F14-T- Development & News

[OSS EL BOSS]

Was delighted to hear that the wretched last three race double points super idea had been abandonned until someone
Pointed out to me that whilst the wording might be as I Understood it it could of course be that the last race still has double
Points , just not the last three!
Any thoughts?

Yes, indeed the last race still has double points.

[Alessandra]

Yes, indeed the last race still has double points.

Oh for goodness sake
Thanks OSS EL BOSS

[hrc5555]

Pirelli announces tyre allocations for first four 2014 F1 races

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112738

[brawnydog]

Wow, new management approach: make a priority list and stick to it ...
will take it with me maybe it can be used also outside motorsport business ...

You and I can laugh, but we both know that not everyone gets that concept. It's easy to get distracted in any business and one of the key tenets in business is to stay focused on the priorities. Not every business can do this properly. I laughed too as it's just common sense on the surface. Cheers mate!

[Rob]

Ferrari F14 T - new front wing02 March 2014

In the final Bahrain test Ferrari introduced a completely new front wing, different in all details from the previous version (inset). The endplate (1) is simpler, with a thin vertical slot, while the main plane is more complex - beside the endplate (2) it is more curved, with two slots to better direct airflow on the outside. The new upper flap (3) is an updated version of the one introduced last year in Hungary, while the new main flap (4) and the other two flaps also have a different shape. Finally, the horizontal plate (6) is different, wider but still with the middle slot.

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2014/0/1153.html

[gjoko-mkd]

[Jas]

tech analysis http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi...ormance_parts/

[Kiwi Nick]

Were the sidepods reshaped to accommodate better cooling?

[Hornet]

It does looks larger. The cooling outlet around the exhaust was also expanded. (there were some pic online showing the back and the difference is quite significant)

[Senna4Ever]

Do we know when our filming day will be?

Regards

[Bubbles]

They're tweaking the shape to (try to) solve the airflow problems in that region. I always thought the RB7-like bodywork is the way to go and Ferrari are leaning towards that. If they don't get those sidepod exits out of the way, they're going to mess up the airflow to the diffuser.

[mirafiori]

The latest photo of the F14T shows the rear end not quite so compact, maybe Ferrari looking for reliability towards cooling, it is important we finish the first race with both cars scoring points.

[fronaldo]

Do we know when our filming day will be?

Regards

I think it's already done during in between of two Bahrain test..Correct me if i'm wrong

[Reikai]

What do you think guys do in the first races?I am very glad about our reliability.I know it was only test sesions but it looks like we are not that fast as Mercedes and Williams.Our only hope is reliability.I can't wait for that race ! First GP is going to be great chance for Caterham or Marussia to get first points.

[RedPassion]

Were the sidepods reshaped to accommodate better cooling?

I think what they are trying to do is to expell hot air in an other point of the car.The bodywork is larger in the upper part but more undercut in the sidepods area,while it could looks like they are searching for more cooling it isnt really the case,i think they have seen in the windtunnel that is more efficient to escape the air from the exhaust zone(like Mercedes,Red Bull and Mclaren) than from the sidepods like the Ferrari cars of the last years.Cooling requirements are the same they are just expelling it in a different way

[RedPassion]

They're tweaking the shape to (try to) solve the airflow problems in that region. I always thought the RB7-like bodywork is the way to go and Ferrari are leaning towards that. If they don't get those sidepod exits out of the way, they're going to mess up the airflow to the diffuser.

I agree that they are trying to optimise the shape in that region but it has nothing to do with the sidepods exit messing everything,every team has to deal with it,the F14T has the typical overcut shape or the latest Red Bulls,they are just trying to improve it ever more,but i believe we are already mighty in that region.Think about it,we have the smallest sidepods frontal area of them all and this means that you should see less coke shape because you are starting from a narrower point,instead of that the F14T has an incredible extreme coke shape in the likeness of the RB10 or the W05 but as i already told you with less frontal surface,thats amazing

[raiden]

I do not believe that ferrari is behind mercedes nor williams, they have not shown their true form

[Nova]

Wow great pix. Wouldnt the nose dictate the airflow there to a degree? I actually thought we'd see a few nose variations during the tests, mabey they did, but they were subtle, but I couldnt find that in any pix.

[Kingdom Hearts]

I do not believe that ferrari is behind mercedes nor williams, they have not shown their true form

Maybe, but the same can be said about other teams.

[RedPassion]

The latest photo of the F14T shows the rear end not quite so compact, maybe Ferrari looking for reliability towards cooling, it is important we finish the first race with both cars scoring points.

I thought exactly the same but if you look at different pictures from different angles you will see that even if the upper bodywork is larger the coke shape is tighter.They added in the sidepods what they have taken from the coke zone where they believe there is more pace to be found.
Look at these pictures:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/1...a49bfda4_b.jpg New bodywork
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/1...ae070221_b.jpg Old bodywork
All rights go to Sutton Images.

[mirafiori]

I thought exactly the same but if you look at different pictures from different angles you will see that even if the upper bodywork is larger the coke shape is tighter.They added in the sidepods what they have taken from the coke zone where they believe there is more pace to be found.
Look at these pictures:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/1...a49bfda4_b.jpg New bodywork
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/1...ae070221_b.jpg Old bodywork
All rights go to Sutton Images.

Yeah I see what you mean, can't wait for the first race to see exactly what solution Ferrari end up with, Thanks for sharing the pictures.

[RedPassion]

Yeah I see what you mean, can't wait for the first race to see exactly what solution Ferrari end up with, Thanks for sharing the pictures.

You are welcome mate,Forza Ferrari

[Ferris]

Some rumours emerging that Ferrari used different timing spots on track to mask their true pace... I'm not sure what to believe given all the comments coming from SD and Alonso.

If they prove to be very fast in Melbourne then they were clearly sandbagging which perhaps they are trying to do to get a favourable outcome regarding the turbo shielding issue and to have the competition focus on the developments of Merc and Williams who have been setting the pre season pace.

Even if we are behind (which i think we are) the majority of the work to improve is around software (to ensure better power delivery) which can be updated throughout the season, and aero also which we at least have a wind tunnel whose numbers are accurate this time around. The only concern we have that we cannot easily address is with respect to our fuel consumption and ERS overheating issue rumours. If these rumours are indeed true then these will be harder to address without compromising other area's of the cars performance.

The boys and girls in Maranello are no doubt very busy!

[giodap]

Ferrari has had a slight switch around in its management in recent days with the appointment of Antonello Coletta as the new Sporting Activities Director. He will report to Stefano Domenicali and the role seems to be similar to what other teams might called Chief Operating Officer. He will work alongside Technical Director James Allison, Engineering Director Pat Fry, Engine and Electronics Director Luca Marmorini and Production Director Corrado Lanzone, taking some of the administrative strain off Domenicali.

The 47-year-old Roman has been involved in the sport since 1991 when he started out with the Forti Corse team in Formula 3 and Formula 3000. Two years later he joined Peugeot Italy as Sporting Director and moved on to Alfa Romeo in 1995. He joined Ferrari in 1997 as the coordinator of the Ferrari Challenge and then in 2003 was put in charge of the Ferrari Corse Clienti department, overseeing customer racing activities. This role has now been expanded to include F1 as well.

[Winter]

Sorry to say, but even if we used "own sectors" for timing, it would only affect to quali simulation time.
It does not make any difference to our not so great race sim..

[Ferris]

Sorry to say, but even if we used "own sectors" for timing, it would only affect to quali simulation time.
It does not make any difference to our not so great race sim..

yes this is true unless the drivers continually slowed in a particular part of the track on every second lap. Only then can they truly mask the long run pace.
I find it hard to believe they would take this approach as there are so many things to get through that playing games like this hardly seems useful.

[stefa]

Once again. There is no such thing as sandbaging with very limited testing!!!!

[mark p]

yes this is true unless the drivers continually slowed in a particular part of the track on every second lap. Only then can they truly mask the long run pace.
I find it hard to believe they would take this approach as there are so many things to get through that playing games like this hardly seems useful.

Agreed but they could have ran a performance programme without full out lap. They may have been focusing engine to optimise for race when cannot run full power due to fuel. No point compromising any part of race programme for quali get perfect race map or data towards it as doubt they would have got it yet. To check they run quali sim on race power, they run high fuel on race power then full power on heavy fuel. They have 3 points of reference so can then work out point 4 which will be full power quali pace.

bottom line sort the car to be best over a race, it will quicker in quali but it will be what it will be with fuel out. Points on Sunday and optimum race performance is king. No compromise on race pace for quali.

[Ferris]

Once again. There is no such thing as sandbaging with very limited testing!!!!

I think what you mean is that there is no advantage in sandbagging when you have limited testing, not that it cannot be done as clearly it can, it just wouldn't make sense to do it. And as Mark P just mentioned, if you want to hide your quali pace for whatever reason it can be done whilst still working out for yourself what quali time you could have done.

All of this discussion is kind of futile anyway as there are bigger concerns that need to be addressed.

[mark p]

I think what you mean is that there is no advantage in sandbagging when you have limited testing, not that it cannot be done as clearly it can, it just wouldn't make sense to do it. And as Mark P just mentioned, if you want to hide your quali pace for whatever reason it can be done whilst still working out for yourself what quali time you could have done.

All of this discussion is kind of futile anyway as there are bigger concerns that need to be addressed.

Do you think there are any serious issues. I know it's gut feelings but I do not think there are any serious unexpected issues. I think the recent test just may have shown who guessed closest to optimum engine maps and gearing for example. In Australia things can turn on there head as now they will be all crunching the numbers gathered on all areas of the cars and the optimum solutions will be in place for Australia. It will then be down to which cars are best and who can develop most. All we have seen thus far is who is closest to the start line and they will all be pretty level in development stages come the 1st race. Renault excluded as they appear to have deeper issues.