Japanese GP 2013 - the race

[stefa]

Some consolidation. Novak Djokovic won again

[Greig]

and those were the times

And we were branded cheats, sound familiar?

[stefa]

And we were branded cheats, sound familiar?

As I said last week, almost like defending superior RB form, there will always be speculation that someone is probably cheating because it is easier to call them cheaters than to accept that they are simply better!

[stefa]

And we were branded cheats, sound familiar?

No! We simply done better homework than the rest on the grid. As now is Red Bull doing!

[tifosi1993]

[tifosi1993]

Well done Pirelli.

[Katu]

good one

[Meiga]

What is there that makes you confused?!?!?!

Read your initial post very carefully....





... and explain to me how can Alonso pass himself on track!

[stefa]

Read your initial post very carefully....





... and explain to me how can Alonso pass himself on track!

That was obviously typing mistake
But than again if he could travel through time he could be able to do so!

[Schumiklub]

I don't know if it was discussed, but I just read on the German Motorsport Magazin that Massa ignored team orders:

http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/fo...-bleibt-ruhig/

[pluto]

who cares, it changed nothing. The car is so slow, it does not matter, its pathetic we are fighting with saubers while the top teams make us look like amateurs.

[Dino]

Still not sure which is the most worrying for us Tifosi !!

Ferrari; Alonso starts from 8th.place overtakes Massa from 5th. place and finishes 43.6 sec.ahead.[Including drive through]

Lotus; Kimi starts from 9th.place,and finishes 37.4 sec. behind 4th. place starter Grosjean.

[Winter]

Still not sure which is the most worrying for us Tifosi !!

Ferrari; Alonso starts from 8th.place overtakes Massa from 5th. place and finishes 43.6 sec.ahead.[Including drive through]

Lotus; Kimi starts from 9th.place,and finishes 37.4 sec. behind 4th. place starter Grosjean.

?

[Unbannable II]

?

He is confused ;)

[vcs316]

Ferrari will let Massa's team-order snub slide

Ferrari says Felipe Massa will not be punished despite ignoring a team order to let Fernando Alonso pass early in the race.

On lap eight Alonso was on Massa's tail and race engineer Rob Smedley came on the pit-to-car radio to tell his driver: "Multifunction strategy A. Multifunction strategy A. Now please". After the race Massa admitted it was a team order, but said he was not willing to sacrifice the place, even though both drivers later lost a position to Nico Hulkenberg at the first pit stops.

"It was an instruction," he said. "I am never happy with an instruction."

Massa said he had talked to his team about it after the race and that Alonso passed him fair and square on lap 20 anyway. He added that his race was ruined when he was caught speeding in the pit lane.

"We already discussed it, but for sure it was an unfortunate race today because of the drive-through. It was not an instruction when he overtook me on the track. The instruction came much earlier."

Team principal Stefano Domenicali said Massa's display of disobedience would not change the way the team treats him during his final four races as a Ferrari driver.

"At the end of the day Fernando overtook him on the track," he said. "For sure Felipe is trying to be as quick as possible and I understand his feelings. He will find the team totally supporting him up until the end of the season with no problem.

"Today we brought home what was the maximum and there is no story to create around these things because there are other things we need to focus on, including how we are going to improve the car up to the end of the championship."

Alonso also brushed off the incident.

"We cannot make a big thing about this," he said. "We are racing and whatever we do today, we finished more or less in the same positions because we could not achieve anything more. I don't know exactly what happened, but there are zero problems.

"It would be nice to go back to the old days of Ferrari, where we were fighting for first and second, and then decide who wins. Or do what Red Bull does, when one car does two stops and one car does three stops, and they finish first and second. This is a much easier life.

"In our position we are always trying to do our maximum. I am trying to do my maximum, Felipe is trying to do his maximum and the team is trying to do its maximum. Let's try to do so at the next four races."

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

[Senna4Ever]

Massa said he had talked to his team about it after the race and that Alonso passed him fair and square on lap 20 anyway.

Alonso also brushed off the incident.

"We cannot make a big thing about this," he said. "We are racing and whatever we do today, we finished more or less in the same positions because we could not achieve anything more. I don't know exactly what happened, but there are zero problems.

"It would be nice to go back to the old days of Ferrari, where we were fighting for first and second, and then decide who wins. Or do what Red Bull does, when one car does two stops and one car does three stops, and they finish first and second. This is a much easier life.

"In our position we are always trying to do our maximum. I am trying to do my maximum, Felipe is trying to do his maximum and the team is trying to do its maximum. Let's try to do so at the next four races."

Don't know why to make a big thing about it anyway.

And I'm really glad how Alonso acts like a fair sportman meanwhile ... very down to earth and grown up ...

[Ste]

Sounds like Felipe's getting bitter like Rubens already...

[stefa]

Don't know why to make a big thing about it anyway.

And I'm really glad how Alonso acts like a fair sportman meanwhile ... very down to earth and grown up ...

[Senna4Ever]

@Tifosi1993
mille grazie

fotografia fantastica ... Mi piace moltissimo
Grande Grande Grande ...

[redsteph]

Don't know why to make a big thing about it anyway.

And I'm really glad how Alonso acts like a fair sportman meanwhile ... very down to earth and grown up ...

I think Alonso is being realistic about his title chances. What difference would it have made if Felipe had let him past?

Also as team orders are allowed why did Rob use code anyway?

[redsteph]

2002 and 2004 we had a car far far ahead of anyone.

and 2001 - both titles won in Hungary

[Katu]

i'm happy that Fernando passed Felipe himself, now can we put that to rest that Felipe is Fernando's b**** and Fernando can't pass him without team orders

[sagi58]

i'm happy that Fernando passed Felipe himself, now can we put that to rest that Felipe is Fernando's b**** and Fernando can't pass him without team orders

Brava!!

[radosav]

I think Alonso is being realistic about his title chances. What difference would it have made if Felipe had let him past?

Also as team orders are allowed why did Rob use code anyway?

Codes make it look like 'cold war secret agents' thing !
Like ‘ Possible Hindenburg situation with left rear ‘ - rear left tyre will go boom

[Greig]

i'm happy that Fernando passed Felipe himself, now can we put that to rest that Felipe is Fernando's b**** and Fernando can't pass him without team orders

And who would say that?

[sagi58]

And who would say that?

Unfortunately, any F1 fan who doesn't recognize the wisdom in have a 1 - 2 philosophy!

[Suzie]

Sounds like Felipe's getting bitter like Rubens already...

Yes maybe he will also threaten to write a TELL-ALL book about it.




...Or maybe not.

[DIEK]

Alonso coming out of the suzuka circuit, video:

http://instagram.com/p/faOiidwato/

[GamD]

Sounds like Felipe's getting bitter like Rubens already...

Wait till Alonso goes, he will be selling secrets for immunity.

[Greig]

Felipe said he was going to race for himself, and has done so. He was up front about it and stuck to his word. I am not sure that makes him bitter as he is just trying to get another drive to stay in F1. Does not seem PR wise at least that Ferrari are really that bothered.