F14-T- Development & News

[tifosi1993]

Jerez (30/01/2014)

[Tony]

I'm wondering how much of an issue traction will really be this year given that the cars wont be going flat out for most of the race but instead trying to conserve fuel... I think most of the fuel saving will be granted through lighter throttle application coming out of corners which should mean a team with lesser traction can get away with it to a certain extent?

[f300v10]

From what I understand fuel saving is normally done by getting off the throttle earlier in the braking zones and coasting. If you delay getting on the throttle at corner exit, you loose speed all the way to the next corner. If you coast at the end you are saving full throttle fuel usage, and the time lost delta is smaller. With the higher torque of the turbo/ERS engines I'm affraid low speed traction will be as important as ever. I always had a feeling that most of Ferrari's traction issues for the last few years was down to getting less downforce from the exhaust blown diffuser effect. I really hope that with that gone we can be more competative in this area.

[Tony]

From what I understand fuel saving is normally done by getting off the throttle earlier in the braking zones and coasting. If you delay getting on the throttle at corner exit, you loose speed all the way to the next corner. If you coast at the end you are saving full throttle fuel usage, and the time lost delta is smaller. With the higher torque of the turbo/ERS engines I'm affraid low speed traction will be as important as ever. I always had a feeling that most of Ferrari's traction issues for the last few years was down to getting less downforce from the exhaust blown diffuser effect. I really hope that with that gone we can be more competative in this area.

hmmm thanks for your explanation.... we'll have to wait and see if Ferrari are in fact struggling or if it was just a set-up issue then.... let's hope it's the latter!

[tifosi1993]

Jerez (30/01/2014)







via Sutton

[tifosi1993]

High Res:

[giodap]

Ferrari 059/3
It has emerged that Ferrari may have to change the design of the turbo housing on the Ferrari 059/3 power unit after a query over its compliance with the technical regulations was raised. The rule in question was a late addition to the 2014 Formula 1 Technical Regulations which states:
5.18.5 Measures must be taken to ensure that in the event of failure of the turbine wheel any resulting significant debris is contained within the car.
Two of the three engine manufacturers have apparently taken one approach while Ferrari feels that it has met the regulation by a different method. In some reports Renault is set to complain about the design but Rob White of Renaultsport F1 claims this is not the case; “I don’t know anything about the Ferrari so I couldn’t be unhappy about it even if I wanted to be.” However he admits that he is aware of the situation “There is a technical regulation that requires us to contain the debris in the event of a turbine wheel failure and in addition there was a technical directive published on the subject regarding correspondence between Charlie Whiting and Ferrari, but there was nothing in it about what Ferrari was or wasn’t doing so I don’t know what it is. For us its a matter of both technical regulation compliance and assuring the safety of the turbo in operation.”
Racecar Engineering understands that while Renault and Mercedes interpreted 5.18.5 as meaning that the turbocharger needs an additional ballistic cover (which weighs around 3kg) Ferrari has not. Instead it has designed the turbine housing in such a way that if the turbine wheel fails the turbo housing itself contains any debris. Whilst not a breach of the regulations it is thought that not everyone in the F1 engine community is convinced about this approach, and there are some that feel that the minimum weight of the cars needs to be raised by around 4kg to allow for the installation of ballistic covers. Ferrari apparently is not keen on this.

[giodap]

now that sounds like ferrari being innovative and pushing the boundarys of the rules to me!

[Ferrari Man]

I read a post yesterday i think where this was put to bed and we were in the clear.....

[giodap]

seems like luca marmorini is pushing things to the limit i wander if renault and merc can copy this weight saving tactic?

[giodap]

Gary Anderson talking about Ferraris downshifts today

The Ferrari F1 F14 T sounds a lot different to the other cars under braking. Why is this?

It is incredibly smooth on the downchanges. Everyone else is blipping the throttle a lot more and it's difficult to say why the Ferrari is so smooth in comparison.

All the cars have a zero torque loss upshift, seamless shift, but nobody has done that on the downshifts. With the ERS recharging from the rear wheels and the need to downchange under braking, it now might be a good idea.

We don't know for sure, but perhaps Ferrari is ahead of the game with such technology.

[RedPassion]

Ferrari 059/3
It has emerged that Ferrari may have to change the design of the turbo housing on the Ferrari 059/3 power unit after a query over its compliance with the technical regulations was raised. The rule in question was a late addition to the 2014 Formula 1 Technical Regulations which states:
5.18.5 Measures must be taken to ensure that in the event of failure of the turbine wheel any resulting significant debris is contained within the car.
Two of the three engine manufacturers have apparently taken one approach while Ferrari feels that it has met the regulation by a different method. In some reports Renault is set to complain about the design but Rob White of Renaultsport F1 claims this is not the case; “I don’t know anything about the Ferrari so I couldn’t be unhappy about it even if I wanted to be.” However he admits that he is aware of the situation “There is a technical regulation that requires us to contain the debris in the event of a turbine wheel failure and in addition there was a technical directive published on the subject regarding correspondence between Charlie Whiting and Ferrari, but there was nothing in it about what Ferrari was or wasn’t doing so I don’t know what it is. For us its a matter of both technical regulation compliance and assuring the safety of the turbo in operation.”
Racecar Engineering understands that while Renault and Mercedes interpreted 5.18.5 as meaning that the turbocharger needs an additional ballistic cover (which weighs around 3kg) Ferrari has not. Instead it has designed the turbine housing in such a way that if the turbine wheel fails the turbo housing itself contains any debris. Whilst not a breach of the regulations it is thought that not everyone in the F1 engine community is convinced about this approach, and there are some that feel that the minimum weight of the cars needs to be raised by around 4kg to allow for the installation of ballistic covers. Ferrari apparently is not keen on this.

To me it looks like the same lobbying by RB pushing to weigh raising,ibelieve they need it desperately.

[Nero Horse]

Does anyone know whether Ferrari is using epitrochodial crankshaft this year? There was a rumor last year that they might be using it in this year's turbo engine.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/f1/...14-season.html
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/56516639...Patent-7185557

[f1tomi8]

Old diffusore

New

[Nova]

Everyones making comments on the designs, thats cool, but we may see quite a few changes between now and 1st race.
I wouldnt be surprised if we see Ferrari show up w/a different nose at some point. Great pix by the way.

[Stormsearcher]

I believe this might have been the source of our cars design inspiration.

PLATYPUS.JPG22823.3.jpg

[stefa]

Still F14 T to me does not look nice, not to say it is ugly, but looking at the pictures from track I must admit that car looks...

[Jacquesvw]

Does anyone know whether Ferrari is using epitrochodial crankshaft this year? There was a rumor last year that they might be using it in this year's turbo engine.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/f1/...14-season.html
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/56516639...Patent-7185557

I also heard the rumour, but I doubt the FIA approved it.

[S1000RR]

Still don't like the nose but the rear is very beautiful

[tifosi1993]

Jerez (31/01/2014)












via Sutton

[S1000RR]

The red colour is really nice!

[wacc]

Near the left sidepod outlet they have new inlet. From there on there is some pipe visible probably a temporary fix of insuficient cooling.

[RedPassion]

Near the left sidepod outlet they have new inlet. From there on there is some pipe visible probably a temporary fix of insuficient cooling.

Matt Somerfeld says it is for aerodynamics,to promote downwash.I think he is right, in that zone it is useless for cooling to have something like that.

[medeni73]

.@InsideFerrari add a duct at the tail of the Sidepod/Downwash ramp to encourage airflow to move into the coke bottle

and its just on one side of the car so it really means its something not problem-related but performance-related

[tifosi1993]

.@InsideFerrari add a duct at the tail of the Sidepod/Downwash ramp to encourage airflow to move into the coke bottle

and its just on one side of the car so it really means its something not problem-related but performance-related

Yep.

[OSS EL BOSS]

Red flag caused by Adrian Sutil.

[tifosi1993]

Red flag caused by Adrian Sutil.

Wrong thread!

[OSS EL BOSS]

Wrong thread!

Oh sorry.Thought I am in the testing thred.
thanks

[tifosi1993]

Oh sorry.Thought I am in the testing thred.
thanks

No problem.

[hrc5555]

I can't wait to see solution for new front wing, reversed rear suspension and monkey seat!