F14-T- Development & News

[Kyss4k]

I think Hulkenberg's option, too. He said, I think, during Malaysian GP, that Ferrari is very good in corners.

I don't think so when it is about cornering. I think F14T is better than Mercedes in cornering 'cause Hulkenberg said so.

It is not. Just look at the onboards. Merc is so smooth. More than Ferrari. Even observations of Brundle in high speed turns this weekend leads to that conclusion. We have the 3rd best aero as of now.

[Kyss4k]

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[PadGeT]

It is not. Just look at the onboards. Merc is so smooth. More than Ferrari. Even observations of Brundle in high speed turns this weekend leads to that conclusion. We have the 3rd best aero as of now.

Brundle, Ohhhh Brundle!!!! By da way, my comment didnt need to be fixed. Its your opinion and you are trying to force me to agree with yours.

[mark p]

It is not. Just look at the onboards. Merc is so smooth. More than Ferrari. Even observations of Brundle in high speed turns this weekend leads to that conclusion. We have the 3rd best aero as of now.

If so do you believe this to be all aero, all engine mapping or equal amount of both?

[Cheeseman]

but of course ! he is a descent man, in fact he's got lots of class. SD is the man he worked with for a number of years, why would he not do that ? It was the right and classy thing to do. That is what it means. It's got nothing to do with FA opinion of SD in terms of leader of Ferrari F1.

What is Fernando's opinion on Stefano as team leader then?

[Ophidian786]

I don’t think we should get carried away with this result, though it is a huge relief.

Our raw speed is still well down on Mercedes and RB - as demonstrated in qualifying (even if it was raining, 1.7 seconds is really not good).

Despite this, sounds defeatist, but if we can challenge for 3rd all year, I will be happy.

[mark p]

I don’t think we should get carried away with this result, though it is a huge relief.

Our raw speed is still well down on Mercedes and RB - as demonstrated in qualifying (even if it was raining, 1.7 seconds is really not good).

Despite this, sounds defeatist, but if we can challenge for 3rd all year, I will be happy.

The gap was over 2 seconds a lap last race today around 1 second to Merc and about level with RedBull. Although circuit characteristics count for some of this the start was the best so far, top speed was such RedBull could not get by with drs, Ferrari appeared to gain at least half a second maybe more on RedBull and Merc with mainly non visible upgrades. Maybe more to come next race. As things stand though without a long straight ie at Monaco RedBull are still 2nd fastest but what a turnaround with easily beating the lesser teams?

Just hope both cars can start to be up there as gap between Ferrari drivers was to large and no reports of issues with other car.

[Hornet]

That problem has always existed in all forms of racing,Go karts/MotoGp/Etc.
If this is really what is happening to Kimi the latest large front brake duct and air outlet at the wheel nut will hurt him even more.The current harder Pirelli rubber will surely not help.He might not have that problem when the temperatures start getting higher in the next races..

The larger duct is to channel air out the wheelnut to help with the tire wake. The only cooling present in the wheel is brake cooling, and you cannot mess around with brake cooling as brake temperature is as critical too.

Not that it have that significant influence on the tire temp anyway. The team cannot simply reduce brake cooling in hopes of increasing tire temp

[Ed Harley]

It is a question of how much brake generated heat is "stored" in the wheel thus warming up the tyre. All teams today should do this somehow but here's a glimpse of Mercedes idea:

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/0...f-tyre-issues/

[Kingdom Hearts]

I don’t think we should get carried away with this result, though it is a huge relief.

Our raw speed is still well down on Mercedes and RB - as demonstrated in qualifying (even if it was raining, 1.7 seconds is really not good).

Despite this, sounds defeatist, but if we can challenge for 3rd all year, I will be happy.

I agree with you, people is already reading too much into this race. This happen in the past too, a good race and everyone is already dreamy. We are behind RB and we need a massive upgrade for Barcelona and to be honest I think RB or even Mercedes will have a better chance to make that big step before us. At least let's hope that from Barcelona we are the 3rd best time for the rest of the season and we an work our way up from there.

[Hornet]

It is a question of how much brake generated heat is "stored" in the wheel thus warming up the tyre. All teams today should do this somehow but here's a glimpse of Mercedes idea:

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/0...f-tyre-issues/

Ferrari have done something similar by using a black band to absorb heat this year, perhaps not as aggressive as that heatsink design, but could be due to weight issues this year.

Anyway, we certainly cannot reduce cooling in an attempt to keep more heat as the brakes have very narrow operating temperature as well and they cannot be allow to exceed it's operating range. Hence we sometimes hear drivers being told to cool their brakes during races and this affects lap time when they have to do so, so it's counter productive.

[Hombre B]

According to the RAI (Italian chain), Ferrari will almost Version B car in Spain and the PU will work 100%.

[abbottcostello]

but of course ! he is a descent man, in fact he's got lots of class. SD is the man he worked with for a number of years, why would he not do that ? It was the right and classy thing to do. That is what it means. It's got nothing to do with FA opinion of SD in terms of leader of Ferrari F1.

Just so I understand, the car's improvement that appears to have narrowed our performance gap to the merc, RB, Williams & FI teams is due to the change in Ferrari's TP? How did this happen, MM came in & told them to use the parts on the car the SD had not been allowing them to change? Or maybe he implemented all the ideas they have been putting in the "suggestion box" for the last 6 months that SD was purposely ignoring?
To be sure, even if there is some attitude change in the team, where everybody is happier, how exactly would that translate into more power, better handling or increased aero efficiency in 4 days time. Or maybe he just asked them to give the effort another 20% more than the measly 100% they were doing for SD?

[Ed Harley]

I probably sound like a broken record but you do not necessarily jeopardize brake cooling efficiency if you increase the heat energy storage capacity of the wheel. But I do believe the team does know all this already much better than rest of us and are looking at different solutions if needed.

[Kyss4k]

Brundle, Ohhhh Brundle!!!! By da way, my comment didnt need to be fixed. Its your opinion and you are trying to force me to agree with yours.

I'm not forcing you to anythong mate. Be cool.

[killer]

According to the RAI (Italian chain), Ferrari will almost Version B car in Spain and the PU will work 100%.

May we have a link, please?

[Kyss4k]

If so do you believe this to be all aero, all engine mapping or equal amount of both?

Well Merc is obviously ahead with the engine. Not only the power, but the power delivery as well and that improves driveability. That's why they have great traction out of slow corners probably. But it won't help you in high speed turns, thats where aero comes. And as they look smoother, with less corrections, they have bigger downforce than us. Not by as huge margin as they are better in the engine department though.

[Gould]

According to the RAI (Italian chain), Ferrari will almost Version B car in Spain and the PU will work 100%.

I hope you're right but I find it hard to believe. If we have been running the PU at 80% on purpose we may have lost the WDC because of it, by being too conservative. If we have been running it at 80% because we couldn't extract the last 20% then why all of a sudden are we able to?

[zike]

I hope you're right but I find it hard to believe. If we have been running the PU at 80% on purpose we may have lost the WDC because of it, by being too conservative. If we have been running it at 80% because we couldn't extract the last 20% then why all of a sudden are we able to?

Maybe we solved the problem in 2 months since testing

[Muhammad Ansib]

I read somewhere that Ferrari probably doing a bit of testing in the weeks before the next race. Any idea if its true?

[Paulpg87]

According to the RAI (Italian chain), Ferrari will almost Version B car in Spain and the PU will work 100%.

Yes, i heard it too in televesion (RAI is national tv, Radio Televisione Italiana) they said we will almost have a version B of the car and a power up for PU. Moreover, during the race, Ivan Capelli said that also RBR will have a version B of the car and massive upgrades are rumored for them. he said that RBR will be so revised that they are crash testing again the car with all the new parts and FIA has a lot of work to do with them.

[zike]

I read somewhere that Ferrari probably doing a bit of testing in the weeks before the next race. Any idea if its true?

As far as I know, second in season testing sesion is after the race

[SilverSpeed]

There simply is no B spec version planned Jezus...

[Gould]

Yes who keep quotin Rai saying that we are bringing a B-spec car to Barcelona in 3 weeks? Where are these sources?

[zike]

Yes who keep quotin Rai saying that we are bringing a B-spec car to Barcelona in 3 weeks? Where are these sources?

the B spec rumor has started at Malaysian GP, so if the rumor is truth they had plenty of time to make all of the parts

[Paulpg87]

Yes who keep quotin Rai saying that we are bringing a B-spec car to Barcelona in 3 weeks? Where are these sources?

Ivan Capelli during the race and the paddock interview post race. I don't know if it has been written somewhere in an article, i don't think so, i was watching the race and they said what i've written few post ago.

However not fully reliable at RAI

Note: rai stays for television is not raikkonen

[zike]

But I think that this season, if we can not win, should be used as a test ground, trying to make the car better and better race after race.......something like RB in 09

[sachin]

No believing in rumors,whether its B or C spec,whatever upgrades Ferrari bring,they should make us real fast and not bring those upgrades that lead to embarrassment.

[zike]

Helmut marko says that much of the progress made by ferrari in china was due to a new shell fuel.

hahahahahahaha, yes Shell gave us rocket fuel

[windwaves]

yes, that is confirmed somewhere else by Gian Carlo Minardi.

He believes continued improvements are expected from fuel research. This was actually very much discussed pre-season, that is, how Ferrari was counting on certain developments in the works at Shell.

And of course Helmut fails to mention that another big piece of the progress is a guy named Alonso.

But, yes, not much really otherwise in terms of the car development, yet.