Montmelo Test 13-15th May

**Nero Horse** · 13th May 2014, 20:38

Originally Posted by AfterLife

Yeah. They were faster than us from the beginning of this season, but i don't know why they lose the path in every race!?

Wait a second, who exactly are you talking about here? Who was faster than us from the beginning of the season? Marussia??? What...where...when? Is this supposed to be a joke?! I sincerely hope so...

**LivingHitokiri** · 13th May 2014, 21:03

I think AfterLife is talking about Mclaren and the season opener.

**Nero Horse** · 13th May 2014, 21:07

Originally Posted by LivingHitokiri

I think AfterLife is talking about Mclaren and the season opener.

Well he replied to a comment made by Nova where Nova was talking about Marussia, so... which is it then?

**LivingHitokiri** · 13th May 2014, 21:31

Originally Posted by Nero Horse

Well he replied to a comment made by Nova where Nova was talking about Marussia, so... which is it then?

Ohh you're right then, i think in this occasion he was just being sarcastic about Marussia being faster :P

**Nero Horse** · 13th May 2014, 21:37

Originally Posted by LivingHitokiri

Ohh you're right then, i think in this occasion he was just being sarcastic about Marussia being faster :P

Let's wait till he finally gets around to speak for himself.

**voiko** · 14th May 2014, 03:51

All you need to do is look at the FW on the merc and realise how much they are thinking outside the box. It's a beast. Ours is crap.

**20000rpm** · 14th May 2014, 04:09

Originally Posted by voiko

All you need to do is look at the FW on the merc and realise how much they are thinking outside the box. It's a beast. Ours is crap.

This happens when your aero section is headed by a person/persons who is not in tune with the demands of the current F-1.

**AfterLife** · 14th May 2014, 05:21

Originally Posted by Nero Horse

Wait a second, who exactly are you talking about here? Who was faster than us from the beginning of the season? Marussia??? What...where...when? Is this supposed to be a joke?! I sincerely hope so...

It was a joke Obviously.

**AfterLife** · 14th May 2014, 05:22

Originally Posted by LivingHitokiri

I think AfterLife is talking about Mclaren and the season opener.

No, I was talking about Marussia and it was a joke. They were nowhere compare to us from the beginning.

**nash929** · 14th May 2014, 05:40

With the problems on the engine yesterday, wouldn't that tell us that they are doing something with it? Tweaking to get the utmost performance, thus breaking it in some way?

**AfterLife** · 14th May 2014, 08:44

OMG, Surely This is the wrong path F! are going.

I prefer muted cars than this pure art

**Ed Harley** · 14th May 2014, 08:54

What's next - FIA supplied spec noise amplifiers, perhaps.

Then again I have Supertrapp Supermeg on my Harley...

**nash929** · 14th May 2014, 09:00

Looks like a funnel to me. The one they used to refuel the cars in the old days!

...and by the way, am I the only one who's getting used to the new sound already? :D

**tifosi1993** · 14th May 2014, 09:01

Originally Posted by AfterLife

OMG, Surely This is the wrong path F! are going.

I prefer muted cars than this pure art

**fratelliferrari** · 14th May 2014, 09:23

Lol what a joke that trumpet on the Merc

**karvyin12** · 14th May 2014, 09:24

**nikola0406** · 14th May 2014, 09:26

Yeah it does look funny, but ask youself, it it was there to make car faster rather then louder, it woukd not make us LOL. So it is funny becouse we know why it is there. I would like to hear it first. Our nose is much funnier then this trumpet and it doesnt work.

**karvyin12** · 14th May 2014, 09:26

What if it rains? We all can have a hot shower....

**SinanOzerS** · 14th May 2014, 09:34

Vuvuzela !

**Senna4Ever** · 14th May 2014, 10:09

... and after crossing the finish line it blows out confetti at the top 3 drivers of the race ...
and Ronald McDonald makes driver interview on the podium ...

ei ei ei

cheers

**tifosi1993** · 14th May 2014, 10:10

**Hornet** · 14th May 2014, 10:14

Originally Posted by nikola0406

Yeah it does look funny, but ask youself, it it was there to make car faster rather then louder, it woukd not make us LOL. So it is funny becouse we know why it is there. I would like to hear it first. Our nose is much funnier then this trumpet and it doesnt work.

It's funny because it's a dumb solution to the engine sound problem. Sticking a trumpet on the exhaust is not going to make the engine sound any nicer, because it's only giving us more exhaust sound, trumpeted exhaust sound this time. It's not the engine sound that the fans wanted. It will only further drown out the engine sound.

**nikola0406** · 14th May 2014, 10:59

So what would you sugest? Scrap those engines and go back to V12? I would love to see that too, but it want happen. I dont like this either, I would rather see them tuning those engines up to 15.000rpm, by allowing unlimited fuel flow. Maybe then it would sound better. Louder.

**Hornet** · 14th May 2014, 11:05

Originally Posted by nikola0406

So what would you sugest? Scrap those engines and go back to V12? I would love to see that too, but it want happen. I dont like this either, I would rather see them tuning those engines up to 15.000rpm, by allowing unlimited fuel flow. Maybe then it would sound better. Louder.

Yeah, as you said, to really increase the engine sound, you have to run the engine at a higher RPM. Even a bump to 150kg fuel would probably encourage that.

Problem is that will go against their green agenda. So the FIA either have to accept that the new engine will never be spectacular and stop trying things which makes it worse (they will have to sell the sport to the fans in other ways, not the engine sound), or they have to be willing enough to make huge technical changes that will encourage the engine to run at higher rpm.

Having a trumpet seems like a halfhearted attempt at fixing the problem without willingness to budge from their aim of making greener F1 cars

**Ed Harley** · 14th May 2014, 11:11

http://www.mobypicture.com/user/pius.../view/16896640

**piglett** · 14th May 2014, 11:12

Originally Posted by nikola0406

I would rather see them tuning those engines up to 15.000rpm, by allowing unlimited fuel flow. Maybe then it would sound better. Louder.

Highly doubt it. I've seen the Merc's engine rev to 13k.
I'll try to explain: Due to the small capacity of the engine they are running high compression( about 12 or 13:1, average road car engine is 9.5:1) and hi boost witch equates to >20:1 (if not >30:1) dynamic compression ratio. At 20 or more to 1 they really sound like diesels. Listen carefully on the onboard vids.
Now, take your average highly tuned Skyline R35, 3.5L V6 witch is running low compression( 7 or 8:1), and mild boost( 2-3 bar), and you get 1000hp+ and a sweet sounding engine at about 9k rpms.

**SinanOzerS** · 14th May 2014, 11:12

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

http://www.mobypicture.com/user/pius.../view/16896640

Absolutely no difference.

**stefa** · 14th May 2014, 11:14

This is RIDICULOUS!!!!

**radosav** · 14th May 2014, 11:44

Originally Posted by nikola0406

So what would you sugest? Scrap those engines and go back to V12? I would love to see that too, but it want happen. I dont like this either, I would rather see them tuning those engines up to 15.000rpm, by allowing unlimited fuel flow. Maybe then it would sound better. Louder.

Indy car engines sound good, and they are similar to these F1 engines!

**Ed Harley** · 14th May 2014, 11:49

Note engine program cost differences.

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