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    Question Pirelli to be "very conservative" for 2014- Hembery

    Tuesday 1 Oktober at 08:35 : Oct.1 (GMM) The days where grands prix are spiced-up by deliberately heavily-degrading tyres could be over.

    Since the tyre-exploding crisis earlier this season, and the mid-year shift from steel to kevlar-belted tyres, Pirelli has also been taking more conservative compound choices to the races.

    Very recently, it has culminated in less exiting grands prix, and runaway championship leader Sebastian Vettel's now tight grip on the second half of the season.

    And for 2014, despite the radical engine rules shift, little will change on the tyre front.

    "We will take a very conservative strategy," Pirelli boss Paul Hembery told Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

    "We will take the worst-case simulation as the basis for the development of the tyre structure."

    Hembery argues Pirelli has been pushed in that direction by the teams, who are not overly willing to help with tyre development for 2014.

    Indeed, even the attempt to test with a representative car - Mercedes' current W04 - ended spectacularly badly for both the German team and F1's tyre supplier.

    Now, Pirelli is having to conduct 1000 kilometre tests with two-year old cars, such as the one with Red Bull in Barcelona recently.

    "It went well, as far as we can tell," said Hembery. "The car is three seconds faster than our Lotus test car.

    "But we are still expecting a journey into the unknown with the new 2014 cars."

    Even a post-race test in Brazil after the 2013 season finale has now been cancelled.

    "It (the tyre development situation) is because of the paranoia of the teams," said Hembery.

    "What we need in order to do our job, unfortunately doesn't fit with what the teams want. And nobody is coming up with a solution."

    There is also uncertainty about Pirelli's longer-term future in F1.

    The FIA has finally rubber-stamped the marque's presence on the grid beyond 2013, but a statement said that is just a "transition period" because Bernie Ecclestone and the teams had already agreed deals with Pirelli.

    "Pirelli has five year agreements signed with Ecclestone and the teams and expects that these are respected," said La Gazzetta dello Sport's Andrea Cremonesi.

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    Pirelli signs on to supply F1 tires through 2018

    Formula One is never without its controversies, and one of the major issues this year revolved around tires. Earlier in the season, Pirelli's rubber was prone to failure, but the Italian tire supplier worked with the individual teams to design new compounds and issue guidelines on how best to use them to avoid trouble.

    The measures seem to have done the trick, because the tires have held their own in the latter part of the season, and after negotiating individual agreements with each other the teams, the FIA has renewed Pirelli's contract to continue supplying the series with tires moving forward.

    Although the FIA hasn't revealed how long Pirelli's new contract is good for, F1 business site Pitpass.com reports that it will carry Pirelli through until 2018. It's anyone's guess as to what might happen after that, but if Pirelli continues to improve its compounds and keeps the relevant parties happy, it could carry on for some time.

    Goodyear continuously supplied tires to certain teams from 1959 through 1998, but that was when F1 allowed numerous rubber companies – including Bridgestone, Firestone, Michelin, Dunlop and others – to supply the shoes on which Formula One ran.




    http://www.autoblog.com/2013/10/01/p...-through-2018/


    Bad news for me, so the competition will continue to be more easily manipulated.

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    So it's 1 stop for every race then

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    Pirelli to be "very conservative" for 2014- Hembery
    Ya, infavour of RedBull / Merc (the money teams) for the next phew years then.

    F1 should start a new game without FIA / Bernie.

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    Rules are the same for everybody. Just needs to do better.
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    @ Golfsmith,

    I guess I am not alone in this "Bernie / FIA Control" thinking. I think the events that have unfolded for the past 4 years or so are seated in the Corruption in Bernie and the FIA which is His tool over Formula One. Notwithstanding, the Governing Body has allowed cases of Clear Cheating to take place with no penalty, is firm proof of this unethical, illegal behavior that is going on in Formula One. Those entrusted to enforce the Rules of the Sport have failed and there is No unwavering equality of play. The Sport is being guided by this illegal manipulation to allow certain teams to be favored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfsmith View Post
    Ya, infavour of RedBull / Merc (the money teams) for the next phew years then.

    F1 should start a new game without FIA / Bernie.
    FIA would still govern a new series, Bernie was voted to stay by the teams.

    Ferrari said the tyres are not the reason they are not doing good enough. No need to make excuses.
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    It seems that "With Every Answer, There is Yet Another Question". Nothing is real until proven so, beyond "a shadow of a doubt"! Whatever the situation, the fact is the Sport goes Forward and Teams seem to be ok with the Concorde Agreement. But it would be Foolish to think that the Sport is "ONLY" about Engineering. It is a very old and complex Business. As long as money comes in and the Teams are paid, the Sport of Formula One will go on. Enjoy the rest of the 2013 Season and look forward to the 2014 Season. Hey, Professional Wrestling is fun to watch too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankAlfa View Post
    It seems that "With Every Answer, There is Yet Another Question". Nothing is real until proven so, beyond "a shadow of a doubt"! Whatever the situation, the fact is the Sport goes Forward and Teams seem to be ok with the Concorde Agreement. But it would be Foolish to think that the Sport is "ONLY" about Engineering. It is a very old and complex Business. As long as money comes in and the Teams are paid, the Sport of Formula One will go on. Enjoy the rest of the 2013 Season and look forward to the 2014 Season. Hey, Professional Wrestling is fun to watch too!
    Ok F1 is full of cheaters, and whoever pays the most wins, this has been the way forever and everything Ferrari has achieved has been faked.

    I would give up with F1 if I believed what you say to be honest.
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    @ Greig,

    OK. Fair enough. Lets just stop debating it and enjoy the Formula One Racing Series. 2014' will be a great breath of fresh air. Those 1.6 Liter Turbocharged Engines will certainly "Spice" things up. Hope we all enjoy a winning season.

    Forza Ferrari!

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    Pirelli says it will be F1's tyre supplier for the next five years, despite new FIA tender process coming in to force autosport.com/news/report.ph…

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    F1Zone.net ‏@f1zone
    Alonso: "We have to be honest; the quality of the tyres is very on the limit." #f1

    F1Zone.net ‏@f1zone
    Alonso: ""If all the cars push 100% from the start of the lap, the tyres will not do 5km" #f1

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    Pirelli's response to Alonso: "I can only suggest he goes to ask the soon-to-be four-times champion how to get the best from the same tyres"

    When Vettel protest by tyres quality, earlier this season, Pirelli said he ask Alonso and Kimi... :

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIEK View Post
    Pirelli's response to Alonso: "I can only suggest he goes to ask the soon-to-be four-times champion how to get the best from the same tyres"

    When Vettel protest by tyres quality, earlier this season, Pirelli said he ask Alonso and Kimi... :
    Actually, when Vettel protested, Pirelli changed the tires!!

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    I see many people wish to be "Blind" to what has occurred in Formula One over the past 4 years regarding the Governing Body of Formula One. That is fine. I have no point to prove to these people. I will Continue to post my opinion and do my best to respect others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagi58 View Post
    Actually, when Vettel protested, Pirelli changed the tires!!


    I've seen it, in Spanish, on twitter and I could not wait to translate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagi58 View Post
    Actually, when Vettel protested, Pirelli changed the tires!!
    They changed them after Silverstone, when both Felipe and Alonso complained about them. As did most fans who had any sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by sagi58 View Post
    Actually, when Vettel protested, Pirelli changed the tires!!

    Too true Sagi.

    I still wonder how Pirelli got them so right for Vettel in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    They changed them after Silverstone, when both Felipe and Alonso complained about them. As did most fans who had any sense


    I still wonder if Silverstone was not orchestrated so everyone would welcome(demand) the change to the tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagi58 View Post
    Actually, when Vettel protested, Pirelli changed the tires!!

    That's rubbish! The rules state that all teams had to agree for their to be a change. Ferrari, Lotus and Force India vetoed the changes. It was only when had 3 tyre delaminations in a single race and the safety of the drivers was put into question did Pirelli change tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFromMilan View Post
    I still wonder if Silverstone was not orchestrated so everyone would welcome(demand) the change to the tyres.
    Yeah let's nearly kill Alonso to make everyone want the tyres changed, sounds like a cunning plan.....
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    I think Alonso is right to complain, I think Hembry should simply shut up and make a good F1 tire..then again, I think I should be a millionare

    Thing I dont get is for years Pirelli has made great tires for many different forms of racing and car mftr's with no problems. Why do they put themselves thru all of this abuse? Hardly makes sense. Buy a new 458..whats on it..Pirelli...Mabey Ferrari doesnt give Pirelli enough biz...

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