Malaysian GP 2014 Race Thread

[Greig]

Jumping the gun a little bit? Kimi had bad setup in Australia and had a puncture caused by Magnussen today. Too early to judge him.

Yet when Felipe had any incident we were told it's cause he is bad at qual and starts in middle which causes more risk....bad setup is Kimi's job.

[FerrariF60]

& yet you seem to be trying really hard to convince/remind yourself that he indeed is better than Kimi.

We get it bro. You dig Fernando. lol. Its going his way in the driver face off so far so quit worrying already !

GREIG is NOT the only one here that thinks Alonso is better then ANY team mate he has had in his whole career...i'm on his side and also think the same

Fernando IS BY FAR the MOST complete driver on the grid...he's put the Ferrari's he's driven over these past 4 years (not including the F14T as it's still new) in places NO ONE could ever think of....

one has to look at what he did with the troublesome F2012 at the beginning of teh year for nearly half the season until they figured out the exhaust thingy....

the only one that started off better was the F138 last year, but due to wind tunnel misshaps and issues our development path was in LA LA land and nothing seemed to work hence losing ground on aero side of things...

this year, i think we have a SOLID chassis, a good working wind tunnel (or so we've been told by ferrari so far, we're gonna have to wait and see what the updates are gonna do when we slap them on teh car), all we need to figure out is the Power Unit's potential and hopefully is just a software issue we have to fix to be able to get more power out of it and match the likes or Mercedes power unit...because if it's the engine itself, WELL THEN I GUESS WE'RE KIND OF DONE FOR, as engine development it's FROZEN....but let's hope for the FORMER...


Forza....

[Greig]

Can you learn to spell my name correctly, or just not mention me thanks

[PlatzdaTurbo]

Graig is NOT the only one here that thinks Alonso is better then ANY team mate he has had in his whole career...i'm on his side and also think the same

Fernando IS BY FAR the MOST complete driver on the grid...he's put the Ferrari's he's driven over these past 4 years (not including the F14T as it's still new) in places NO ONE could ever think of....

one has to look at what he did with the troublesome F2012 at the beginning of teh year for nearly half the season until they figured out the exhaust thingy....

the only one that started off better was the F138 last year, but due to wind tunnel misshaps and issues our development path was in LA LA land and nothing seemed to work hence losing ground on aero side of things...

this year, i think we have a SOLID chassis, a good working wind tunnel (or so we've been told by ferrari so far, we're gonna have to wait and see what the updates are gonna do when we slap them on teh car), all we need to figure out is the Power Unit's potential and hopefully is just a software issue we have to fix to be able to get more power out of it and match the likes or Mercedes power unit...because if it's the engine itself, WELL THEN I GUESS WE'RE KIND OF DONE FOR, as engine development it's FROZEN....but let's hope for the FORMER...


Forza....

Really dont care whose side you are on & all man. Am out of here

[FerrariF60]

Can you learn to spell my name correctly, or just not mention me thanks

fixed, just for you....it happens Greig, when one's typing at a faster pace....LOLOLOLOL

[FerrariF60]

Really dont care whose side you are on & all man. Am out of here

see ya bud, have a good rest of the weekend, whatever is left of it.....kimiBOT

[SilverSpeed]

Sack 'm all and let's focus on 2015!

And let's all stay calm haha .

[Kyss4k]

Yet when Felipe had any incident we were told it's cause he is bad at qual and starts in middle which causes more risk....bad setup is Kimi's job.

The difference being Kimi was new in Ferrari with less testing then Alonso, due to the reliability. I would give him time. Felipe was given a lot before people started to not be happy.

[Greig]

The difference being Kimi was new in Ferrari with less testing then Alonso, due to the reliability. I would give him time. Felipe was given a lot before people started to not be happy.

Surely you just apply the same standards? Felipe was hounded in 2006, 2007 etc etc

[LivingHitokiri]

The difference being Kimi was new in Ferrari with less testing then Alonso, due to the reliability. I would give him time. Felipe was given a lot before people started to not be happy.

But mate, kimi finished 12th, all that puncture and damaged floor and losing 1 and half minute due to it is just excuse ,right ?
Should i mention that he got lapped by mercedes ? i think we should sack Kimi and get Chilton instead, im sure he will do better than Raikkonen.

[Greig]

But mate, kimi finished 12th, all that puncture and damaged floor and losing 1 and half minute due to it is just excuse ,right ?
Should i mention that he got lapped by mercedes ? i think we should sack Kimi and get Chilton instead, im sure he will do better than Raikkonen.

Maybe you were not here last year, when Massa had any puncture or problem that caused him to finish behind he was useless, we must apply those standards to his replacement.

[PadGeT]

Surely you just apply the same standards? Felipe was hounded in 2006, 2007 etc etc

U forget that was Bridgestone era, Ferrari were competitive. Now dat Pirelli are here to stay in F1 for the forseeble future, Kimi is definite step up from Massa.

[LivingHitokiri]

Yet when Felipe had any incident we were told it's cause he is bad at qual and starts in middle which causes more risk....bad setup is Kimi's job.

So , when a driver delivers it becomes a team effort but when a driver got problems its his own fault, interesting. I guess all the mechanics providing data and instructing them during practices and races clearly got nothing on the setup involvement.

Surely you just apply the same standards? Felipe was hounded in 2006, 2007 etc etc

Yes, lets compare couple of years Felipe had with just 2 races on new regulations and while both these races had collision and technical problems.

[LivingHitokiri]

Maybe you were not here last year, when Massa had any puncture or problem that caused him to finish behind he was useless, we must apply those standards to his replacement.

Honestly, people didnt complain about Felipe just when he had problems with the car, it was his overall poor performance in the recent years that made people question him.
If you watched the race Kimi made a recovery taking into consideration how damaged his car was and how much time he lost. Compare kimi lap times and you will see the results.

[Kyss4k]

Surely you just apply the same standards? Felipe was hounded in 2006, 2007 etc etc

I won't be getting into the fight with you again Greig. I am over it and it's not worth my time. It's ok that we have different oppinions.

All I'm saying, Felipe was in Ferrari for a long time, he had great times, but he had bad ones. And he had those for quite a many seasons in a row. RAI had 2 bad races so far (sure, out of two), but it is early days. If his situation won't get better, don't worry, I'll get mad.

[Greig]

Honestly, people didnt complain about Felipe just when he had problems with the car

yes they really did, if what happened to Kimi today happened to Massa then he would be to blame for not qualifying higher, believe me.

[Greig]

I won't be getting into the fight with you again Greig. I am over it and it's not worth my time. It's ok that we have different oppinions.

All I'm saying, Felipe was in Ferrari for a long time, he had great times, but he had bad ones. And he had those for quite a many seasons in a row. RAI had 2 bad races so far (sure, out of two), but it is early days. If his situation won't get better, don't worry, I'll get mad.

2 bad races if you forget his previous contract with us

[LivingHitokiri]

yes they really did, if what happened to Kimi today happened to Massa then he would be to blame for not qualifying higher, believe me.

Then sorry but these people got no clue about racing, plus they are not Ferrari fans but just people that dislike Felipe , i cannot get any other explanation for it. My words may sound harsh but i find it hard to blame a driver especially when its not his fault.
It is like we blame Fernando for his DRS problem in last year Bahrain GP ....

[evo_spook]

I think they're both crap and should have gone for a fast junior to support Alonso :-p


Having a No1 and a good reliable side kick has always being the tried and trusted way, not sure why they altered it this time.

[Kyss4k]

2 bad races if you forget his previous contract with us

I was 100% sure you would come out with that. It was 5 years ago. There is nothing that could be carried from that time. F1 has changed, Ferrari has changed, Kimi has changed. It was almost a fresh start and I am willing to wait. As I was willing to wait with Felipe for 2 seasons actually. It was only in the mid 2012 when I began to doubt his abilities.

[Kyss4k]

I think they're both crap and should have gone for a fast junior to support Alonso :-p


Having a No1 and a good reliable side kick has always being the tried and trusted way, not sure why they altered it this time.

I still think we will regret for not getting Hulkenberg.

[Jas]

are people seriously considering the talents of raikonen....has hell frozen over

[radosav]

Alonso said that he will end his career at Ferrari, but i didn't expect his career will finish right after 2010. :D

[evo_spook]

are people seriously considering the talents of raikonen....has hell frozen over

I think with Kimi you're either a fan or not, a lot of times down to his attitude.

I think he can be fast on his day and have the perfect drive but these days they seem to be further apart.


I've never being a fan of his couldn't give **** attitude and not want to do sponsor work, in my min when your a F1 driver, paid millions in a Fan sport, it is part of the job and shouldn't be allowed to pick and chose what you want to do.

[PadGeT]

I think with Kimi you're either a fan or not, a lot of times down to his attitude.

I think he can be fast on his day and have the perfect drive but these days they seem to be further apart.


I've never being a fan of his couldn't give **** attitude and not want to do sponsor work, in my min when your a F1 driver, paid millions in a Fan sport, it is part of the job and shouldn't be allowed to pick and chose what you want to do.

I think Ferrari needs Kimi more than Kimi needs ferrari atm. His carefree and honest feedback is whats needed to stop politics at the top brass in this Machiavelli f1 team.

[Ed Harley]

Plus he does not seem to be any better than Massa at challenging Alonso.

It is rather difficult to do when your machinery is not working as it should as in Australia or when you lose a lap because of a puncture and a damaged car as in Sepang. But there are always some WCC points to try to get.

[F2008]

I don't blame Kimi, he is in the same boat as Massa was: superior teammate, average car and some bad luck.

[Hermann]

I think Ferrari needs Kimi more than Kimi needs ferrari atm. His carefree and honest feedback is whats needed to stop politics at the top brass in this Machiavelli f1 team.

Excuse me?

[LivingHitokiri]

I think with Kimi you're either a fan or not, a lot of times down to his attitude.

I think he can be fast on his day and have the perfect drive but these days they seem to be further apart.


I've never being a fan of his couldn't give **** attitude and not want to do sponsor work, in my min when your a F1 driver, paid millions in a Fan sport, it is part of the job and shouldn't be allowed to pick and chose what you want to do.

How many times people should explain that , talking little =/= giving a **** ? Just because he doesn't like to talk much or do PR in general it doesn't mean he doesn't cares , if he didn't care he wouldn't race,simple as that .
Yet you see him working with mechanics, trying to solve problems with the car and trying the best to race so how exactly he " doesnt care" as you claim ?

[Ed Harley]

How many times people should explain that , talking little =/= giving a **** ? Just because he doesn't like to talk much or do PR in general it doesn't mean he doesn't cares , if he didn't care he wouldn't race,simple as that .
Yet you see him working with mechanics, trying to solve problems with the car and trying the best to race so how exactly he " doesnt care" as you claim ?

Perhaps he should just wave his hands more and speak more nonsense to produce a more European flavor to his personality.