F14-T- Development & News

[OSS EL BOSS]

I got the feeling that Ferrari might be preparing a surprise for the other teams in terms of engine power, but let's wait and see.

[Nero Horse]

I got the feeling that Ferrari might be preparing a surprise for the other teams in terms of engine power, but let's wait and see.

That would be so awesome! I hope you're right.

[Rob]

Setup work for Kimi.

Circuit: Sakhir circuit – 5.412 km
Driver: Kimi Raikkonen
Car: Ferrari F14 T
Weather: air temperature 21/27°C, track temperature 22/32 °C. Sunny.
Laps/Kms completed: 44/238
Best time: 1:37.476

Third day of testing for Scuderia Ferrari and the first for Kimi Raikkonen, back at the wheel of F14 T number 7.

The day began with further aerodynamic work, as well as some set-up evaluation and practice starts from the pit lane. After 12 laps, the team encountered a problem with the data connection to the telemetry, which involved recalibrating and reactivating the system. The programme then resumed and ran more effectively in the afternoon as the team continued to concentrate mainly on set-up work.

“We didn’t do as many kilometres as we had been hoping for because even though the problem was a minor one, it still took a while to fix” – said Kimi to www.ferrari.com – “It shows how complicated these new systems are, but in the afternoon we managed to run consistently. It was useful in terms of getting used to the environment inside the cockpit after the Jerez test and to check some settings relating to the balance of the car.”

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/set....yrHeplJH.dpuf

[Rob]

Fry: “Our objective is the same”

Sakhir, 21 February –Third day of testing for Scuderia Ferrari at the Sakhir circuit in Bahrain. A telemetry glitch slowed Kimi Raikkonen’s progress in the morning, but in the second part of the day, the Finn managed to put in a good number of laps. There were no particular concerns in the Ferrari camp, as the problem was identified and solved. Director of Engineering, Pat Fry had this to say at the end of the day. “Today was a bit frustrating, because we were stopped for quite a time with a small but tricky problem. We knew that sooner or later we would have to deal with some problems and that was what happened. These things happen with a new car; some things that seem difficult turn out to be easy and others that appear simple get more complicated and we are still learning.”

However, the team still aims to get through the planned programme, trying to make the most of the time available tomorrow. “We will try to do our utmost to acquire the mass of data we want. Ideally, we don’t want to change our operational plan for next week’s test.” Talking to journalists, Fry was asked the usual question about the state of play among the teams. “It’s hard to say where we are. We knew we’d be facing a very complicated winter with a lot of unknown factors. That was the case, but in Maranello we have done a lot of work and I can see that it’s difficult for everyone to move forward on the development front with so many new systems and so little time to test them.”

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/fry....Z0cnW8SJ.dpuf

[Kiwi Nick]

Making sense out of the lap times of seasoned drivers like Kimi and Nando in testing is very, very difficult. You need to have access to the microdata; sector times, sector times by setting, top speed, top speed by setting, corner entry and exit speeds for every corner and setting, and so on. Drivers at this level are very good at isolating their efforts to certain features of the track and will rarely, if ever, string two full efforts together, much less a full flying lap.

So nearly as I can tell, Ferrari have not brought out anything other than the most pedestrian front wing, have only used the Monkey Seat for a few laps and have only used an evolved diffuser for a couple of stints.

What this means is that the only folks who know how the car is actually performing are in the Ferrari garage.

[Ferrari Man]

Making sense out of the lap times of seasoned drivers like Kimi and Nando in testing is very, very difficult. You need to have access to the microdata; sector times, sector times by setting, top speed, top speed by setting, corner entry and exit speeds for every corner and setting, and so on. Drivers at this level are very good at isolating their efforts to certain features of the track and will rarely, if ever, string two full efforts together, much less a full flying lap.

So nearly as I can tell, Ferrari have not brought out anything other than the most pedestrian front wing, have only used the Monkey Seat for a few laps and have only used an evolved diffuser for a couple of stints.

What this means is that the only folks who know how the car is actually performing are in the Ferrari garage.

Very true. there are so many variables it s next to impossible for those on the outside to make any comparisons or say we 're good here or bad there. The team need to work their own programme as they see fit.

[tifosi1993]

Sakhir International Circuit, Bahrain (22/02/2014)

[Rob]

Set-up work and practice starts for Kimi

Sakhir, 22 February –Final day of testing for Scuderia Ferrari and the other ten Formula 1 teams, at the Sakhir circuit in Bahrain. Kimi Raikkonen had a trouble free morning in the F14 T and so it was quite productive and allowed the team to make up for some of the time lost yesterday.

This morning the workload focused on set-up, trying various options, while using different tyre compounds, to be precise the Medium and Soft. There was also time for practice starts, something that has always been a strong point for the Ferrari cars. After completing 52 laps, Kimi was third fastest in a time of 1.36.718 at the point when the team had a short break for lunch.

Once again the weather has been perfect in terms of temperature and, like yesterday, the wind has not been strong enough to cause any problems. Plenty of work still to come for everyone this afternoon.

Best time

Laps
1. Mercedes – Nico Rosberg 1:33.283 39
2. McLaren – Jenson Button 1:34.957 39
3. Ferrari – Kimi Raikkonen 1:36.718 52
4. Williams – Felipe Nasr 1:39.036 55
5. Force India – Sergio Perez 1:39.258 19
6. Red Bull – Daniel Ricciardo 1:39.837 14
7. Toro Rosso – Jean-Eric Vergne 1:41.784 6
8. Lotus – Pastor Maldonado 1:41.880 18
9. Caterham – Marcus Ericsson 1:45.094 4
10. Marussia – Jules Bianchi - 2
11. Sauber – Adrian Sutil -
- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/set....EW3Se7N9.dpuf

[Rob]

Raikkonen: “Concentrating on our own work”

Sakhir, 22 February –The second pre-season test has come to an end and Kimi Raikkonen shares his thoughts on his two days at the wheel of the Ferrari F14 T. “I still can’t say how quick we are as it’s just the second test of the season and it’s hard to have an idea of what the order is among the teams. One thing’s certain, the more we get to know the car, the quicker we will be. I think that even after the next test in Bahrain we won’t have the answers and we will have to wait until we are in Australia to understand more. The car is still a laboratory and there are various things we have to finish learning about and to test. I have to say there is still a lot of work to do before we can say we are a hundred percent ready.”
The Finn is no more concerned about his rivals than usual. “Certainly the Mercedes powered teams have gone well here, but we had our programme and there’s nothing to say that those who were quickest were on the same one as us. As I’ve said, this is a test and in testing you try things out and it won’t get serious until Melbourne onwards. We are not interested at the moment in chasing performance, rather we are looking for reliability to ensure we finish the opening races without any problems. Even the laps we did on the softer tyres were not aimed at performance, but at evaluating what set-up to use for this type of tyre. I’m not concerned about the long runs the others did, as we are working on our own programme and we plan to do long runs next week.”

The Finn’s test ended with a crash, five minutes from the end of the session. “At the end, it wasn’t a technical problem, I just spun at turn 4 and damaged the car. But I don’t think it will be a problem to fix it for next week. Maybe I went too wide on a kerb, which caused the wheels to slide and I lost control of the car and hit the barrier”.

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/rai....IvolEt61.dpuf

[SilverSpeed]

So crank up the engine and do long runs next week oh boy .

[brawnydog]

Making sense out of the lap times of seasoned drivers like Kimi and Nando in testing is very, very difficult. You need to have access to the microdata; sector times, sector times by setting, top speed, top speed by setting, corner entry and exit speeds for every corner and setting, and so on. Drivers at this level are very good at isolating their efforts to certain features of the track and will rarely, if ever, string two full efforts together, much less a full flying lap.

So nearly as I can tell, Ferrari have not brought out anything other than the most pedestrian front wing, have only used the Monkey Seat for a few laps and have only used an evolved diffuser for a couple of stints.

What this means is that the only folks who know how the car is actually performing are in the Ferrari garage.

My thoughts exactly. Anyone have any idea what Ferrari may be up to - any inside scoops, rumours, plans for next week, etc.? Should we expect them to start testing max performance, quali speeds, etc.? Is there a possibility they know more than they're letting on? Is it possible for a team to extrapolate true max performance from a benchmark test? What I mean is this. Let's suppose Ferrari are using heavy fuel loads in testing. Let's further suppose they are not testing full downforce, aero set up, and engine output. We can now assume correctly that the wind tunnel is providing accurate aero simulations. Given these variables and a given benchmark time, how accurately can they extrapolate a true quali-type lap time? I'm thinking this way because of the potential protest against Ferrari's ultra-lightweight engine cover. There have also been rumours about the super-tight packaging, super-light and highly fuel efficient engine, and other tricks. If they show their true potential this early wouldn't potential protests set them back this early by having to redesign certain components? I know this sounds crazy, but what I'm essentially saying is could this be a genuine sandbagging attempt by Ferrari to divert attention away from them? Well, as I'm writing this I just saw the news that Ferrari will be exploring the performance of car next week. I'm not really sure what they mean. Do they mean race performance, quali performance? All eyes on next week, although I'm not sure much can be derived from the times just yet.

[mark p]

In 3rd test last year Ferrari ran quali sims like Merc as were a few tenths off which was the case in 1st few races but RB were over a second off and this turned out to be false. I know RB struggled with tyres but still won in Malaysia and Bahrain at the start of the year so even next weeks nothing will be absolute.

On Ferrari front wing last year they had veru complex version so far a very simple one. Some media felt last year Ferrari were far better at tracks with less fw required and when needed fw they suffered due to effects it had on flow at the back of the car. I have championed the idea it is better to use simple aero to correlate the wind tunnel but could be possible they have stripped the fw to basics to build from there through this year as this was a route cause of aero issues last year? Could just be that as wing is narrower they have to build it up again from a basic level?

[anakin]

In 3rd test last year Ferrari ran quali sims like Merc as were a few tenths off which was the case in 1st few races but RB were over a second off and this turned out to be false. I know RB struggled with tyres but still won in Malaysia and Bahrain at the start of the year so even next weeks nothing will be absolute.

On Ferrari front wing last year they had veru complex version so far a very simple one. Some media felt last year Ferrari were far better at tracks with less fw required and when needed fw they suffered due to effects it had on flow at the back of the car. I have championed the idea it is better to use simple aero to correlate the wind tunnel but could be possible they have stripped the fw to basics to build from there through this year as this was a route cause of aero issues last year? Could just be that as wing is narrower they have to build it up again from a basic level?

there is a lot of rear downforce lost because of the regulation. maybe ferrari is just balancing it right... they might be thinking, no need for complex front wing.

[mark p]

there is a lot of rear downforce lost because of the regulation. maybe ferrari is just balancing it right... they might be thinking, no need for complex front wing.

Certainly possible. Fw could however be more complex not for df but to generate airflows to the back to aid rear df. Will see during the season if more and more parts are added. Visually this is the part of the car we may see most changes.

[F1NAC]

Certainly possible. Fw could however be more complex not for df but to generate airflows to the back to aid rear df. Will see during the season if more and more parts are added. Visually this is the part of the car we may see most changes.

they didn't run any new aero parts, it is just basic car and testing data between tunnel and reality, and building kilometers for engine. If you look closely Ferrari is testing their engine on their own while Mercedes has a group of teams which are doing a lots of runs, so it is easy for them

[mark p]

they didn't run any new aero parts, it is just basic car and testing data between tunnel and reality, and building kilometers for engine. If you look closely Ferrari is testing their engine on their own while Mercedes has a group of teams which are doing a lots of runs, so it is easy for them

This is exactly what I think. I was just expressing in public other possible reasons with a positive slant as of course non of us know anything for certain.

I think Ferrari will have a solid start and get stronger into the season. I would love if Ferrari start infront but my gut feeling is a solid start getting stronger and being the best some point early enough to win both titles. Please let it be true.

[f1tomi8]

Temperature sensor

[PadGeT]

RB10.png
F14 T.png
Just a thought....The intercooler/radiator exist are channeled in btw the rear pull rod suspension arms in RB10, thereby allowing a cleaner flow to back of the diffuser.
On the other hand in F14 T there is clearly disturbance being caused to the airflow between the suspension arms... it may be designed to channel air in between them , but awfully hard given the suspension ride height changes being caused due the loading and unloading at the rear

[anakin]

RB10.png
F14 T.png
Just a thought....The intercooler/radiator exist are channeled in btw the rear pull rod suspension arms in RB10, thereby allowing a cleaner flow to back of the diffuser.
On the other hand in F14 T there is clearly disturbance being caused to the airflow between the suspension arms... it may be designed to channel air in between them , but awfully hard given the suspension ride height changes being caused due the loading and unloading at the rear

F14T intercooler/radiator exits was somehow same as the merc.

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I think that exits are one of those redbull's miscalculations

[Senna4Ever]

Thanks to @tifosi1993 and @Rob for the superb pics ...

[PadGeT]

actually W05 makes the exit just under the lower hoof/arm but interacts with the wishbone ( see the white line)
W-05.png
Mclaren style is the opposite of merc, they direct above the wishbones and suspension arms.
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[f1tomi8]

“We worked on learning how to get the best from the 2014 clutch and on tuning the new brake by wire system” – continued Allison - See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/all....2ilOJflL.dpuf

[anakin]

Kimi Raikkonen: "The F14-T is not bad" "The reliability of our car has been ok, but in terms of speed I do not know what’s going on"

[Hornet]

Just a thought....The intercooler/radiator exist are channeled in btw the rear pull rod suspension arms in RB10, thereby allowing a cleaner flow to back of the diffuser.
On the other hand in F14 T there is clearly disturbance being caused to the airflow between the suspension arms... it may be designed to channel air in between them , but awfully hard given the suspension ride height changes being caused due the loading and unloading at the rear

Nice comparison there. I agree that Red Bull design aims to maximize aero performance while Ferrari's design probably prioritize cooling performance.

[brawnydog]

In 3rd test last year Ferrari ran quali sims like Merc as were a few tenths off which was the case in 1st few races but RB were over a second off and this turned out to be false. I know RB struggled with tyres but still won in Malaysia and Bahrain at the start of the year so even next weeks nothing will be absolute.

On Ferrari front wing last year they had veru complex version so far a very simple one. Some media felt last year Ferrari were far better at tracks with less fw required and when needed fw they suffered due to effects it had on flow at the back of the car. I have championed the idea it is better to use simple aero to correlate the wind tunnel but could be possible they have stripped the fw to basics to build from there through this year as this was a route cause of aero issues last year? Could just be that as wing is narrower they have to build it up again from a basic level?

Yeah, I agree. My thought was that they're interested in the engine mostly at this stage. Wings will get more complex later. Rosberg has also stated that the cars are not sticking to corners as last year. Seems Mercedes is testing straight-line speed for now. I would do the same. Start from first principles and then build on that. Also, wind tunnel can only provide so much information. Getting onto the track and testing provides that last bit of information needed. Would hate to see a complex wing that didn't perform up to expectations on the track.

[f1tomi8]

#F1 @InsideFerrari and @alo_oficial will be in #Sakhir for a filimg day session today via @Gazzetta_it

[bondilad]

http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ry/146605.html

major upgrade at 3rd test. But doesn't go into detail.

[emirBoz]

#F1 @InsideFerrari and @alo_oficial will be in #Sakhir for a filimg day session today via @Gazzetta_it

driver may be marc gene

https://twitter.com/marc_gene/status...2627535343616/

[hrc5555]

http://grandprix247.com/2014/02/25/r...b-10-in-spain/

[SinanOzerS]

Main pre-season upgrade still to come - Ferrari
Read more at http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...VvTCWbLuBWX.99