F14-T- Development & News

[stefa]

The F14T is a wolf in sheep's clothing

It is not that I don't won't to believe in that, but... seeing is believing!

[FerrariF60]

It is not that I don't won't to believe in that, but... seeing is believing!

i'm with you on this one mate; but clearly Ferrari have NOT shown anything special yet which tells me there MUST be something cooking back in Maranello, if you know what i mean.

i think that deep down Ferrari are quietly optimistic for this season and i personally think taht coming up in the next two tests in Bahrain we'll start seeing more new performance bits added to the FERRRI and with a final package brought to Australia

i think that this will be OUR YEAR MATE...

[Aberracus]

The F14T is a wolf in sheep's clothing

Great !

Goole Translated


Technology analysis Ferrari F14
The trick with the high-tech mini coolers
Ferrari built the F14 T a distinctive car. The ducks nose is the new red goddess his face. But you must not stay that way. The outstanding feature of the new Ferrari are his little side boxes. We tell you in technical analysis, how the trick works.

Ferrari is not counted in 2014 among the favorites. Despite the first-class driver pairing and, in spite of recruits James Allison and Dirk de Beer in the design office. Somehow you dare Ferrari on the motor less than Mercedes and Renault. What perhaps also because of the fact that his Maranello drive unit hidden until today.

There is no photo of it and not even a special name. The new Ferrari V6 turbo and its hybrid drive hot profanely 059/3 System. This is the continuation of the internal model designation for the engines. In contrast to its competitors in the words hybrid or Energy dive not to. Ferrari tries only moderately to bridge the gap to series.

Ahead there was a lot of bad news about Ferrari's new power unit. Too heavy, too thirsty, too fragile. The reality was quite different. Ferrari reeled by Mercedes at Jerez the most mileage from. Fernando Alonso managed 115 laps with the largest daily quota of all drivers. The new V6 turbo made a very healthy impression. And the Italians are right on schedule. Also the car comes unusually therefore. It is not the continuation of the conservative line of development in recent years.

The Nose: broad rather than sharp
The nose of the Ferrari F14 T was a surprise. She falls from the front steeply down and then runs at a moderate angle to the front wings. Instead of cutting off the chassis front and dranzuhängen a thin crash structure, the nose remains wide. Between the wing and nose creates a wide slot that looks like a giant trunk. Some also say vacuum cleaner.

As Mercedes put Ferrari important that the front wing is not disturbed by the nose. Therefore no overlap. Two Aprons channel left and right and soothe the flow under the nose.

Fears Ferrari do not bring enough air under the car through, are not shared by technical director James Allison. He knows the other extreme. The Lotus -nose with the unequally long tusks was still in his tenure. Allison does not believe that the world title will be decided by the shape of the nose: "There are many solutions that work, the differences are minimal.."

His call "the car must be driveable" shows where the journey at Ferrari goes. The short nose ensures that the Ferrari F14 T is easy to balance on the front wing. The first test in Jerez gave a positive message. The numbers that produced the refurbished wind tunnel in Maranello, are reproduced on the racetrack.

Ferrari F14 T with mini side boxes
The side boxes fall in the new Ferrari immediately apparent. Not only because the Ferrari slats around the cooling inlets pervades the only team to the cockpit. The sidepods are more delicate than any other cars. This reduces the frontal area, air resistance and fuel consumption.

The panel appears early on the way down and inward. A new cooling concept makes it possible. Ferrari admits to have something special under the red Kevlar skin, but does not say what. Is rumored to be high-tech in the American Radiator Company Mezzo Technologies act.

The technology company from Baton Rouge specializes in the construction of microscopically thin lines. With the same cooling capacity to be used 15 percent less area. So you can save space and weight. So the expensive special designs are not only in racing but also for example in a new Boeing Military drone with hydrogen drive for use.

The coolers have been around for quite some time in the offer, but until now no one had accessed. There was some doubt about the reliability. Ferrari has dispelled these doubts. The special cooler should already have been in the last race in 2013 in use.

Cooling: Large outlets in the rear
The second cooling inlet on the airbox is gone. He led in the past to the transmission oil cooler. As small as the cooling inlets are at the front of the sidepods, so big the holes are in the rear. Compared to Red Bull estimated twice the volume.

The hot air escapes around the tailpipe and left and right on the front points of articulation of the rear axle. The openings are relatively high, so that Ferrari could pull together around the trim to a nice bottle neck down. There are no cooling fins on the panel or other openings.

Only on the last day of testing in Jerez let the engineers in the rear a small additional hole cut in the fairing. Connected thereto is a tube, which targeted the cooling air led to a particular aggregate.

The wings: Only test objects
Compared to Red Bull or Mercedes Ferrari front wing looks like a rush job. Below are three elements above two. And an end plate with three windows. As sure is something else to Melbourne. At the front axle is in keeping with the pullrod system in the third year faithful. You now know their specific flow conditions. McLaren had failed because 2013.

The rear wing is similar to that of last year. Front end plates are double slot, below they carry seven fringes. At the rear part there as of 2013, the two vertical Anstückelungen. The rear wing is based on two widely spaced stilts. In between, no additional wing is to discover, unlike other teams. Ferrari has announced new wing but already for Bahrain. What we have seen in Jerez, was only a test carrier.

The tail: A construction site
At the rear, Ferrari has shown nothing yet. Everything is standard. The diffuser comes with only six channels and a bar on the rear edge. The rear brake ducts look even relatively simple. The control arm of the rear axle are not even disguised as a wing profile.

Ferrari spreads the front wishbone less far forward than other teams, which also has to do with the ideal position of the air outlets. They are the Ferrari accordingly far behind. As close as possible to the place where the most heat is produced. Shortly before the outlets are the exhaust manifold. The emerging there from the sidepods air promotes the flow on the diffuser roof.

Conclusion: The new Ferrari F14 T is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Written By Michael Schmidt on AMUS

[Senna4Ever]

Let's wait and see how much wolf is in there

Today good news/rumours/analyses tomorrow you'll find some negative ones (--> Scarbs about our cooling of wires issue)
Melb will tell us more ...

meanwhile I'll hope to enjoy last two tests without big issues, many driven km and nice pictures to collect ...

[Aberracus]

We really drove 115 laps with alonzo last day, thats much more than any other car for any given day.

[Kyss4k]

We really drove 115 laps with alonzo last day, thats much more than any other car for any given day.

Mercedes did more the last day. They just splitted used both their drivers.

[Kingdom Hearts]

It is not that I don't won't to believe in that, but... seeing is believing!

I'm with you, faith in the team like every start of the season?, yes, fairytales?, no.

[DIEK]

You posted this video in the wrong thread. It's got nothing to do with Ferrari or the development of the F14-T.

Are you sure Ferrari don't put the same suspension in a short time at the F14-T?

[Nero Horse]

Are you sure Ferrari don't put the same suspension in a short time at the F14-T?

Hmmm...maybe you're right...but maybe we won't even need it, hopefully we've got our own little tricks.

[stefa]

i'm with you on this one mate; but clearly Ferrari have NOT shown anything special yet which tells me there MUST be something cooking back in Maranello, if you know what i mean.

i think that deep down Ferrari are quietly optimistic for this season and i personally think taht coming up in the next two tests in Bahrain we'll start seeing more new performance bits added to the FERRRI and with a final package brought to Australia

i think that this will be OUR YEAR MATE...

I am silently optimistic more than in previous years... Hope this one we really get it!

[F1NAC]

even if we start good we need to be constant at car developing, we need some strong developments, similar to 2010 last time, since then we suck at developing the car especially after summer break. Come on Ferrari give us something this year what we were waiting for a long time..

[Rob]

But, now with new people come in, new processes etc etc, and windtunnel up and running and so far the track and tunnel data are correct and the same. I think our development path should be good and consistent.

[Nero Horse]

even if we start good we need to be constant at car developing, we need some strong developments, similar to 2010 last time, since then we suck at developing the car especially after summer break. Come on Ferrari give us something this year what we were waiting for a long time..

We don't "suck" at developing the car, we just had major problems with the wind tunnel and that was the main reason why the team couldn't make good progress during previous seasons. If you don't have a good working wind tunnel in F1 then it's like a sprinter trying to run 100m with only one shoe. But hopefully now all the wind tunnel bugs have been fixed and we'll be able to bring efficient updates throughout the season.

[Nova]

I have faith in this team always. At the start of this season and
every season for umpteen years...no, I aint giving that away.
Go Ferrari.

[Ferris]

Don't be surprised next week if Alonso is given all the driving duties. This is not in the teams control and wont be a terrible thing for the team but it was certainly more useful to have them both contributing to the feedback on the car.

I am just trying to get some rumours confirmed that Kimi wont be testing in Bahrain due to some physical constraints...

[anakin]

Don't be surprised next week if Alonso is given all the driving duties. This is not in the teams control and wont be a terrible thing for the team but it was certainly more useful to have them both contributing to the feedback on the car.

I am just trying to get some rumours confirmed that Kimi wont be testing in Bahrain due to some physical constraints...

if that is true. kimi will be driving exclusively during the 3rd test? when and where is it?

[Ferris]

if that is true. kimi will be driving exclusively during the 3rd test? when and where is it?

If he is fit then yes this would be fair.

I think both remaining tests are in Bahrain, but I must admit I have not looked beyond this upcoming test.

[Rob]

I know isnt F14-T news, but i wasnt going to make new thread for this...

MORE RENAULT TROUBLE FOR TORO ROSSO AT MISANO
Thursday 13 February at 07:35 : Feb.13 (GMM) It seems Renault is yet to solve all its troubles with the new turbo V6 'power unit'.

After a disastrous Jerez test for the French engine supplier and its partners - notably world champions Red Bull - Renault appeared to have taken a step forward when it emerged the new Lotus had run almost trouble-free during its more recent track debut.

But another Renault-powered car, the 2014 Toro Rosso, has been back in action even since the Lotus debut for a similar 'filming' day, allowed under the regulations for promotional purposes with non-competitive Pirelli tyres.

However, there are reports the STR9 managed only 70 kilometres at the Misano circuit in Italy, littered with "repeated" stoppages for battery and software faults.

http://www.onestopstrategy.com/daily...at+Misano.html

[mirafiori]

You do have to feel sorry for the Renault engine cars.

[Kingdom Hearts]

Don't be surprised next week if Alonso is given all the driving duties. This is not in the teams control and wont be a terrible thing for the team but it was certainly more useful to have them both contributing to the feedback on the car.

I am just trying to get some rumours confirmed that Kimi wont be testing in Bahrain due to some physical constraints...

You can't come here and drop a bomb like that without any source or explanation.

[Unbannable II]

Don't be surprised next week if Alonso is given all the driving duties. This is not in the teams control and wont be a terrible thing for the team but it was certainly more useful to have them both contributing to the feedback on the car.

I am just trying to get some rumours confirmed that Kimi wont be testing in Bahrain due to some physical constraints...

Uhm, where did u hear this?

[Module]

Don't be surprised next week if Alonso is given all the driving duties. This is not in the teams control and wont be a terrible thing for the team but it was certainly more useful to have them both contributing to the feedback on the car.

I am just trying to get some rumours confirmed that Kimi wont be testing in Bahrain due to some physical constraints...

Do you have any source or reason for speculating? Can't find anything about this on any forum

[Ferris]

You can't come here and drop a bomb like that without any source or explanation.

I thought that was what this community was all about. Providing information as soon as we had it. I qualified it by stating I was trying to confirm the rumour further. My source is not some media outlet and the explanation would not be good for the source who told me about the issue with Kimi.

He was the same person who advised me the Kimi deal had been secured weeks before the media confirmed it.

As I am pretty new here though, relative to others, if what I have divulged and how I divulged it is not proper then the mods should let me know and I wont do it again in the future.

As you can no doubt expect, the issue (unconfirmed by Ferrari at this stage) is to do with his back and apparently the injury flared up while training so they are not sure if he will be ok to test in Bahrain.

Can I ask the mods to PM me as to the proper approach and level of qualification needed in order to report information on the team.

Thanks.

[DIEK]

McLaren style wishbone wings to be tested by other teams in Bahrain



Post Jerez, one of the biggest Formula 1 technical talking points has been the clever rear suspension solution seen on the back of the McLaren MP4-9. Now, a number of teams are expected to try their own versions of the concept.

The ‘wishbone wings’ were described by our tech corespondent Matthew Somerfield: “The suspension layout utilised by McLaren is another great interpretation of the regulations with the rear suspension elements made to replicate the outgoing beam wing in terms of the way the airflow operates in that region.”

“The idea is to simulate the same flow pattern that allowed the beam wing to interact with the airflow structures generated by both the diffuser and upper rear wing elements.” Read full analysis here>>>

Rival teams have shown interest in the concept, and it is expected that different versions of the solution will be trialed on some of the 2014 cars when testing resumes in Bahrain next week.

Williams engineer Rod Nelson said after Jerez, “They have been quite ‘cute’ with the regulations, the rear part of the wishbones have a kind of dog leg in them so that they can kind of get these surfaces on the trailing edges. I would imagine that they are trying to make the diffuser work better.”

“There are a few bits and pieces [from other teams] that I am sure will be in the wind tunnel. McLaren’s rear suspension is a stand-out example of that and if we think the FIA will deem that to be legal, then we would be remiss to not try it in the tunnel,” explained Nelson.

Ferrari technical guru James Allison said, “I haven’t seen [the wishbone wings] in the flesh, but I would like to see a bit more of it because it does interest me.” (GP247)

Subbed by AJN.



Read more http://grandprix247.com/2014/02/13/m...ed-in-bahrain/

[Module]

I thought that was what this community was all about. Providing information as soon as we had it. I qualified it by stating I was trying to confirm the rumour further. My source is not some media outlet and the explanation would not be good for the source who told me about the issue with Kimi.

He was the same person who advised me the Kimi deal had been secured weeks before the media confirmed it.

As I am pretty new here though, relative to others, if what I have divulged and how I divulged it is not proper then the mods should let me know and I wont do it again in the future.

As you can no doubt expect, the issue (unconfirmed by Ferrari at this stage) is to do with his back and apparently the injury flared up while training so they are not sure if he will be ok to test in Bahrain.

Can I ask the mods to PM me as to the proper approach and level of qualification needed in order to report information on the team.

Thanks.

It's not what you wrote but you need to give some info on from where it is or why you think so. As you say now you were told by someone you believe and that's sufficient info.

Ferrari posted this today: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/sim...ry-stroll-kimi

Doesn't read or look like he wouldn't be able to test in a week.

[Suzie]

I thought that was what this community was all about. Providing information as soon as we had it. I qualified it by stating I was trying to confirm the rumour further. My source is not some media outlet and the explanation would not be good for the source who told me about the issue with Kimi.

He was the same person who advised me the Kimi deal had been secured weeks before the media confirmed it.

As I am pretty new here though, relative to others, if what I have divulged and how I divulged it is not proper then the mods should let me know and I wont do it again in the future.

As you can no doubt expect, the issue (unconfirmed by Ferrari at this stage) is to do with his back and apparently the injury flared up while training so they are not sure if he will be ok to test in Bahrain.

Can I ask the mods to PM me as to the proper approach and level of qualification needed in order to report information on the team.

Thanks.

Hi Ferris - it's more than fine to post information about the team, people just like to have some proof or explanation to go along with it, especially as during off-season there are so many rumours. And obviously your comment about Kimi is quite big news for Ferrari, if true. Any concerns then you can PM a mod any time

[Kiwi Nick]

It's not what you wrote but you need to give some info on from where it is or why you think so. As you say now you were told by someone you believe and that's sufficient info.

Ferrari posted this today: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/sim...ry-stroll-kimi

Doesn't read or look like he wouldn't be able to test in a week.

It is good t see Kimi in the simulator at the factory. I guess that means that Nando can skip that work this season like Massa said he did last year. I knew there was a reason they rehired Kimi!

[Suzie]

Did Massa say Nando 'skipped' the work? All season? Did he?

[Sianellen]

Did Massa say Nando 'skipped' the work? All season? Did he?

Amazing what people will make a comment mean to suit their agendas isn't it.

[Ferris]

Hi Ferris - it's more than fine to post information about the team, people just like to have some proof or explanation to go along with it, especially as during off-season there are so many rumours. And obviously your comment about Kimi is quite big news for Ferrari, if true. Any concerns then you can PM a mod any time

OK. Thanks all for the direction here. Much appreciated.

At this stage all I have heard is that the next test may be doubtful for Kimi and that it is to do with his back, but that to me suggests it could be a minor issue and not one necessitating another surgery.

Again the contact is the same person who confirmed Kimi signing for Ferrari weeks before Ferrari officially confirmed it so I thought the source was good enough to quote here with you all.

Hopefully he is very wrong.