Bahrain testing 27 Feb-2 Mar

[ferrari4life]

I am really getting fed up with all the doom and gloom, why are you saying we now have a problem because the engine was not running on maximum, it has been said if you run the car on maximum capacity you will not finish the race because you would run out of fuel. Ferrari have said the optimum is 13,500 rpm but they have tested the engine in the factory at full power with out issue, last week we were testing the car and obviously there was need to run on full power. Stefano can not win with some of you at the moment.

1. From now on during every race weekend there is a limited number of engines that can be used.
2. At some point during the race weekend we need to push real hard where fuel is not a concern to get as far ahead as possible. AKA qualifying.
3. We see from Renault and Red Bull that testing that testing the engine and testing the car sepertely do no good if they cant work together

Put 1 - 2 - 3 together and then you wonder why we did not use the only oppurtunity we could to see how far we could push the engine before it broke so that come qualifying we do not risk loosing an engine or qualifying to slow.

Maybe you should start looking at the world more realistically rather than with your happy pills all the time. I am just stating my opinion and I have the right to do that on this forum. At what point was I saying anything negative about Stefano.

[Nero Horse]

2013

"Christian Horner admits 2013 Red Bull car is behind schedule"

2014

#f1 Helmut Marko: "We're behind schedule. First race in Melbourne at least 2 months too early for Red Bull."

The same old pre-season talk from them...like copy/paste LOL. I won't believe that they're in any serious trouble before I see it with my own eyes in the first race.

[mirafiori]

Dude if you are fed up of the doom and gloom turn your computer and tv off and go live in the mountains. If you cant live with people that have different opinions than you then that's your problem to deal with.

Well that reply is very intelligent, I am surprised you can get a signal in a cave.

[Forzi]

2013

2014

The same old pre-season talk from them...like copy/paste LOL. I won't believe that they're in any serious trouble before I see it with my own eyes in the first race.

Might hear the same talk, but can't recall them not being able to do 2 laps in a row with decent pace without breaking down

[Nero Horse]

Might hear the same talk, but can't recall them not being able to do 2 laps in a row with decent pace without breaking down

Yea that's true but I would still wait at least till the end of the first race before starting the "Red Bull is dead" celebrations.

[mirafiori]

1. From now on during every race weekend there is a limited number of engines that can be used.
2. At some point during the race weekend we need to push real hard where fuel is not a concern to get as far ahead as possible. AKA qualifying.
3. We see from Renault and Red Bull that testing that testing the engine and testing the car sepertely do no good if they cant work together

Put 1 - 2 - 3 together and then you wonder why we did not use the only oppurtunity we could to see how far we could push the engine before it broke so that come qualifying we do not risk loosing an engine or qualifying to slow.

Maybe you should start looking at the world more realistically rather than with your happy pills all the time. I am just stating my opinion and I have the right to do that on this forum. At what point was I saying anything negative about Stefano.

Thank you for educating me.

[SilverSpeed]

“I was driving with Ricciardo for quite a few laps and he couldn’t get past me on the straights. He overtook me around the outside of Turn 11 instead, which is a high-speed left-hander. I’ve never seen anything like that before,” declared the McLaren driver.


Jenson Button.



mmm once they sort out their stuff I'd recon they will indeed be very good again .

[gjoko-mkd]

Red Bull today at Bahrain( probably filming day):

[mirafiori]

“I was driving with Ricciardo for quite a few laps and he couldn’t get past me on the straights. He overtook me around the outside of Turn 11 instead, which is a high-speed left-hander. I’ve never seen anything like that before,” declared the McLaren driver.


Jenson Button.



mmm once they sort out their stuff I'd recon they will indeed be very good again .

This is why we have to take advantage while they seem to be struggling at the moment. Its very important for both our cars to score some good points at the first race. Jenson very complimentary first marussia and now Red Bull could it be a double bluff.

[Jas]

Just a thought guys...but will driver talent regarding pure speed play less of a role, for example if the target lap is way off the pure one lap pace that can be achieved then surley it will mean those less talented be able to do that ALSO we cant really be expecting our men to push push push to make up places due to fuel...just a thought!

[RedPassion]

Red Bull today at Bahrain( probably filming day):

Here we go,definitely something cheesy under braking
Thats probably why they are having way more problems than other Renault teams

[gvsnraju85]

Guys, i was just watching some analysis of the Bahrain testing. Thought it maybe of interest to everone here:


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Sorry if this is already posted elsewhere in the thread

[Kiwi Nick]

Red Bull today at Bahrain( probably filming day):

With the advent of brake-by-wire, it really does wonder just how much of the nervous braking is a software problem.

[Hornet]

Dave Salters "Fuel consumption is the key to win races. In Melbourne a third row is as good as a pole position"

Strange statement, IMO. 3rd row can only be as good as pole if our engine has better efficiency than those who qualified ahead of us. Surely we don't know enough about our competitors to say that yet

[fronaldo]

According to Autosprint the problem lies in the Ferrari second MGH-U fails to load all the energy that the batteries must then convert

Will they fix that problem before Melbourne? Just hope so..

[Hornet]

Will they fix that problem before Melbourne? Just hope so..

I think there's enough time to come up with an improved one, but we won't be able to test it unless Ferrari do a filming day testing. From Sky's Ted's notebook, he mentioned that both MGU is subjected to the same max 5 limit as the engine, so we better hope it works or its going to be a bad day for us.

[Senna4Ever]

#f1 Helmut Marko: "We're behind schedule. First race in Melbourne at least 2 months too early for Red Bull." #servustv

Immediately in the moment when Marko takes a breath for saying something he starts lying and fooling ...

And when they are not down. Just for the pleasure of doing so.

and the harder we kick them now the harder the comeback will be ... Better to wound them that huge that they have to suffer all season long. even they make the turn around ...

and if it's true what Button says

“I was driving with Ricciardo for quite a few laps and he couldn’t get past me on the straights. He overtook me around the outside of Turn 11 instead, which is a high-speed left-hander. I’ve never seen anything like that before,” declared the McLaren driver.

Aero still will be the master key once the engines have been civilized ... My evaluation: engines, power unit and energy consumption will be the main thing in the first half of the season and after summer break aero will decide the champion ship ... and hopefully we will be there too to strike

... will be interesting who will be faster: RedBull in solving their heating issue or others in closing up regarding aero ...

[f1tomi8]

Ferrari faster on the straights to save fuel? Transleted please!

[fronaldo]

I think there's enough time to come up with an improved one, but we won't be able to test it unless Ferrari do a filming day testing. From Sky's Ted's notebook, he mentioned that both MGU is subjected to the same max 5 limit as the engine, so we better hope it works or its going to be a bad day for us.

Yeah..they better be..!..Heard rumor also Renault-powered cars might be starting in the pit lane..crazy..!!

[stefa]

For sure we are going to have one hell of a spectacle in Melbourne (good or bad)!

[Stormsearcher]

Yeah..they better be..!..Heard rumor also Renault-powered cars might be starting in the pit lane..crazy..!!

Dont care!

Am in no hurry to feel sorry for them.

[ManFromMilan]

Dont care!

Am in no hurry to feel sorry for them.

My sentiments exactly!

[hrc5555]

#f1 Helmut Marko: "We're behind schedule. First race in Melbourne at least 2 months too early for Red Bull." #servustv

I suppose that is because of their too long focus on 2013 car, they admitted last year that they should stop develop 2013 car earlier.

[Paulpg87]

Do not write a lot...here just a summary of what i've read on italian newspapers and heard on tv about Ferrari. That's a pity cause are just bad news.

- we have problems with rear tyre degradation
- engine too aggressive and too much torque
- we have problems running batteries at full power and we run during tests without full power (not cause we wanted to but cause we weren't able to do so)
- we lack in traction in slow corners and downforce in high speed corners
- we must run low downforce due to fuel consumption.
- Our engine has higher consumption and we are forced to run low downforce to reduce drag. In fact we recorded top speed but we are slow in cornering.
- Overall rumors agree we are far behind mercedes (more than 1s)
- Domenical in tv said we are behind mercedes and williams.. and not by a small margin. Focus is already on catching the competition.

just reporting guys, not my opinion

[Paulpg87]

Ferrari faster on the straights to save fuel? Transleted please!

yes "our higher speed is the signal that we are forced to run lower downforce to reduce drag and save fuel. this means that competitors (ie mercedes) have probably better fuel consumption and could run higher downforce and be faster in cornering"

[Ferrari Man]

Do not write a lot...here just a summary of what i've read on italian newspapers and heard on tv about Ferrari. That's a pity cause are just bad news.

- we have problems with rear tyre degradation
- engine too aggressive and too much torque
- we have problems running batteries at full power and we run during tests without full power (not cause we wanted to but cause we weren't able to do so)
- we lack in traction in slow corners and downforce in high speed corners
- we must run low downforce due to fuel consumption.
- Our engine has higher consumption and we are forced to run low downforce to reduce drag. In fact we recorded top speed but we are slow in cornering.
- Overall rumors agree we have far behind mercedes (more than 1s)
- Domenical in tv said we are behind mercedes and williams.. and not by a small margin. Focus is already on catching the competition.

just reporting guys, not my opinion

If you were to believe that report the car is basically a right off at this stage. I'd doubt things are as bad as that. If there are probs I am sure they are being worked on . This wait is killing me..

[Paulpg87]

If you were to believe that report the car is basically a right off at this stage. I'd doubt things are as bad as that. If there are probs I am sure they are being worked on . This wait is killing me..

i don't know, just reportin news as i said, can't really judge. However the overall feeling by media here is that the car is bad and we want just to score some points in australia. Nobody thinks we'll be able to fight even for the top4/5. Domenicali in tv said yesterday that we do not have to judge performance from what we will do in australia.. we doesn't sound good to me. But will see.

[Senna4Ever]

#f1 Helmut Marko: "We're behind schedule. First race in Melbourne at least 2 months too early for Red Bull." #servustv

marko also told that engineers from Lotus and RedBull/ToroRosso are working with Renault guys to re-work software. According to Marko they have a turbo lag ...

[hrc5555]

Do not write a lot...here just a summary of what i've read on italian newspapers and heard on tv about Ferrari. That's a pity cause are just bad news.

- we have problems with rear tyre degradation
- engine too aggressive and too much torque
- we have problems running batteries at full power and we run during tests without full power (not cause we wanted to but cause we weren't able to do so)
- we lack in traction in slow corners and downforce in high speed corners
- we must run low downforce due to fuel consumption.
- Our engine has higher consumption and we are forced to run low downforce to reduce drag. In fact we recorded top speed but we are slow in cornering.
- Overall rumors agree we are far behind mercedes (more than 1s)
- Domenical in tv said we are behind mercedes and williams.. and not by a small margin. Focus is already on catching the competition.

just reporting guys, not my opinion

If this is true than we have the most powerful engine and bad fuel consumption.

[Rosso Corsa]

Put 1 - 2 - 3 together and then you wonder why we did not use the only oppurtunity we could to see how far we could push the engine before it broke so that come qualifying we do not risk loosing an engine or qualifying to slow.

So, are you saying that if Ferrari had blown an engine that you'd be happy then? Because that's what you're implying and it makes no sense at all. Surely then you'd be crying "what's the point of being fast if the engine explodes". Unless we topped every test, without a single hitch, I don't think you'd be satisfied. Do you? What would have satisfied you and given you confidence for the season ahead?