Bahrain testing 27 Feb-2 Mar

**Ste** · 2nd March 2014, 19:00

Hamilton set his best time on softs. He used super softs at the end but made mistakes on both laps. Source - AMUS

**evo_spook** · 2nd March 2014, 19:03

Also here:
http://www.pirelli.com/corporate/en/...ruary-2-march/

**hrc5555** · 2nd March 2014, 19:03

Originally Posted by Ste

Hamilton set his best time on softs. He used super softs at the end but made mistakes on both laps. Source - AMUS

I would like get back to gear ratios of Williams. It can be the case that they did a gamble and take very short gears so they can be very quick on slow tracks and get big points but than loose big time on fast tracks. On Bahrain circuit acceleration is very important and that could be the reason why they are so fast in qualy sim. Plus that they could underweight car a little...

And I am comforting myself with possible scenario of Mercedes-Ferrari engine war. If Mercedes really have 50-70hp more than us, they can use that difference only in qualifications because of restricted fuel consumption in race. In theory more hp means bigger fuel consumption and there comes Ferrari with less hp lighter engine and better fuel consumption, so we should have better race pace. I pray this will be the case!

So far it looks like we are at least behind Mercedes and I find this the only way to beat them in first fue races.

And if I think better tires could play a part here too! Anyone have some info of how kind on tires is our car?

**khizerk** · 2nd March 2014, 19:04

By saying mercedes is a monster and we are smaller, I believe Stefano is referring to Ferrari as an engine supplier. Let's face it guys developing turbo engines is their bread and butter. They have started delivering ERS with ICE in road cars of the highest order...look at the P1. They are supposed to have a head start in this, not counting all the extra data they have from all the teams using their engines. Ferrari will need a bit more time to get the different power sources balanced out...you need crazy amounts of data for that and even more people processing it.

I do think LdM will let Stefano go this time. Stefano's statement to me even seems a bit desperate....LdM will certainly not like his team principal calling Ferrari small.

**aroutis** · 2nd March 2014, 19:07

Originally Posted by khizerk

By saying mercedes is a monster and we are smaller, I believe Stefano is referring to Ferrari as an engine supplier. Let's face it guys developing turbo engines is their bread and butter. They have started delivering ERS with ICE in road cars of the highest order...look at the P1. They are supposed to have a head start in this, not counting all the extra data they have from all the teams using their engines. Ferrari will need a bit more time to get the different power sources balanced out...you need crazy amounts of data for that and even more people processing it.

I do think LdM will let Stefano go this time. Stefano's statement to me even seems a bit desperate....LdM will certainly not like his team principal calling Ferrari small.

It does not matter what he meant by saying it. It 's all about words and references.

You do not call Ferrari small when you are the Principal of Ferrari and when you are saying anything about F1. It's that simple.

I really try to stay calm on this one but honestly this is a big mistake on his behalf.

And yes, LdM will not like it, for one it shows a certain way of thinking that is not suited for being the Principal of this team.

**Matt Pratola** · 2nd March 2014, 19:09

Originally Posted by khizerk

I do think LdM will let Stefano go this time. Stefano's statement to me even seems a bit desperate....LdM will certainly not like his team principal calling Ferrari small.

Too bad we didn't pick up Boullier when we had the chance.

**Senna4Ever** · 2nd March 2014, 19:14

Originally Posted by Ste

Hamilton set his best time on softs. He used super softs at the end but made mistakes on both laps. Source - AMUS

encouraging information!

Last week I was more confitend that we are up to the music - since the last 4 days this confidence tailed off
For my own the real positive thing I can take with me from this last week are the awesome pictures ... thanks again to @Rob and @tifosi1993

**ManFromMilan** · 2nd March 2014, 19:14

Originally Posted by aroutis

And yes, LdM will not like it, for one it shows a certain way of thinking that is not suited for being the Principal of this team.

Someones ear is going to be tweaked!

**Kyss4k** · 2nd March 2014, 19:16

Originally Posted by Senna4Ever

encouraging information!

Last week I was more confitend that we are up to the music - since the last 4 days this confidence tailed off
For my own the real positive thing I can take with me from this last week are the awesome pictures ... thanks again to @Rob and @tifosi1993

Encouraging how?

Last time I checked, Hamilton was not driving for us...

**RedPassion** · 2nd March 2014, 19:17

Originally Posted by Kyss4k

Encouraging how?

Last time I checked, Hamilton was not driving for us...

Being sarcastic?

**Kyss4k** · 2nd March 2014, 19:22

Originally Posted by RedPassion

Being sarcastic?

Doesn't seem to me. More like confusion of names

Or I should go to bad today... whathever

**Winter** · 2nd March 2014, 19:22

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

No Stefano, Maranello is much bigger than Brackley.

We are the only top team with our engines, with Mercedes there are McLaren, FI and Williams. In that aspect they are much bigger.

**Winter** · 2nd March 2014, 19:27

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

As i recall, our main problem for the bad developent was the wind tunnel and everybody says that the new one working fine so.....!!!

Making inseason development without working wind tunnel is like shooting to the dark.
In this season we should have all the tools we need for good progress during the season.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 2nd March 2014, 19:28

This is from Pirelli site:

1. L Hamilton Mercedes 1m33.278s Soft Used
2. V Bottas Williams 1m33.987s Soft New
3. F Alonso Ferrari 1m34.280s Supersoft New
4. N Hulkenberg Force India 1m35.577s Supersoft New
5. J-E Vergne Toro Rosso 1m35.701s Supersoft New
6. A Sutil Sauber 1m36.467s Supersoft New
7. M Chilton Marussia 1m36.835s Supersoft New
8. E Gutierrez Sauber 1m37.303s Supersoft New
9. S Vettel Red Bull 1m37.468s Soft Used
10. J Button McLaren 1m38.111s Medium New
11. K Kobayashi Caterham 1m38.391s Soft New
12. R Grosjean Lotus 1m39.302s Soft New

**Winter** · 2nd March 2014, 19:32

Originally Posted by ManFromMilan

I think we are hiding something and it might be speed

Lets hope we didn't forget where we hid it..

**Kyss4k** · 2nd March 2014, 19:36

Originally Posted by OSS EL BOSS

This is from Pirelli site:

1. L Hamilton Mercedes 1m33.278s Soft Used
2. V Bottas Williams 1m33.987s Soft New
3. F Alonso Ferrari 1m34.280s Supersoft New
4. N Hulkenberg Force India 1m35.577s Supersoft New
5. J-E Vergne Toro Rosso 1m35.701s Supersoft New
6. A Sutil Sauber 1m36.467s Supersoft New
7. M Chilton Marussia 1m36.835s Supersoft New
8. E Gutierrez Sauber 1m37.303s Supersoft New
9. S Vettel Red Bull 1m37.468s Soft Used
10. J Button McLaren 1m38.111s Medium New
11. K Kobayashi Caterham 1m38.391s Soft New
12. R Grosjean Lotus 1m39.302s Soft New

You've gotta be kidding me...

**F1NAC** · 2nd March 2014, 19:37

Originally Posted by OSS EL BOSS

This is from Pirelli site:

1. L Hamilton Mercedes 1m33.278s Soft Used
2. V Bottas Williams 1m33.987s Soft New
3. F Alonso Ferrari 1m34.280s Supersoft New
4. N Hulkenberg Force India 1m35.577s Supersoft New
5. J-E Vergne Toro Rosso 1m35.701s Supersoft New
6. A Sutil Sauber 1m36.467s Supersoft New
7. M Chilton Marussia 1m36.835s Supersoft New
8. E Gutierrez Sauber 1m37.303s Supersoft New
9. S Vettel Red Bull 1m37.468s Soft Used
10. J Button McLaren 1m38.111s Medium New
11. K Kobayashi Caterham 1m38.391s Soft New
12. R Grosjean Lotus 1m39.302s Soft New

SS sucks on this circuit, even Hamilton said that he made a lot of mistakes with SS

**Rosso Corsa** · 2nd March 2014, 19:40

Can't wait to go racing now

Thanks everyone who contributed to the testing threads!

**OSS EL BOSS** · 2nd March 2014, 19:40

Originally Posted by Kyss4k

You've gotta be kidding me...

I don't believe it too, AMuS said during their live timing that he was on super softs. I don't know, it could be a mistake from Pirelli.
But if it is true, it would mean the Mercedes W05 is a real beast.

**LF1Torsion** · 2nd March 2014, 19:45

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

Fast laps were done with the old FW?

**Laferrari** · 2nd March 2014, 19:45

Amus: Ferrari play poker face... ferrari fastest of all in top speed...2 sec behind ? not realistic.I believe pecking order is Mercedes- Ferrari-Williams/Redbull/mclaren/force india.Alonso is not frustated on all of his interview, if he say that we will be in the fight believe him :).

**Greig** · 2nd March 2014, 19:47

Maybe we should buy Merc engines.

**OSS EL BOSS** · 2nd March 2014, 19:49

From AMuS:

Ferrari holds back on purpose?

Is Ferrari as in recent years again before a comeback? The answers in the paddock vary widely. Some believe that the gap really is this second. The others can imagine that Ferrari has not revealed all the cards. The usually skeptical Alonso sprayed too much confidence. And at the round analysis revealed some inconsistencies.

Ferrari has never packed all peaks on one lap. If you swept with full top speed over the finish line, was driven deliberately slowly to the rest of the round. In a Sektorbestzeit you could bet that the other two sectors in comparison to fell off. In a discipline Ferrari is already tip. Alonso managed with 339.6 km / h the highest top speed.

**PURE PASSION** · 2nd March 2014, 19:53

Originally Posted by Greig

Maybe we should buy Merc engines.

can we afford it??

**giodap** · 2nd March 2014, 19:54

Originally Posted by OSS EL BOSS

From AMuS:

how can we be so far off the fastest lap pace with the fastest time in the speed trap? is the merc really that good in the corners?

**OSS EL BOSS** · 2nd March 2014, 19:59

Originally Posted by giodap

how can we be so far off the fastest lap pace with the fastest time in the speed trap? is the merc really that good in the corners?

Maybe the Mercedes engine has a better driveability.
There are some rumours that Ferrari are not able to use the full potential of the ERS yet.

**F1NAC** · 2nd March 2014, 20:02

maybe we were sandbagging, we try to do qualy run firstly to have god run in first two sectors and then back off to keep the prefomance for ourselves and than in next lap easy in first two sectors and then push in the last one.

**Jas** · 2nd March 2014, 20:05

Total laps in second Bahrain test - by power unit:
1. Mercedes, 1462 (4 teams)
2. Ferrari, 968 (3 teams)
3. Renault, 878 (4 teams)

Total 2014 test distance - by team (power unit, where different):
1. Mercedes, 4972.644 km
2. Williams (Mercedes), 4893.432 km
3. Ferrari, 4488.516 km
4. McLaren (Mercedes), 4153.464 km
5. Sauber (Ferrari), 4039.32 km
6. Force India (Mercedes), 3974.868 km
7. Caterham (Renault), 3313.128 km
8. Toro Rosso (Renault), 2436.384 km
9. Red Bull (Renault), 1705.764 km
10. Marussia (Ferrari), 1686.084 km
11. Lotus (Renault), 1288.056 km (Lotus missed opening Jerez test)