F14-T- Development & News

[Avantifer12]

I don't know if this has been posted somewhere already but I found this article from Autosprint on F1technical forum posted by muelte : http://www.f1technical.net/forum/vie...6212&start=150

I don't really know what to say, the picture looks quite badly retouched but still it strenghten the evidence that Ferrari testing F1 V6 turbo in a LaFerrari prototype if that single central exhaust is real. Or could it be a LMP developement already, the bodywork suggest a more LMP type of car but I still thinks Ferrari prepare for F1 2014.
EDIT: Just saw a possible KERS or ERS sticker on the side of the car in front the rear wheel.

[Nova]

^ Wow, I like...

[Nova]

As a concept I quite like this look of car

Like it.

[Rob]

Rear wing just looks, like it was an after thought.

[stefa]

Rear wing just looks, like it was an after thought.

[Nero Horse]

from facebook (via f1technical)

This looks great! If our new racer is going to look similar to this then I'd be happy. I really like it.

[radosav]

This looks great! If our new racer is going to look similar to this then I'd be happy. I really like it.

It looks a bit impotent, with that nose looking down.

[FerrariF60]

It looks a bit impotent, with that nose looking down.

it's part of the rules for next year; ALL teams will HAVE to have low noses like the picture posted above...NO MORE HIGH noses, i personally HATED them anyways

[radosav]

it's part of the rules for next year; ALL teams will HAVE to have low noses like the picture posted above...NO MORE HIGH noses, i personally HATED them anyways

not necessarily, there were few interesting and very ugly ideas for next season noses, this one looks good next to them

[Hornet]

it's part of the rules for next year; ALL teams will HAVE to have low noses like the picture posted above...NO MORE HIGH noses, i personally HATED them anyways

Only the front tip of the nose needs to be that low, not the entire bulkhead. The bulkhead will still be kept high, but the challenge is how to curve the tip down. Some ideas I've seen includes the elephant nose, and double nose.

It's going to be uglier than high nose.

[stefa]

it's part of the rules for next year; ALL teams will HAVE to have low noses like the picture posted above...NO MORE HIGH noses, i personally HATED them anyways

Exactly

I always preferred lowered nose looking car!

[fratelliferrari]

I don't know if this has been posted somewhere already but I found this article from Autosprint on F1technical forum posted by muelte : http://www.f1technical.net/forum/vie...6212&start=150

I don't really know what to say, the picture looks quite badly retouched but still it strenghten the evidence that Ferrari testing F1 V6 turbo in a LaFerrari prototype if that single central exhaust is real. Or could it be a LMP developement already, the bodywork suggest a more LMP type of car but I still thinks Ferrari prepare for F1 2014.
EDIT: Just saw a possible KERS or ERS sticker on the side of the car in front the rear wheel.

Thanks for sharing the article! I really hope we will build a LMP1 car in the near future :xmasbiggrin:

[Tony]

With a central exhaust, it looks like it is an F1 test mule and not an LMP?

[Avantifer12]

With a central exhaust, it looks like it is an F1 test mule and not an LMP?

Yeah, If that central exhaust is real or actually exist I am convinced that Ferrari is using this prototype as a F1 engine test mule. But the evolution of the bodywork compared with the other test mule which we saw a month or so ago makes me think that Ferrari is developing an LMP or GT car because the only thing with the test mule that is relevant to the F1 2014 car is driveline but the aero could be relevant in a way if they are tuning the wind tunnel correlation. Maybe I'm a bit biased because I would very much like to see a Ferrari LMP car racing with Porsche and the others.

[F1NAC]

I think that side exhaust are fake because they are too shinny if you know what i mean. Usually exhaust will become darker because of exhaust flames.this can be testing mule for V6

[Nero Horse]

Yeah, If that central exhaust is real or actually exist I am convinced that Ferrari is using this prototype as a F1 engine test mule. But the evolution of the bodywork compared with the other test mule which we saw a month or so ago makes me think that Ferrari is developing an LMP or GT car because the only thing with the test mule that is relevant to the F1 2014 car is driveline but the aero could be relevant in a way if they are tuning the wind tunnel correlation. Maybe I'm a bit biased because I would very much like to see a Ferrari LMP car racing with Porsche and the others.

Yes, that would be awesome, but unfortunately it's highly unlikely that it's a test mule for the LMP1 race car, because Luca just recently said that the LMP1 project isn't that important for Ferrari right now and they will maybe consider entering into LMP1 racing in a few years. So that test mule in the picture is probably made for testing the new V6 turbo engine for next year's F1 car. But then again who knows, things can sometimes change so quickly that maybe Luca will soon surprise everyone by announcing that Ferrari will enter Le Mans with their new LMP1 car. Very unlikely, but it's a really nice dream that's for sure.

[djmorin27]

hi and happy holidays to everyone.been away for awhile so happy to be back.i remember going to my first gp in montreal in 1982.one of thr most beautiful f1 ferraris.as a twelve year old i thought the cars were loud and at the time it was a v6 twin kkk turbo charged engine.just watched being a 1982 video and they are so quiet\\\\ getting nervous. cant see them being to much louder than what they were

[Hornet]

Yes, that would be awesome, but unfortunately it's highly unlikely that it's a test mule for the LMP1 race car, because Luca just recently said that the LMP1 project isn't that important for Ferrari right now and they will maybe consider entering into LMP1 racing in a few years. So that test mule in the picture is probably made for testing the new V6 turbo engine for next year's F1 car. But then again who knows, things can sometimes change so quickly that maybe Luca will soon surprise everyone by announcing that Ferrari will enter Le Mans with their new LMP1 car. Very unlikely, but it's a really nice dream that's for sure.

Yeah I'd imagine the F1 development takes priority first. Since the engine design will eventually be freeze, it would be wise to do all testing now. There's still plenty of time for LMP later

[PURE PASSION]

There some rumors about Ferrari LMP plans and it's what Mark Webber tweets:

Great to hear that Ferrari looking to return to Le Mans racing too??? Driver line up for 2015/16 @alo_oficial and @ValeYellow46 #willwork

[giodap]

The plot thickens and just keeps thickening when it comes to Ferrari's potential return to Le Mans. Antonello Coletta, the head of Ferrari's sports car racing program, first suggested that the new regulations being implemented by the ACO could potentially see the Prancing Horse marque compete in the top-tier LMP1 class. His thoughts have since been echoed by Stefano Domenicali, the head of the Scuderia's F1 team, and by chairman Luca di Montezemolo. And now we're hearing rumors over its potential driver lineup.

Word has it that Ferrari could send Valentino Rossi and Fernando Alonso to pilot its prototype at Le Mans in 2015 or 2016. The rumors were tweeted by Mark Webber (embedded below), who recently left F1 to drive for Porsche at Le Mans – and could amount to pure speculation, to some inside track on hard news or (as is often the case) something in between. One way or another, both Rossi and Alonso are multiple world champions in their fields with strong ties to Maranello and would make a formidable lineup – particularly if paired, we'd venture, with Ferrari's test driver Marc Gené, who won at Le Mans with Peugeot in 2009.

Although the Rossi connection would seem the greater stretch, it might actually make the most sense of the two. With nothing left to prove on two wheels, the seven-time MotoGP champion has been talking about leaving the series. He's test-driven Ferrari F1 cars on several occasions and raced the Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 in the Blancpain Endurance Series last season. The move would be a rare departure for Alonso, however, who has raced almost exclusively in open-wheel single seaters his entire career, and would need to balance the program with his F1 commitments. That is, assuming he doesn't get fed up with chasing after Sebastian Vettel and teaming with Kimi Raikkonen by then.

Whoever the drivers, the Ferrari entry would mark the first time a Prancing Horse would compete in the top class at Le Mans since the privateer-entry 333 SP in the mid-90s, the first factory effort since the 312P in the mid-70s and, if successful, would be the first Ferrari (or for that matter the first Italian team altogether) to win the French endurance race outright since the mid-60s.

[Nero Horse]

The plot thickens and just keeps thickening when it comes to Ferrari's potential return to Le Mans. Antonello Coletta, the head of Ferrari's sports car racing program, first suggested that the new regulations being implemented by the ACO could potentially see the Prancing Horse marque compete in the top-tier LMP1 class. His thoughts have since been echoed by Stefano Domenicali, the head of the Scuderia's F1 team, and by chairman Luca di Montezemolo. And now we're hearing rumors over its potential driver lineup.

Word has it that Ferrari could send Valentino Rossi and Fernando Alonso to pilot its prototype at Le Mans in 2015 or 2016. The rumors were tweeted by Mark Webber (embedded below), who recently left F1 to drive for Porsche at Le Mans – and could amount to pure speculation, to some inside track on hard news or (as is often the case) something in between. One way or another, both Rossi and Alonso are multiple world champions in their fields with strong ties to Maranello and would make a formidable lineup – particularly if paired, we'd venture, with Ferrari's test driver Marc Gené, who won at Le Mans with Peugeot in 2009.

Although the Rossi connection would seem the greater stretch, it might actually make the most sense of the two. With nothing left to prove on two wheels, the seven-time MotoGP champion has been talking about leaving the series. He's test-driven Ferrari F1 cars on several occasions and raced the Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 in the Blancpain Endurance Series last season. The move would be a rare departure for Alonso, however, who has raced almost exclusively in open-wheel single seaters his entire career, and would need to balance the program with his F1 commitments. That is, assuming he doesn't get fed up with chasing after Sebastian Vettel and teaming with Kimi Raikkonen by then.

Whoever the drivers, the Ferrari entry would mark the first time a Prancing Horse would compete in the top class at Le Mans since the privateer-entry 333 SP in the mid-90s, the first factory effort since the 312P in the mid-70s and, if successful, would be the first Ferrari (or for that matter the first Italian team altogether) to win the French endurance race outright since the mid-60s.

Hmmm...that's a very interesting rumour indeed.

[Hornet]

For a moment I thought the article is suggesting that Alonso retires in 2015 and joins Ferrari LMP1 program. Then I realize it's suggesting that Alonso do both LM and F1? :xmaseek:

I highly doubt Alonso or any driver can cope.

[Alessandra]

Oooh, start saving for Le Mans.:xmasbiggrin:

[Tifoso]

For a moment I thought the article is suggesting that Alonso retires in 2015 and joins Ferrari LMP1 program. Then I realize it's suggesting that Alonso do both LM and F1? :xmaseek:

I highly doubt Alonso or any driver can cope.

I think that if anyone can, he can. It's been done before, no?

[stefa]

Let's first be successful in F1 and than at other fields, OK?

[Umbria]

I think back thirty to forty years ago when F1 drivers drove any type of cars they could get their hands on. They smoked and drank and partied pretty well. Look at todays drivers, they are highly trained, in great physical condition and to think they could not handle a 24hr race, is silly. I bet Alonso or any F1 driver will do just fine, they will probably dominate in the right car.

[Nova]

Actually, Ferrari is successful in the wec and other series w/the 458's. Theyve been winning quite a bit, plus, they are one of the most
beautiful sports racing Ferrari's in years. To me since the 250LM and the killer P4's.

[Hornet]

I think that if anyone can, he can. It's been done before, no?

I think back thirty to forty years ago when F1 drivers drove any type of cars they could get their hands on. They smoked and drank and partied pretty well. Look at todays drivers, they are highly trained, in great physical condition and to think they could not handle a 24hr race, is silly. I bet Alonso or any F1 driver will do just fine, they will probably dominate in the right car.

Well the sport is very different today than it was decades ago, Formula 1 takes a lot more commitment outside of racing where drivers have to train hard for hours each day and practice in simulators. After the season ended, from Alonso's tweet we saw he continued to work on the simulator and physical training well into December. Soon he and everyone will be back at the factory preparing for 2014. Not to mention the driver's commitment to PR events. And the F1 calendar today often approach 20 races.

So that leaves very little time to commit to another racing event IMO, at least in a serious manner where you have to practice and prepare for that too. I doubt the drivers can just show up on race day only and drive.

[Alessandra]

I wonder if anyone else watched “King of Speed” last night on BBC?
It concerned the actor Idris Elba’s obsession with speed since he was a child.
He went to Finland to attempt rally driving, taught by two outstanding Finnish drivers (I’m afraid I don’t know their names, but the father had been a champion umpteen times over and they both really knew their stuff).
Idris was extremely good but rolled the car eventually, pushing too hard, on a corner. He was very shaken up and it did look horrifically dangerous. No nice run-off areas as in F1 and you take your life in your hands just being a spectator.
One of the things I found most interesting was the way both father and son stressed to Idris after his crash was that “It’s not about going fast everywhere – you need to control it”, (easier said than done). Also, that driving at that level is an expressive activity, almost an art form.
To do that you have to have (a) the road/track conditions that demand skills other than solely going fast (b) supreme driver control and the talent/ instinct to know when as well as how to apply them.
After the past 4 years I wonder, what role expressiveness and sheer driver control skills are possible todayin F1? Apart of course from rehearsed donuts after the race supposedly to keep us fans happy!

[Kyss4k]

Just watched Silverstone 2011... I highly recomend it to averyone with doubts that Ferrari will be strong next year. Without the advantage of blown diffusers for Red Bull and McLaren, Ferrari was simply unbeatable. And as there won't be any diffuser sealing/blowing by exhaust, the future is looking good for us