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[shamim179]

That article if you bother to read it actually paints a positive picture for Ferrari. The author says there is more potential to be gained in the car and a podium is very possible. Think the forum poster is being a little naughty there or perhaps did it unintentionally that by just mentioning those lines it can be taken out of context.

[Ophidian786]

That article if you bother to read it actually paints a positive picture for Ferrari. The author says there is more potential to be gained in the car and a podium is very possible. Think the forum poster is being a little naughty there or perhaps did it unintentionally that by just mentioning those lines it can be taken out of context.

I think you may have misinterpreted the article. It basically states that Ferrari are behind now but have potential to improve. To me this is still a negative: if the article is correct, we need to find 1 second from somewhere.

[Nova]

So thats it then, sigh...we're 4th best..no gettin round it...
n we havent even raced yet...mabey I can get a few lottery numbers off some of you....

[FerrariF60]

So thats it then, sigh...we're 4th best..no gettin round it...
n we havent even raced yet...mabey I can get a few lottery numbers off some of you....

ha, ha....true indeed
we haven't even ran a race yet and all "experts" think we're 4th fastest.....LMFAO

keep the faith people, i'm sure Ferrari have been working around the clock since last day of testing in Bahrain to get everyting ready for OZ...i have faith in our TEAM and i'm sure we haven't shown our full speed yet....

just a few more days until friday practice, and then come quali time we'll see a FAST ferrari that we haven't seen yet and we'll all be surprised...

[abbottcostello]

I am feeling quietly confident about the upcoming tilt in Albert Park, I actually think we'll be competitive in quali & the race, I won't use the "glass half full" saying because I think the glass is about 92% full... gotta leave some room for improvement, right!!

[Laferrari]

F1 - Ferrari sandbagged in winter testing - Salo

"Ferrari has been pretty much hidden"

10 March 2014 - 09h05, by GMM


Ferrari is yet to reveal the full potential of its 2014 car.

That is the view of former F1 driver Mika Salo, who raced a few times for the fabled Italian team in 1999 and is now a pundit on Finnish television.

Many believe that, in the 2014 pecking order, Ferrari trails most of the Mercedes-powered teams, but 47-year-old Salo is not so sure.

"Ferrari has been pretty much hidden," he told Finnish radio Nova.

"When you look at the sector times for the tests, some are very good but some are ridiculously bad. They are covering up their pace and no one really knows where they are," added Salo.

[f1tomi8]

An exclusive look behind the scenes of the Ferrari F1 team as, ahead of the 2014 season, they prepare for the biggest raft of rule changes in a generation.

[mirafiori]

F1 - Ferrari sandbagged in winter testing - Salo

"Ferrari has been pretty much hidden"

10 March 2014 - 09h05, by GMM


Ferrari is yet to reveal the full potential of its 2014 car.

That is the view of former F1 driver Mika Salo, who raced a few times for the fabled Italian team in 1999 and is now a pundit on Finnish television.

Many believe that, in the 2014 pecking order, Ferrari trails most of the Mercedes-powered teams, but 47-year-old Salo is not so sure.

"Ferrari has been pretty much hidden," he told Finnish radio Nova.

"When you look at the sector times for the tests, some are very good but some are ridiculously bad. They are covering up their pace and no one really knows where they are," added Salo.

Thank god we finally have a race this weekend, all will be revealed.

[f300v10]

An exclusive look behind the scenes of the Ferrari F1 team as, ahead of the 2014 season, they prepare for the biggest raft of rule changes in a generation.

Thanks for posting. You really see how much work was involved in developing the new power units.

[ManFromMilan]

An exclusive look behind the scenes of the Ferrari F1 team as, ahead of the 2014 season, they prepare for the biggest raft of rule changes in a generation.

Thanks F1tomi8, great video!

[f1tomi8]

Analysis of racing
Bottas faster than Rosberg
The hard currency of the new Formula 1 generation are the driving games. Since the drivers have to be careful not only tire wear but also on fuel consumption. We have analyzed nine GP simulations and three alibi tests at the driving test Tern. Valtteri Bottas fastest was just ahead of Nico Rosberg.

One round is not saying much. As is true for all drivers, the maximum allowable flow rate of 100 kg of fuel per hour. If you can ever make a statement to the best lap times, then, what about the engine in the rear. There was clearly a division into three classes recognizable. , Mercedes ahead of Ferrari and Renault.

The true standard of comparison, more than ever, the race simulations. Because this year, a factor is added, who has played only a minor role in the last year. In addition to the tire wear, fuel consumption dictated the pace in the race.

Only nine riders with GP experiments
Because of ongoing problems with the engines only a few drivers have ever done a real racing simulation. We have organized the times and nine of these rehearsals examined, and three continuous runs where at least three-quarters of the full race distance have been completed of Bahrain. And these are 57 rounds.

To get to the round cut, we had to pull off the pit stops. You did not take place at race pace. One could be more, some less time. In addition, there were interruptions by red flags that interfered with the process.

Mercedes-teams in their racing games forward
Despite all the obstacles can be derived as an indication. The only two drivers who have competed at a Bahrain Grand Prix two times, were Valtteri Bottas and Nico Rosberg. Bottas put on the second of the eight test days before a best time that could not be beaten.

Six laps to go, the Finn was a red flag in between. He hung the six rounds still to see if he would come with 100 kg gasoline over the distance. This gives three stops, although only two were planned. On average Bottas a lap time of 1:40.342 minutes with a fastest lap of 1:37.328 minutes. This is followed by all the bite of the teeth.

Racing simulation two minutes slower than Grand Prix
This would result in a total race time of 1:28.38,150 hours net. If one were three pit stops and the corresponding rounds to clean and go out, these include total would be a race time 1:40:18 hours. As a reference point: Sebastian Vettel took for his victory ride in 2013, a time of 1:36.00,4 hours, would have been so over four minutes faster.

The comparison is not entirely fair, because the last stop was not planned at Bottas. So you have to pull off nearly two minutes at Bottas. In order for the V6 turbos were not so dramatically much more slowly over a race distance. But also promises the comparison of the fastest race lap. Vettel managed 1:36.962 minutes a year ago. The best time of Bottas was only four-tenths of it.

Rosberg with three and four stops
The Williams driver drove in the second Bahrain Grand Prix another week, this time with two stops in the middle and came to a lap time of 1:41.515 minutes. Nico Rosberg ended up with his two race simulations between the two Bottas times. The one rewound the Mercedes driver with three pit stops off on Saturday of the first week. Average lap time: 1:40.865 minutes.

The variant with four stops on the penultimate day of testing was slightly faster with an average of 1:40.621 minutes. Whether it makes sense or four times to change tires, is another matter. To this end, Williams technical director Pat Symonds: "More stops are faster on paper but also cost more petrol.."

Alonso gone with the wind
Jenson Button was with a mean of 1:41.574 minutes at three stops, the number three in the field. Team-mate Kevin Magnussen fell from contrast with 1:43.003 minutes. The Dane was beaten by both Force India drivers. Sergio Perez came with 1:42.336 minutes for his 48 rounds with two stops over the distance. Also Nico Hülkenberg joined the tires twice. His average lap time: 1:42.921 minutes.

And what about Ferrari? Fernando Alonso reeled on Friday of the second week 52 laps plus three pit stops from. The Spaniard was average 1:42.551 minutes fast. But on this day the wind blew strongest. Alonso got the worst possible time for a race simulation.

Sauber still modest
Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Raikkonen and Adrian Sutil could not go to the end of their GP simulation. Maybe they did not want it too. The times were not famous. Hamilton turned 34 laps with a stop in between and was in average 1:42.190 minutes fast. Kimi Raikkonen came with 42 laps 1:43.251 minutes on average, Adrian Sutil after 40 rounds in 1:44.122 minutes. As always, a lot of studies prior to reading tea leaves. Because the types of tires used play a role. About this unfortunately we lack reliable records.

ANALYSIS RENNSIMULATIONEN BAHRAIN 2014
Driver Day Round cut Rounding Pit stops
Valtteri Bottas 2 1:40.342 min 47 3
Nico Rosberg 7 1:40.621 min 54 4
Nico Rosberg 4 1:40.865 min 48 3
Valtteri Bottas 5 1:41.515 min 53 2
Jenson Button 3 1:41.574 min 51 3
Sergio Perez 5 1:42.336 min 48 2
Fernando Alonso 6 1:42.551 min 52 3
Nico Hulkenberg 7 1:42.921 min 47 2
Kevin Magnussen 5 1:43.003 min 53 2
Via Amus

[ntukza]

An exclusive look behind the scenes of the Ferrari F1 team as, ahead of the 2014 season, they prepare for the biggest raft of rule changes in a generation.

Wow, this is great. It's a pity it doesn't include Bahrain. I hope there is a follow-up video and many more to come. Have Ferrari done anything like this in the past? This may be a sign of confidence in and of itself.

[AfterLife]

"Imbalance at some moments because of high torque" Look at the F14T getting wild at 00:52. Very Interesting.

[abbottcostello]

Thanks for the super video f1tomi8!

Loved the comment by Kimi something to the effect... "it's pretty OK", I know it's just a language thing but still gave me a little smile.

[Jas]

WHAT A GREAT VIDEO, Thank you, so much respect for our boys, the huge challenges, for example re building an engine team for starters! Come Aus quali and race for that matter, we still don't know how these cars get off the line I will be a nervous wreck

[Nero Horse]

An exclusive look behind the scenes of the Ferrari F1 team as, ahead of the 2014 season, they prepare for the biggest raft of rule changes in a generation.

What an incredibly great and fascinating video! Thank you very much for posting it.

This video really makes you realize just how complex everything is inside a Ferrari F1 team and how much effort these guys put in to be successful. It's a constant 24/7 year-round intense hard work and if you don't win a championship then it's viewed as a complete failure and you get a lot of flak for it every time...so much responsibility and pressure.
I take my hat off and bow in gratitude to every single person working for Ferrari.


Oh and I really loved the part in the video when "La Gazzetta dello sport" journalist Pino Allievi said:

Formula 1 without Ferrari wouldn't be the same. This is the history of motor-racing. Ferrari is more important alone than all the other teams together.

So true...

[mirafiori]

Thank you for posting and sharing this fantastic video.

[f1tomi8]

"New" gasolina?
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[Sab_g]

An exclusive look behind the scenes of the Ferrari F1 team as, ahead of the 2014 season, they prepare for the biggest raft of rule changes in a generation.

I can't see the video, anywhere else I can see it?

[Jas]

I can't see the video, anywhere else I can see it?

Daily Motion!

[ManFromMilan]

"Imbalance at some moments because of high torque" Look at the F14T getting wild at 00:52. Very Interesting.

The "wild Ferrari" was due too the late braking for the corner and not torque at all.

[hrc5555]

Anyone knows what updates are we bringing in Melbourne?

[Tony]

"Imbalance at some moments because of high torque" Look at the F14T getting wild at 00:52. Very Interesting.

Hmmm, seems to be an issue under braking and not under acceleration.... could it be braking issues with that new system?

[pavenc]

F1plus @f1plus
F1 2014 Season Team Preview: Ferrari - Dark horses?
http://t.co/1MysExtwVX

[MRRabbit]

An exclusive look behind the scenes of the Ferrari F1 team as, ahead of the 2014 season, they prepare for the biggest raft of rule changes in a generation.

Simply beautiful

[Paulpg87]

Mercedes PU more powerfull due to MGU - H mounted between turbo and compressor, a solution able to let flow in more air and extract more power while Ferrari and Renault mounted th MGU in the "v". That's why they have an HP advantage.

source: omnicorse

seems bad news..

[mirafiori]

Mercedes PU more powerfull due to MGU - H mounted between turbo and compressor, a solution able to let flow in more air and extract more power while Ferrari and Renault mounted th MGU in the "v". That's why they have an HP advantage.

source: omnicorse

seems bad news..

I see you are based in Italy, most of your posts seem to only report negative information regarding Ferrari and you love telling us how wonderful and powerful the Mercedes car is, any chance of some positive news from Italy to share with us Ferrari fans.

[Paulpg87]

I see you are based in Italy, most of your posts seem to only report negative information regarding Ferrari and you love telling us how wonderful and powerful the Mercedes car is, any chance of some positive news from Italy to share with us Ferrari fans.

it's a pity but there arent' good news, rumour here are mercedes too strong at the moment. I reported the source (it's a site) and have really time to translate all the article:

va ascritto al grosso lavoro che hanno fatto i tecnici di Brixworth, dove ha sede Mercedes AMG-High Performance Powertrains, la sede nel Northamptonshire dove si realizzano le power - unit PU 106A Hybrid.

La Casa tedesca ha dedicato risorse importanti nello sviluppo del motore V6 Turbo da 1,6 litri di cilindrata. Guardando con attenzione le immagini che sono state diramate dalla Stella a tre punte emerge un aspetto molto interessante: i tecnici che si occupano dell'impianto di sovralimentazione hanno montato l'MGU-H fra la turbina e il compressore, a differenza di Ferrari e Renault che lo avrebbero sistemato all'interno della V.

La Mercedes in questo modo riuscirebbe ad immettere nel cassoncino di aspirazione del V6 dell'aria più fresca e, quindi, potrebbe trarre una maggiore potenza, anche se il motore elettrico sarebbe sottoposto a maggiori sforzi torsionali.

[Kiwi Nick]

Mercedes PU more powerfull due to MGU - H mounted between turbo and compressor, a solution able to let flow in more air and extract more power while Ferrari and Renault mounted th MGU in the "v". That's why they have an HP advantage.

source: omnicorse

seems bad news..

If that truly is the key to an additional 50-75hp and improved reliability of the MGU-H, it spells big trouble for Ferrari and Renault. Their designs have been homologated as of February 28. So, if they are to gain on Mercedes it will have to be from maximizing the existing design.

Unless the FIA give them a do-over, which is a long shot, as allowed by the sporting regulations:

"c) A power unit delivered to the FIA after 28 February 2014, or modified and re-delivered to the FIA after that date, which the FIA is satisfied, in its absolute discretion and after full consultation with all other suppliers of power units for the Championship, could fairly and equitably be allowed to compete with other homologated power units.
Such changes will normally only be accepted if they are being proposed for reliability, safety or cost-saving reasons. Any manufacturer wishing to make a change for any of the above reasons must apply in writing to the FIA Technical Department and provide all necessary information including where appropriate, clear evidence of failures. The FIA will study such requests and, if they agree that the changes should be permitted, will circulate the correspondence to all manufacturers for comment. If the FIA receive no comments which cast doubt on their original decision about the proposed modification(s) they will confirm to the manufacturer concerned that they may be carried out.
All such power units should be delivered in such a condition that the seals required under Article 28.4 can be fitted. Power units will be held by the FIA throughout the homologation period."

[gvera]

it's a pity but there arent' good news, rumour here are mercedes too strong at the moment. I reported the source (it's a site) and have really time to translate all the article:

va ascritto al grosso lavoro che hanno fatto i tecnici di Brixworth, dove ha sede Mercedes AMG-High Performance Powertrains, la sede nel Northamptonshire dove si realizzano le power - unit PU 106A Hybrid.

La Casa tedesca ha dedicato risorse importanti nello sviluppo del motore V6 Turbo da 1,6 litri di cilindrata. Guardando con attenzione le immagini che sono state diramate dalla Stella a tre punte emerge un aspetto molto interessante: i tecnici che si occupano dell'impianto di sovralimentazione hanno montato l'MGU-H fra la turbina e il compressore, a differenza di Ferrari e Renault che lo avrebbero sistemato all'interno della V.

La Mercedes in questo modo riuscirebbe ad immettere nel cassoncino di aspirazione del V6 dell'aria più fresca e, quindi, potrebbe trarre una maggiore potenza, anche se il motore elettrico sarebbe sottoposto a maggiori sforzi torsionali.

It doesn't say 'more air' but 'fresher air' and so they can extract more power from the engine.
I think I get the idea behind their reasoning, as the turbo side (extremely hot) is separated from the compresor by the MGU-H thats placed in the middle, the compressor works cooler.
That maybe true, but I think it all depends on the effectivity of the intercooler.