Hungarian Grand Prix 2013 - Race thread

[sagi58]

Just feeling really disappointed, right now! Honestly believed Alonso was set for the podium
and that Massa was set to haul in some good points!

And, truth be told, yes, I hoped Vettel would DNF, even if that's not very sporting!

What do we get instead? Hamilton winning in a Mercedes after all that illegal testing in Barcelona!
Sure, they weren't "allowed" to be present at the Young Drivers' Test; but, it's pretty obvious it
was necessary! Not only did they have hands-on testing in Barcelona, they had all the feedback
from the recent YTD!!

It always seems to be one more thing after another...

[Nero Horse]

I just hope things will get much better after the summer-break. Things don't look good at the moment, but I know that the whole team is doing everything they possibly can to turn things around. No point in moaning and whining like a girl on her period, like some members of this forum are doing here.

Ferrari will bounce back sooner or later, I have no doubt about that.

Well looks like this forum will be full of doom and gloom for at least the next 4 weeks or so, so I'll better stay away to save myself from reading these whiny-weepy comments.


Forza Ferrari Forever!!!!!!!!

[vasveras]

I am VERY sad !!!! I wonder what will Alonso say in the post race interview? !

[Suzie]

That race was grim Hate to join the doom-mongers but we seem to be going backwards.

[bonzo]

I just hope things will get much better after the summer-break. Things don't look good at the moment, but I know that the whole team is doing everything they possibly can to turn things around. No point in moaning and whining like a girl on her period, like some members of this forum are doing here.

Ferrari will bounce back sooner or later, I have no doubt about that.




Well looks like this forum will be full of doom and gloom for at least the next 4 weeks or so, so I'll better stay away to save myself from reading these whiny-weepy BS comments.




Forza Ferrari Forever!!!!!!!!

For which race from the past 5 seasons is your comment, Nero?

[Kyss4k]

That race was grim Hate to join the doom-mongers but we seem to be going backwards.

I wouldn't be so hard on the team. It just looks like we are going nowhere...

[F1NAC]

we suck, maybe we should start to work on the 2015 car

[PURE PASSION]

You must have a wild imgination or a very subtle sense of humor!

Not really!Just faith!!
Only i know how disappointed i am right now but no reason to suck everthing and everyone!!!
Just hoping that tomorrow(next race) will be a better one for us!!
If anyone dont't like the team and think that they are a bunch of losers, then stop supporting them!!!

[Meiga]

That race was grim Hate to join the doom-mongers but we seem to be going backwards.

Or at least not going forward as fast as other teams go.

It is undeniable that Ferrari has some hard questions to ask themselves. One can only hope that they find the right answers, but it is difficult to remain optimistic with respect to titles this season. Alonso was pretty clear today in the post-race interview on the Spanish TV: if they want to have a shoot at the titles, they need to win three or four races in a row, and to have both drivers consistently fighting for the podium not because they are having the race of their lives every weekend, but because they have a competitive car in their hands. I did not hear Massa's words, but I guess he will share that view - after all, it is not as if Alonso was saying something unexpected!

Having said that, it is not over till the fat lady sings. And the summer break may be very positive for the team's spirits.

[Golfsmith]

5th rate machinery for me,and 2014 will see us fall more back if the team goes on like this,fire the right one this time,team principal.

Are our technical people not up to the task to develop a good car or are they been told by people higher up what to do and this are the results of a good name but crap car.

[Grillo]

I'm not too disappointed this time. I was pretty sure the race would be a nightmare for us so 5th isn't too bad.

Maybe it's time to put all the eggs in 2014 basket. I'm sorry for a lot of Ferrari employees and fans that deserve a lot more, not only Alonso. There's a time that you have change things (reshuffle) to make things change. Else you can pray... :(

[Meiga]

Not really!Just faith!!
Only i know how disappointed i am right now but no reason to suck everthing and everyone!!!
Just hoping that tomorrow(next race) will be a better one for us!!
If anyone dont't like the team and think that they are a bunch of losers, then stop supporting them!!!

I would have thought that if anybody did not like the team and thought they were a bunch of losers they would have never started supporting them. Don't confuse stating that things need to improve with lack of support - I am sure that RBR supporters are not asking for things to change at Ferrari!

[bonzo]

5th rate machinery for me,and 2014 will see us fall more back if the team goes on like this,fire the right one this time,team principal.

Are our technical people not up to the task to develop a good car or are they been told by people higher up what to do and this are the results of a good name but crap car.

Both

[Jose-Lorca Fan]

we suck, maybe we should start to work on the 2015 car

Yes and then start the season like we did in 2012... There's no hiding from the fact that Ferrari have suffered from the same problems 3 years in a row.

[Nurav]

absolute rubbish race for us, and its not that it was a track specific problem, we have lost our race pace too. (or others have gained too much)
Forget the WDC guys, not that i am sarcastic but we have to be true to ourselves.
We are seriously heading to car no. 7 and 8 in 2014
I serioulsly believe that we should move over 2014...

[vasveras]

I have never heard before Alonso like this. I felt his disappoitment

[Rosso Corsa]

A bit of a brutal result, but hats off to our garage and drivers for doing the best with what we've got. Hats off to the competition too. We'll see you in Belgium.

[ManFromMilan]

Well looks like this forum will be full of doom and gloom for at least the next 4 weeks or so, so I'll better stay away to save myself from reading these whiny-weepy comments.


Forza Ferrari Forever!!!!!!!!

Yip, i don't even want to think how the forum is going to tear at each other in the coming weeks.

[Hornet]

Yip, i don't even want to think how the forum is going to tear at each other in the coming weeks.

Maybe we wouldn't be on each other's throat so often if we let everyone voice their own opinion instead of calling everyone's opinion whiny weepy bs

[ManFromMilan]

[bonzo]

A bit of a brutal result, but hats off to our garage and drivers for doing the best with what we've got. Hats off to the competition too. We'll see you in Belgium.

The humiliation is full. We came to a point where we say "Hats off for doing the best to the garage boys and drivers with what we've got". Next step is to be happy because we brought home some points, or both cars finished the race without being overlapped. With this management we will reach these points

[Nova]

Well, u never give up. I expected more from this race, and there r hard questions in the pipeline for sure.
Watching our drivers, it was as thou they were sliding so much, lack of grip? Not only that, but the race pace we had
earlier this year appears to have disappeared. Engine? Down on power?
This year, as last, it seems we move backwards, its as if development is done or reached its peak and the car does not get better..technical staff?
It was so odd to me to NOT see Alonso closing and fighting, and also watching Felipe going backwards. He couldnt keep Button off.
Is it management? After 5 laps, watching Alonso NOT keeping up w/the leaders set the race for me. If he coulda, he woulda..7 seconds down on the leaders
after 5 or so laps does not bode well for a good result.
If it is tires, then really, Im not sure what can be done..all I know is we had a better car/tire package at the start of the year and now we are fighting
for minor places. If this is the best we can do on these tires...well, u figure it out...
I will bet there will be changes, not only in technical, but higher up as well.
As far as giving up on the F138, I have to say no, as they already have a staff working on the 2014 car, so giving up
on the year to me, sends a negative message to the team and everyone at the factory.

[yz2006]

I have just heard that Honer met Luis Garcia (Alonso's agent) this weekend.. not sure what is this about...anybody get more details?

[diesel08]

Ferrari did wrong with strategy. They sacrifice the race setup to improve quali and fail. Pace race drop dramatically. That's all.

[kiwifella]

Rumour has it........Alonso's manager met with Christian Horner this weekend......

Wouldnt blame Alonso if he does move on really, to be fair, Ferrari havent done anything whatsoever for him in the last four years.

[blaney1977]

so deflated after that. when and where was the wrong turn made in developing this car? whats causing it? how do we keep doing this year after year? poor engineering? we looked so slow today it was painful. 4th fastest and mclaren catching us. wee need too arrive at spar having found half a second. a miracle in other words.

[aj17ay]

I have just heard that Honer met Luis Garcia (Alonso's agent) this weekend.. not sure what is this about...anybody get more details?

It's already been answered on another thread.

Luis Garcia met Horner for Carlos sainz jnr. Probably nothing to do with Alonso!

[Nurav]

Where actually were we in race?
Always saw Alonso in the distance behind romain in 1st half.
Even the broadcast didn't seem intrested to show Ferrari's.
We were 1 sec off in quali.but now we are way off in race also.
crap!

[bonzo]

so deflated after that. when and where was the wrong turn made in developing this car? whats causing it? how do we keep doing this year after year? poor engineering? we looked so slow today it was painful. 4th fastest and mclaren catching us. wee need too arrive at spar having found half a second. a miracle in other words.

The wrong turn was made when Ferrari changed the wind tunnel but kept Stefano.

[Domo-kun]

Rumour has it........Alonso's manager met with Christian Horner this weekend......
Wouldnt blame Alonso if he does move on really, to be fair, Ferrari havent done anything whatsoever for him in the last four years.

When we got Alonso, everyone praised him as the "supreme car developer" and now it's Ferrari's fault that he can't provide results?