that from the grands stands

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    Alonso ain't all that hated from what I see at Silverstone, just he drives for Ferrari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermann View Post
    What you call a joy, is basically the reason why many british fans and journalists hate his guts to this day. Is it really necessary to bring it up again for the upteenth time...
    Alonso hated by fans in UK...no he isn't...joy...hell yh...we one the championship because of the battle between these two, so yes, joy! :)

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    Some still hate him in the UK for what happened in 2007 but many people in the UK since then have grown to respect him that he is truly a great driver.

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    Hungary Gp – Hungary, then the Half-Term Holiday.

    Maranello, 23 July – The Formula 1 season moves along at such a frantic pace that there is very little time to pause for breath, as team personnel are always looking ahead to the next race, the next technical upgrade and the next flight. However, after this coming Sunday’s race at the Hungaroring, the sport faces a 28 day hiatus until the red lights go out above the race track at Spa-Francorchamps to signal the start of the following Grand Prix. It will be time for the summer break and a two week factory shut-down for all the teams, when no work is allowed. Before then, there’s the small matter of 70 laps of the 4.381 kilometre Hungaroring to deal with.

    What was once seen as an exotic trip into the unknown of Eastern Europe is now a very familiar venue, given this will be the twenty eighth year Formula 1 has visited the Magyar track, since its 1986 debut. Only Scuderia Ferrari’s home race at Monza and the Monaco Grand Prix can boast a longer run of consecutive races on the F1 calendar. Just a short drive from the beautiful capital city of Budapest, this event always hosts a large and vocal crowd, much of its support directed at Ferrari’s Felipe Massa. In a bizarre twist of human nature, what was a life threatening incident at the 2009 race here, became a life affirming moment for the Brazilian and made him more popular than ever with the local fans. “The Hungarian Grand Prix is a very special event for me, that brings back a lot of memories” – confirms Felipe. “Naturally, there are some negative memories from my accident, but also positive ones in that I am here today, getting ready for Budapest, healthy and still racing. I love the fans in Hungary, as I actually have a lot more of them since my accident, so it’s somewhere I am always pleased to go back to and of course I hope I can have a good race there this weekend.”

    The difficulties and quirks of the Hungaroring are well documented – with 14 corners and a short straight all packed into just over four kilometres, overtaking, even with DRS is never easy, because the corners all run into one another, while dirt off the racing line adds to the risk of making a passing move. However, from a pure driving perspective, it’s great fun for the drivers. “It’s a short track, with a lot of corners one after the other with no long straights” – says Felipe – “Overtaking is difficult, with changes of direction all the time, which make it a fun track. So it’s an old style race track and Sunday afternoon can be tough, but I like going back to these old fashioned venues.”

    On paper at least, the Hungaroring might not seem well suited to the F138 and the difficulty in overtaking puts a greater premium than usual on qualifying well and getting a good grid position, a well documented weak point for the Prancing Horse. Felipe is not convinced the pundits are right. “For sure people say the characteristics of our car are not best suited to this circuit and that it will be tough for us to fight for the win here, but I am not sure this is an accurate assessment, because there have been other circuits where we expected our car to be very strong and it was not and vice versa. The important thing will be to get a good understanding of exactly how the car is reacting as quickly as possible. The circuit requires as much downforce as possible, because the speed down the straight is not so important here. You need a car that is very stable and that is kind to the tyres to avoid degradation. I think we can be competitive, so I’m hoping our weekend goes in the opposite way to what people are expecting.”

    Last week, Felipe spent a half day at the Silverstone test, his work restricted by the FIA to evaluating the new tyres that Pirelli will supply as from this weekend, which use the 2012 tyre construction with this year’s compounds. It was a useful exercise, as was the two and a half days that Scuderia Ferrari development driver Davide Rigon spent on track, to exploit his “young driver” status, meaning the team could also evaluate different technical settings on the car. Having originally planned to bring their Hard tyre as the Prime, the Italian manufacturer has now nominated the Medium and Soft compounds, a choice which certainly suits the F138 better. “I expect the tyres will be critical again, especially in relation to temperature” – affirms Ferrari’s Brazilian driver. “They will perform very differently in qualifying and the race and I hope we can make the most of the high temperatures.” Indeed, very high temperatures are predicted all week, with the mercury sizzling up to 37 degrees on race day.

    Not only does this race signal the start of the summer break, it is also the mid-point of the nineteen race season, a combination of factors that mean a good result on Sunday can be savoured for a while and provide a welcome boost when hostilities resume for the second half of the year. “For a driver, the most important thing is always the race result and I hope this weekend will deliver that for me, as the last couple of races have not been so successful” – admits Felipe. “There was always something happening which meant I couldn’t finish as high up as I should have done. Therefore what I would like most of all is to turn things around, because going on holiday with a good result under my belt would really make the difference.”

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    Here we go......."On paper at least, the Hungaroring might not seem well suited to the F138" this means forget pole, and hope for a podium.

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    Ferrari gonna win this one me thinks...

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