F14-T- Development & News

[Jas]

must be a very slow week on the news front, however I did notice it im not gunna lie, the depth and "words" of sidom he came out with eg, stay clam, must focus etc...not the kimi of old with his one liners

[Jas]

this incase anyone was very very very bored: http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi..._ones_at_that/

[erikejw]

hahaha remember all of the rumours when the engine was being developed pre season that we had found some exotic materials and our engine was going to be awesome.. FAIL. hahahahaha

Well, if it is true that it is 13kg overweight then it is an easy problem to solve compared to others. Maybe the car itself isn't overweight and we will have 13kg of ballast to distribute wich will be very beneficial. FIA will probably be lenient to any engine that is behind, they don't want an engine formula.

[Jas]

McLaren EXPECTING to be half a second quicker in Malaysia #confident:

These intercontinental races limit how fast you can develop the car, but nevertheless we're going to give it our best shot. We're confident that we will be half a second quicker at the next grand prix for a variety of reasons. That's not going to be enough to achieve our goal but that will keep the pressure on the teams that are chasing us.”

[LivingHitokiri]

this incase anyone was very very very bored: http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi..._ones_at_that/

lol we are using Kimi to damage control ?
Not sure how that will work out.

[Ferrari Man]

McLaren EXPECTING to be half a second quicker in Malaysia #confident:

These intercontinental races limit how fast you can develop the car, but nevertheless we're going to give it our best shot. We're confident that we will be half a second quicker at the next grand prix for a variety of reasons. That's not going to be enough to achieve our goal but that will keep the pressure on the teams that are chasing us.”

With the new regs changes teams will be able to make big leaps in progress as they learn about their cars and develop.. Here's hopin for Ferrari to find 1 second...

[F1NAC]

McLaren EXPECTING to be half a second quicker in Malaysia #confident:

These intercontinental races limit how fast you can develop the car, but nevertheless we're going to give it our best shot. We're confident that we will be half a second quicker at the next grand prix for a variety of reasons. That's not going to be enough to achieve our goal but that will keep the pressure on the teams that are chasing us.”

yes but they will have a much bigger drag than others on the straights becaus of bell ring suspension.

[mark p]

McLaren EXPECTING to be half a second quicker in Malaysia #confident:

These intercontinental races limit how fast you can develop the car, but nevertheless we're going to give it our best shot. We're confident that we will be half a second quicker at the next grand prix for a variety of reasons. That's not going to be enough to achieve our goal but that will keep the pressure on the teams that are chasing us.”

Great news. When McLaren start talking themselves up they get worse so I take this to mean they will now start to fall back.

[Nero Horse]

Great news. When McLaren start talking themselves up they get worse so I take this to mean they will now start to fall back.

Nice one!

[Jas]

Ron dennis...seaking sponsorship...tbh they have always been exceptional at developing a car it must be said!

[tifosi1993]

Ron dennis...seaking sponsorship...tbh they have always been exceptional at developing a car it must be said!

Like last year?

[LF1Torsion]

this incase anyone was very very very bored: http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/vi..._ones_at_that/

It is funny, for the author to make such a big deal about something so insignificant, just shows that they have no real news or any opinion of significance to report.

Most of the things which is mentioned in the article did come from Kimi over different parts of the race weekend anyway - just may be not using those same exact words.

[Jas]

Like last year?

last year they gave up like most teams...but I have to admit in the past they've been great!

[shamim179]

last year they gave up like most teams...but I have to admit in the past they've been great!

Last year they improved their car considerably. They started the year with an awful car. Whereas we went steadily backwards. We've got to be one of the worst at developing the car in terms of effectiveness but hopefully this year it's going to remarkably different.

[NickEice]

It's sad but true, McLaren has always been very good at development. I mean they created DRS with the F-Duct.

[eugene22n]

It's all about the new wind tunnel. If our updates stop working mid year like the last couple of season then we know we are still in the hole.

It's true that there are no signs of exceptional creativity at Ferrari right now.

[ntukza]

It's all about the new wind tunnel. If our updates stop working mid year like the last couple of season then we know we are still in the hole.

It's true that there are no signs of exceptional creativity at Ferrari right now.

A few months ago it was also all about the engine. We've lost that one and now we're clutching at what's left. I can't believe we're in this situation again. We're a sorry bunch. But, it doesn't feel as depressing as it has done in the past. I'm getting used to this.

[bondilad]

A few months ago it was also all about the engine. We've lost that one and now we're clutching at what's left. I can't believe we're in this situation again. We're a sorry bunch. But, it doesn't feel as depressing as it has done in the past. I'm getting used to this.

Sadly I have to agree with you. During the race I was waiting for the front runners to retire so that alonso could be on the podium. Clearly this is not what we all hoped for. Really wish this was just down to our engine not running at full power and they find a solution in time for the next race.

Any news from ferrari regarding developments for Malaysia? So far I couldn't find any articles from ferrari.

[mait]

Engine vise, what terrifies me is the lack of pace other two Ferrari engine using teams in Melbourne. Sauber was nowhere and also Marussi was further behind than last year. Hope that its not the Ferrari PO but Sauber's lack of budget and resulting poor aerodynamics and similarly Marussias poor car and not PO. But still I had the feeling that Caterham had much much better straight line speed compared to Marussia and Toro Rosso was also faster on straights than Sauber.

[mirafiori]

Engine vise, what terrifies me is the lack of pace other two Ferrari engine using teams in Melbourne. Sauber was nowhere and also Marussi was further behind than last year. Hope that its not the Ferrari PO but Sauber's lack of budget and resulting poor aerodynamics and similarly Marussias poor car and not PO. But still I had the feeling that Caterham had much much better straight line speed compared to Marussia and Toro Rosso was also faster on straights than Sauber.

You make a good point, especially as it is your first comment on this forum. I'am sure Ferrari engineers are aware of this and will be working around the clock to give us and possibly other teams using the Ferrari package more speed. Welcome to the forum.

[mirafiori]

Just to add to the above post, we must remember this was our first race using the new engine technology and reliability will be key to scoring many points. knowing how Ferrari have worked in the past and as it was the first race i'am sure all Ferrari engines would of been used in a Conservative manner, hopefully engine power will be increased in the next races.

[shamim179]

If Ferrari can upgrade their ERS by 30% which is around 40bhp that equates to an improvement of about 4-5 tenths per lap. Which means we'll still be behind Mercedes but comfortably ahead of McLaren and Williams. Bear in mind that we'll also bring other improvements too that will add add another few tenths. I must say I am skeptical about Ferrari's ability at developing the car going by past experience but hopefully a working windtunnel will drastically change things for us.

[gazoz]

If Ferrari can upgrade their ERS by 30% which is around 40bhp that equates to an improvement of about 4-5 tenths per lap. Which means we'll still be behind Mercedes but comfortably ahead of McLaren and Williams. Bear in mind that we'll also bring other improvements too that will add add another few tenths. I must say I am skeptical about Ferrari's ability at developing the car going by past experience but hopefully a working windtunnel will drastically change things for us.

i disagree with you ferrari has always been strong art developing there cars maybe the best, except last two seasons with the tunnel business, but look at each year previously they have been one of the best if not best

[Nero Horse]

Last year they improved their car considerably. They started the year with an awful car. Whereas we went steadily backwards. We've got to be one of the worst at developing the car in terms of effectiveness but hopefully this year it's going to remarkably different.

"Considerably"? No, not really...they just didn't get worse, but of course it's pretty hard to get any worse than what they were in the beginning of last season lol.

[mark p]

It's sad but true, McLaren has always been very good at development. I mean they created DRS with the F-Duct.

So great in the past 16 seasons they won 1 constructors and 3 drivers putting them behind Ferrari, Redbull and level with Renault. This myth occured due to 2009 when by luck their design could fit in a fully working ddd. In 2012 they started 1st and finished 3rd in constructors. In the past 5 years one team has got better and better during each season and sadly thats Redbull. With a working windtunnel Ferrari will be very good at developing. Current issues appear to be pu related however. To the member saying 30% ers improvement is 40 hp and 0.5 seconds I read the 30% as meaning from the current starting point not 30% of overall ers potential. Also brake by wire can reduce lap time by an untold amount due to increased driver confidence so 1 second combined is not out of the question.

[f300v10]

Tobias Grüner of AMUS is reporting that the Ferrari PU turbo layout is similar to that of Mercedes. Turbine at the rear, MGU-H in the middle of the V, compressor at the front. Wonder how long it will be before we see actual photos of the three power units.

[Ferris]

Tobias Grüner of AMUS is reporting that the Ferrari PU turbo layout is similar to that of Mercedes. Turbine at the rear, MGU-H in the middle of the V, compressor at the front. Wonder how long it will be before we see actual photos of the three power units.

If this is true that is good news.

[Winter]

If Ferrari can upgrade their ERS by 30% which is around 40bhp that equates to an improvement of about 4-5 tenths per lap. Which means we'll still be behind Mercedes but comfortably ahead of McLaren and Williams. Bear in mind that we'll also bring other improvements too that will add add another few tenths. I must say I am skeptical about Ferrari's ability at developing the car going by past experience but hopefully a working windtunnel will drastically change things for us.

That 30% would help more than just that half a second in lap time, it would save fuel too and make it possible to push more of those "racing" laps.
I mean had we even chance to take all out of our combustion unit if ERS wasn't used at full, or was the comb.engine turned down too for saving fuel?

[NickEice]

So great in the past 16 seasons they won 1 constructors and 3 drivers putting them behind Ferrari, Redbull and level with Renault. This myth occured due to 2009 when by luck their design could fit in a fully working ddd. In 2012 they started 1st and finished 3rd in constructors. In the past 5 years one team has got better and better during each season and sadly thats Redbull. With a working windtunnel Ferrari will be very good at developing. Current issues appear to be pu related however. To the member saying 30% ers improvement is 40 hp and 0.5 seconds I read the 30% as meaning from the current starting point not 30% of overall ers potential. Also brake by wire can reduce lap time by an untold amount due to increased driver confidence so 1 second combined is not out of the question.

Hey man, I dislike McLaren as much as the next Tifoso, but they are good at developing the car and often come up with unique designs and solutions. If you remember, they had the fastest car at the end of 2012 winning in both Texas and Brazil along with leading Singapore until Hamilton has DNF'd. They were probably the most deserving team to win the championship that year but some awful pit stops, not leaving a liter of fuel for Hamilton in Spain, questionable strategy calls and some untimely reliability problems were their undoing. Their poor conversion of opportunities over the last decade has often come down more to Strategy and politics (see 2007) than anything else.

But this is the F14T Development thread, not a McLaren forum so lets move on.

[blaney1977]

I'm trying too understand the ers system? Does it mean that too run at a pace with ers not at full power we are using more fuel from the engine making it more thirsty?