Jerez Testing (finally)

**Nero Horse** · 29th January 2014, 20:44

Originally Posted by Dino

Ferrari F1 will never be all black,but
The black paint has thermal functions

It is a particular polymer that has a very important feature: it is 10 times lighter than a normal painting and especially has a very high thermal conductivity (8 times higher than that of copper). We can understand then why Ferrari had chosen to paint with this polymer such a sensitive area : better heat evacuation, and a sensible weight reduction.

Thanks for this explanation, it makes a whole lot of sense now.

**RedPassion** · 29th January 2014, 20:44

Originally Posted by giodap

i think it was testing last year he said that mclaren were on the pace... haha

He didnt specified with what.

**Nero Horse** · 29th January 2014, 20:57

Originally Posted by Ferrari Rules

http://somersf1.blogspot.co.uk/2014/...one-wings.html

Mclaren rear suspension detailed

Could this give them a huge advantage? Have we missed the innovation train already? I certainly hope not. *sigh*

**Rob** · 29th January 2014, 20:58

Kimi: “Two positive days”

Circuit: Jerez circuit – 4.428 km
Driver: Kimi Raikkonen
Car: Ferrari F14 T
Weather: air temperature 9/14°C, track temperature 10/15 °C. Light rain in the morning, sunny and cloudy in the afternoon.
Laps/Kms completed: 47/208
Best time: 1:24.812

Second day of testing at the Jerez de la Frontera circuit for Kimi Raikkonen at the wheel of the F14 T.

Because of the wet start to the day, the morning programme began with the testing requested by Pirelli, relating to development of their wet weather tyres. The Scuderia was quickly able to assess the intermediate tyres, thus making the most of the time remaining and the progressively drying track to begin work on the car in preparation for the afternoon’s programme.

By the end of the day, Raikkonen had managed to complete a total of 47 laps, the fastest in a time of 1.24.812. He continued the task of checking the car’s functionality as well as trying a few set-up changes.

“Every time we go out on track we learn something new” – said Kimi to www.ferrari.com – “This week the times don’t matter and the only thing that does is to do a good number of laps without any problems and fortunately, we have managed that on both days. The team is working hard and at the next test in Bahrain, we will continue to improve.”

Testing continues at this circuit tomorrow, when Fernando Alonso will make his season debut on track.

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/kim....fVM36A8r.dpuf

**Rob** · 29th January 2014, 20:59

Allison on Kimi: “Very strong, incredibly precise”

Jerez de la Frontera, 29 January –A good start with Kimi Raikkonen and James Allison on the same wavelength at the end of the second of four days of testing at the Jerez circuit in southern Spain.

“We have obtained some good baselines from which to continue the development of the F14 T,” said the Scuderia’s Technical Director, talking to www.ferrari.com. “We are working mainly on car reliability and so far, we can claim to be reasonably satisfied because, even though we are talking about a car that’s almost totally new, we haven’t encountered any particular problems. We are also happy with the data parameters we have seen in terms of cooling, as well as those relating to aerodynamic downforce: both of them have matched our expectations.”

Asked for an opinion on Kimi’s second debut in red, Allison had this to say. “He is still the same strong driver, with his usual phlegmatic approach,” added the Englishman with a smile. “It’s difficult for him to get over excited about something, but he gives the engineers the feedback they need to do their job. He might not say much, but he is incredibly accurate when it comes to explain what needs to be done to make the car quicker.”

Allison confessed to not having paid the slightest attention to what the other teams have been doing, therefore he is unable to give an opinion on how competitive the F14 T might be. “There’s too much to do to think about the others. We have to keep an eye on every detail, because it only takes the smallest thing to leave you stranded. Between now and Melbourne, we will have to organise every last detail to be ready for the first race.”

- See more at: http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/all....mOrhiKao.dpuf

**Ferrari Rules** · 29th January 2014, 21:13

Originally Posted by Nero Horse

Could this give them a huge advantage? Have we missed the innovation train already? I certainly hope not. *sigh*

I hope not. What worries me a little is that I don't see anything on the car that impresses me at all. Our rear is tight but the RB10's is even tighter, let's not forget they are Renault F1's development team at the end of the day, so they have played a big part on the development of the engine and Renault made sure to suite Newey's needs. Mclaren have thought outside the box and have designed something new which make a lot sense aerodynamically. Us... I'm not sure yet.

Sincerely, this car does not excite me at all! Hope that my pessimism ends up in the bin when we arrive in Melbourne.

**Ste** · 29th January 2014, 21:18

Gary Anderson says our car is similar to the last few - the rear gives up on braking and acceleration and that's not a good trait.

Hopefully he's talking as much rubbish as usual...

**Nero Horse** · 29th January 2014, 21:21

Originally Posted by Ferrari Rules

Hope that my pessimism ends up in the bin when we arrive in Melbourne.

I hope so too LOL.

Let's look at things on the positive side, we are the team that has made the most problem free start to testing so far, and hopefully we'll continue improving every day.

**xpman** · 29th January 2014, 21:32

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I read that Mr Newey has expressed his concerns over the safety of lower noses on the cars.
I think is coz he's Unable to come up with a nose design that will Dominate and so he comes up with this to help SV "gently" push cars off ( lol ) the fact that Torro Rosso have questioned the legality of the Lotus design . A 2 prong attack 1 on the legality of a rival team and under the disguise of concern of safety as a hole over All cars.

**Lilani** · 29th January 2014, 21:41

Originally Posted by AfterLife

No.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/188728/...ers-title.html

Last year after the first tests Gary Anderson said Mclaren was properly on top. He thought Red Bull might be behind and he never said anything about Lotus doing well. From what I ve seen his predictions haven't always been the most accurate.

As for Gary Anderson's perceptions about the car, it might be true but perhaps it should also be remembered that Kimi drives more with of an oversteering style.

**radosav** · 29th January 2014, 21:58

Originally Posted by Ste

Gary Anderson says our car is similar to the last few - the rear gives up on braking and acceleration and that's not a good trait.

Hopefully he's talking as much rubbish as usual...

Well, i am not so sure!!!

**Jose Lorca** · 29th January 2014, 22:01

Originally Posted by medeni73

Gary Anderson again repeats that our car is $§%&
" The Ferrari looks very similar to how it was in previous years. If anything gives up, it's the rear end that's losing out on corner entry and exit, which is not a good characteristic."

Does he really hate us so much or what? :)

I wouldn't pay much attention to Anderson at this point. Just yesterday he said that Red Bull looked the strongest

We haven't done any set-up work, the track was green and low track temperatures mean tyres were cold. In these conditions I would expect everyone to struggle, and if other cars looked stable, it's because their drivers weren't trying hard enough.

**stefa** · 29th January 2014, 22:12

Originally Posted by Ferrari Rules

I see a lot people worried about paint when they should be worried by a clever rear suspension design by McClaren.

Let's first see how that work and how big is the gain from it...

**stefa** · 29th January 2014, 22:17

Originally Posted by medeni73

Let me put it another way: if in a fairytale someone comes up to you and say we GUARANTEE you WCC but the car must be ALL black you would say NO??? and after that you would say you're tifosi????
after all bunch of you guys cried before car revealing "if its fast and if it wins we dont care how it looks!" and what is it now????

I was one from the group "if its fast and if it wins we don't care how it looks!", and I still stick to it, but it is still early to judge is it fast... So the looks still matters to me

**Jas** · 30th January 2014, 00:24

When pushed on the exact cause of Red Bull's engine fire, Taffin insisted it was nothing to do with the design of the power unit, instead he hinted that Red Bull's car design may have been the cause. "No," he replied. "You may need to ask my colleagues at Red Bull [what caused that problem]. "It's the different intergration [between teams]," he added, suggesting Red Bull are packaging the unit differently to Toro Rosso and Caterham. It's believed Red Bull aren't providing enough cooling to certain areas of the power unit, particularly the energy recovery system. This could have caused the brief fire which curtailed their running. Red Bull have completed just 11 laps over two days, whilst Toro Rosso has done 15 (all on Tuesday) and Caterham 12 (all but one on Wednesday). - See more at: http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/displa....FcRCoM5P.dpuf

**fronaldo** · 30th January 2014, 00:59

Is it too early to raise doubt about our car?..Lets see..but clever from Mclaren for their rear suspension design

**Winter** · 30th January 2014, 01:34

Originally Posted by stefa

This year is going to be my 20th anniversary of going to Hungaroring. When time comes for it if you need I'll send you some tips and trick for Hungaroring

This year will be my fist time of going to Hungary, or to any F1 GP at all.. I would be very gratefull , if you could give me some pointers as well.
I'm going to stay couple of weeks in Budapest, so any Hungary tips would be more than welcome.

And happy anniversary, you really must like the place

**Ste** · 30th January 2014, 01:37

If anyone wants one of the nicest pictures of our car, WITHOUT a pitot tube on, you can download it from the link below. I photoshopped it out.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...hout_pitot.jpg

**Nero Horse** · 30th January 2014, 01:42

Originally Posted by radosav

Well, i am not so sure!!!

You don't even know what caused that spin in the first place. It could've very well have been a simple mistake from Kimi himself and not because of the lack of grip in the rear.

**radosav** · 30th January 2014, 01:53

Originally Posted by Nero Horse

You don't even know what caused that spin in the first place. It could've very well have been a simple mistake from Kimi himself and not because of the lack of grip in the rear.

yes , it could be anything. i was reading that teams have problem with rear brakes cause of ''brake by wire'' system, and need to find right algorithms to find right balance between braking and ERS harvesting.

**Nero Horse** · 30th January 2014, 01:58

Originally Posted by radosav

yes , it could be anything. i was reading that teams have problem with rear brakes cause of ''brake by wire'' system, and need to find right algorithms to find right balance between braking and ERS harvesting.

Well, there you go...

**radosav** · 30th January 2014, 02:05

I still wanna hear this ferrari live. OMG !!!!

**Richred** · 30th January 2014, 02:35

Originally Posted by Nero Horse

You don't even know what caused that spin in the first place. It could've very well have been a simple mistake from Kimi himself and not because of the lack of grip in the rear.

And our aero its, at the moment, really fairly simple.

**Ed Harley** · 30th January 2014, 06:10

Interviews after 2nd day. James Allison's comments start around 10:58.

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/vide...2%80%93-update

**anialonso** · 30th January 2014, 06:35

Originally Posted by Ste

Gary Anderson says our car is similar to the last few - the rear gives up on braking and acceleration and that's not a good trait.

Hopefully he's talking as much rubbish as usual...

He cant rate our car,not just yet when we do not have our latest Aero updates which will planned for Bahrain test,there we will see how the F14T handles.
And we also dont know the fuel loads,carry heavy fuel would easily make a car look twitchy and oversteery
But its quite irritating to see that everybody blames Ferrari to be conservative,based on their inspection they probably feel that ToroRosso can build a better car than Ferrari.

**Avantifer12** · 30th January 2014, 06:56

Read this rumor on Twitter yesterday from Darren Heath @F1Photographer if it's true I find it very amusing

https://twitter.com/F1Photographer/s...79360128262144

**Avantifer12** · 30th January 2014, 07:54

Originally Posted by Richred

And our aero its, at the moment, really fairly simple.

I wouldn't say so actually, Starting with our nose it looks quite developed and having seen the flow visualisation we could see how the air is 'rolling' off the nose and under, our sidepods looks to be very carefully desgined and the flow conditioners on top of the sidepods takes time to get right which I think we have. The RW looks complex maybe the most complex with all cutouts and strakes. The FW is where I could say it looks fairly simple compared to others. A area that I recently discovered was our diffuser particular the middle part that looks interesting I don't know if it brings any big gains but I guess it could create downforce with less drag if you apply the FW theory (more elements is better)

The spin looked strange, he had no grip at all and if you look closely I think he is locking up so my nominee for the cause is cold tyres. I haven't had a look at the new brake balance system but that could also been a factor.

**Senna4Ever** · 30th January 2014, 07:57

Originally Posted by Tony

Haha! Entrance is free but you have to agree to form an angry mob with me and my other members (as soon as I get them lol) and storm Milton Keynes with pitchkforks and tomato sauce (or just really old, rotten, tomatoes) !! ;)

:)
That is fine for me
I can send a short video "Senna4Ever in rage" for application if I fit to your requirements.
Also I have customer in Milton Keynes (and it is not RB) ... so I could hide it as a business trip ;)

Back to business:
- personally I quiet happy with the reliability so far. Of course not that much Merc was able to do but still good for us
- I like the look of the car more and more the more pictures I see from track ...

#GoodJobFerrari!!!! so far

Even if it makes me smile that RB and Renault is struggling right now it is much too early to count them out. We know that they can bounce back ...
But more important for me is to see how Finger Boy will react if it isn't running his way ... how strong will his love be for RB ...