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    Considering how high they kept the chassis at the front I think it's possible they are hiding the nose solution, cause it is the only place that is left for inovation and is rather easily copied. That nose just doesn't make sense looking from the side view.

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    - Double pylon to support Rear wings

    - Huge exhaust

    - No monkey seat (yet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorin27 View Post
    com on guys just look at the back we r the tightest at the rear by miles and look at the radiator openings they are the smallest by miles this is a very tight packaged car by far
    I agree, I don't think anyone is saying the whole car is already bad. We won't know how it performs until we see it running in winter testing when we may see some hints. Even then we will have to wait till Australia to really know if its a winning one.

    The only puzzling part is, all those area you describe are shrink to allow more air flow to the diffuser section. So the question now is how do we feed them massive amount of air?

    This is the reason why last year the cars all have high nose, because a significant amount of air comes from under the front bulkhead. This year, teams try to find creative ways to allowing as much air under the bulkhead as they can. Same aim, just different approach due to the change in rules. This aim is something you cannot run away from, every team needs to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unbannable II View Post
    Considering how high they kept the chassis at the front I think it's possible they are hiding the nose solution, cause it is the only place that is left for inovation and is rather easily copied. That nose just doesn't make sense looking from the side view.
    Easy to copy, yes. Easy to implement, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIEK View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by djmorin27 View Post
    com on guys just look at the back we r the tightest at the rear by miles and look at the radiator openings they are the smallest by miles this is a very tight packaged car by far
    The F138 had incredibly tight rear-end, yet because of the huge sidepods, air wasn't reaching that part, it was going straight into the rear wheels. The sidepods this year seem a bit smaller, maybe they will work a bit better, but I really don't like those huge openings like last year. This car is clearly done by the same person as the previous four cars.


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    I don't get some of the comments, in my opinion the car is nice !
    She don't have a strange nose like Williams, McLaren, Lotus and, at least to me, the sidepods look very compact, especially on the rear.
    Bloody hell guys, at least wait for a couple of testing days !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    How are we getting any airflow with that flat nose?
    You suck it in like a vacuum cleaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    Mclaren- complete redesign, sleek and tight packaging
    Wiliams - complete redesign
    Lotus - redesign, innovative husk front wing

    Ferrari - f138 with air-blocking nose

    This car exudes confidence for all of us.
    I disagree, the 3 teams come from behind and I need to change the philosophy, not redesign ensures you to be fast. Willams? what car .. only saw a drawing, Renault same. The Mclaren ... always seem new philosophy .. but they are slow as captain of top gear ... Come a little Forza! Ferrari not need to start from scratch, you need to make the package work. example: all red bull were grown with the same philosophy.
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    The nose is BEAUTIFUL Well done FERRARI but the car livery is not impressive, especially rear end of the car.
    it looks like to Marussia 2013 car

    But i think there is a reason that rear end of the car is fully black.

    The rear end of the F14T is beautiful from back view
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    Bottom edges of the sidepods have gone like RBRs, so will help keep the Y250 vortex attached and air flow around them better this year to the rear. Finally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacquesvw View Post
    You suck it in like a vacuum cleaner.
    underneath
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    You can see why they have chosen the fully black rear. With the increased contrast on the photos, you can't see anything there. Looks like we are hiding something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyss4k View Post
    You can see why they have chosen the fully black rear. With the increased contrast on the photos, you can't see anything there. Looks like we are hiding something.


    isnt the finished product
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    I just get the idea!
    This nose actually have sense if first wing will be in-wash!
    Can anyone confirm my theory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ferrari1.8t View Post
    That's really the only disappointing part...it looks like an evolution rather than a fresh new idea from the ground up. I'll hold faith for the designers and team that they have designed a fast, race winning car. But for l those who think the nose will be changed come Australia, don't hold your breath. Ferrari are not into sandbagging and wasting time producing false wings. Just my opinion.

    Forza Ferrari and all the best to a competitive season!
    To be fair in this era, doesn't mechanical evolution and improvement matter more now too?

    I have no idea if it looks extreme or whatnot anymore, just that it produces the good on the track. MP4-26, F2012, MP4-28 all 'looked' extreme while RBR plodded along to 4 straight titles with 'evolutions'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Bottom edges of the sidepods have gone like RBRs, so will help keep the Y250 vortex attached and air flow around them better this year to the rear. Finally.
    I noticed this too, it's almost like RBRs but not quite there yet, hopefully some aero updates will set them straight. It's a little like what Sauber tried to achieve last year, except that they got their exhausts wrong.
    Teams will still be able to feed air to the diffuser, only this time not with hot air but rather by using vortices to seal the gaps. Red Bull used vortices very well last year, as demonstrated by FOM video feeds during last year's Brazilian GP, and they will do it again this year.
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    f14t-rearview.jpg

    If this season goes as we all would like it to, RB & Merc will see a lot of this view of our car, should make for nice scenery for them!

    I rather like what the team has done with the cars looks, but like every other year proof will be on the track! So far so good though.

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    When i saw the car I honestly didnt't get the feeling of " this car looks quick" and somehow I am not so optimistic for this season
    I think James Allison has arrived just too late to have a significant influence at the F14-T's developement.

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    Just relax guys,the car is just a suit.It is kind of a mock up and obviously they are not that dumb to show all the innovations when you know the other ones are doing exactly the same.I find the car very,very aggressive,and inspite of the new regulations we have reduced coolings opening,and an incredible high chassis and that tell me something;
    1 the nose makes non sense at all,it is just there for the launch,PERIOD!
    2 the final car will be incredibily aggressive,i hope it is sufficient to fight for both WDC and WCC.
    So just wait and see guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacquesvw View Post
    You suck it in like a vacuum cleaner.
    Spot on. Are behind the nose looks larger than others. The idea is to suck the air into the large space behind the low nose. Others have a blockage dead centre which will affect quality of air to the spliter. By creating a suction zone they get faster moving air and hence more air to to the spliter on the Ferrari. This is the idea i do not see the confusion, whether it works will not know yet but great to see a completly different solution. People get worried to be different in fear they got it wrong but if they get it right its a huge advantave. Great ferrari have used a different concept and if Red Bull have this solution everyone will be saying its the way to go. I get the idea just hope it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSS EL BOSS View Post
    When i saw the car I honestly didnt't get the feeling of " thtt car looks quick" and somehow I am not so optimistic for this season
    I think James Allison has arrived just too late to have a significant influence at the F14-T's developement.
    When Allison arrived he said that he has had no influence on the car and will play a bigger role in the 2015 car. Right now he's job is to help Pat Fry with the restructuring and help the team get the most out of the tools(new) they have at their disposal.
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    some parts will obv be missing like conditioners on the sidepods etc just like McLaren did but forgot to take them off their 3D model, but im afraid imo that nose is here to stay...ugliest car so far, cant wait to hear some analysis from the tech gurus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark p View Post
    Spot on. Are behind the nose looks larger than others. The idea is to suck the air into the large space behind the low nose. Others have a blockage dead centre which will affect quality of air to the spliter. By creating a suction zone they get faster moving air and hence more air to to the spliter on the Ferrari. This is the idea i do not see the confusion, whether it works will not know yet but great to see a completly different solution. People get worried to be different in fear they got it wrong but if they get it right its a huge advantave. Great ferrari have used a different concept and if Red Bull have this solution everyone will be saying its the way to go. I get the idea just hope it works.
    To increase the speed of the air you have to suck it from bigger space to smaller. Here, there is no big intake. For me, the best solution so far has the Lotus.

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    ALSO LOOK AT SAUBER LAST YEAR>>>>VERY NARROW SIDEPODS WERE TO THEIR DETRIMENT, PARTLY BECAUSE LARGE SIDEBODS HELPED DIRECT AIR INTO THE COKE BOTTLE AREA FOR EXHAUST WHICH IS NO LONGER THEIR>>>HOPING IT WORKS!

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