Montmelo Test 13-15th May

[Winter]

yes but the focus I believe needs to be on the future, may be 2015, may be 2016. This season is over and we need to leverage the remaining GPs as test ground for the new car.

Of course Ferrari cannot afford to simply let go entirely the current season, that is clear, but the effort for actual results now must be the absolute minimum to save face. The majority of resources must be dedicated to next year. I read that Allison is now entirely focused on new car or something along these lines anyway and that made me feel much better. I have no idea whether this is the guy who can do it, but I know that is what Ferrari needs to do.

It's way different to put focus to next year now, that it was last year. There wont be so much changes to the rules and any improvement to F14T is usable with next years car too. Engine department has been working with 2015 version for a while now I think, because there's so little what is allowed to do with current one due the engine freeze.

I think it's best to keep on working with F14T until the season ends, because next season starts pretty much where this one ends.

[PadGeT]

Chequered flag is out, here are the times at the end of day two

[Nero Horse]

With the problems on the engine yesterday, wouldn't that tell us that they are doing something with it? Tweaking to get the utmost performance, thus breaking it in some way?

Any word on what failed in the PU yesterday? Did they have to replace the ICE?

La Gazzetta is saying that Ferrari were testing extreme engine solutions yesterday to improve for Canada, which caused the PU failure. And yes, they did change the ICE on Kimi's car.

[Winter]

Was that blown engine new, or was it the same he raced with?

[LivingHitokiri]

La Gazzetta is saying that Ferrari were testing extreme engine solutions yesterday to improve for Canada, which caused the PU failure. And yes, they did change the ICE on Kimi's car.

Why for some reason i found ICE changing amusing

[sachin]

The times without context don't mean a lot, even compared to Q on Saturday. There must be more rubber on the track (FP1,2,3+Q1,2,3+R+Test1,2), we don't know track temperatures compared to Q, which tyre they have used, fuel loads, etc. I don't think we can read a lot in the lap times without the proper context. Yes, probably they have moved forward but by how much exactly? Only Lotus can answer that at the moment.

If that time is not on supersofts then lotus for sure are improving and fast.As far as i remember we didnt reach 1 minute 25s in q3.Ferrari need to respond NOW,gosh why have Ferrari have forgot meaning of upgrades?

[LivingHitokiri]

Lotus time was on SS, no doubt about that.

[vcs316]

2014 Barcelona: Ferrari Formula One F1 Wednesday Test Recap


Driver: Driver: Kimi Raikkonen Car: Ferrari F14 T Weather: Weather: air temperature 13/27°C, track temperature 20/34 °C. Sunny Laps/Km completed: Laps/Km completed: 94/438 Best lap: Best lap: 1:26.480

Scuderia Ferrari ended up third fastest on the second and final day of the second of the three in-season tests planned for this year.

Constant speed runs for aero measurement work and set-up testing with the F14 T were on the agenda today. Kimi Raikkonen made up for some of the time lost yesterday to various difficulties, bringing a busy programme to a close at the Catalan track.

Most of the running was done on the Medium tyres, ending on the softer one. There were no problems today and the weather was much more spring-like than yesterday.

Scuderia Ferrari will be back in action at the Monaco Grand Prix, the sixth round of the world championship, over the weekend of 25th May, on the Monte Carlo street circuit.

[PadGeT]

What kind of delta can we expect from the SS compared to S ?

[Nova]

Let's wait till he finally gets around to speak for himself.

Hello boys n girls....Marussia is Ferrari powered, and yes they were faster than us...faster than everybody..yesterday..at the test.
That was on the timesheet, right?

There ya go..I speaked for myself..They'll probably get some much needed sponsorship now.

[Alonso14]

What kind of delta can we expect from the SS compared to S ?

In Spain or Monaco?

[nikola0406]

Maybe they should give us this with a ticket

[windwaves]

It's way different to put focus to next year now, that it was last year. There wont be so much changes to the rules and any improvement to F14T is usable with next years car too. Engine department has been working with 2015 version for a while now I think, because there's so little what is allowed to do with current one due the engine freeze.

I think it's best to keep on working with F14T until the season ends, because next season starts pretty much where this one ends.

how about screw the engine freeze, get DQ if so it must be, or grid penalties, yet get to test some new engine and chassis. Lets show some balls to these FIA cretins. The F14T seems to be a total fail, like every bits and piece on the car is poorly conceived.

I mean, I don't have the solution, but something fairly drastic I suspect is what is needed otherwise it will be another 2 decades before we win again ! And one was enough !!!

[PadGeT]

Maybe they should give us this with a ticket

And how is that going to help with your annoying friend sitting beside ?

[Nero Horse]

And how is that going to help with your annoying friend sitting beside ?

Don't feed the trolls.

[Kiwi Nick]

how about screw the engine freeze, get DQ if so it must be, or grid penalties, yet get to test some new engine and chassis. Lets show some balls to these FIA cretins. The F14T seems to be a total fail, like every bits and piece on the car is poorly conceived.

I mean, I don't have the solution, but something fairly drastic I suspect is what is needed otherwise it will be another 2 decades before we win again ! And one was enough !!!

I don't often agree with people from NYC, but when I do...It is because they are spot on. It would be a great idea to run the remainder of the season as a multi-race testing and development t program for 2015. Brilliant!

[Grinsomx]

it's actually sad to see Ferrari in this state.
they got what they asked for and did nothing special.
in season development is abysmal, mostly at the start of each season for the last few years.
we really need something good or i fear we are back to the 80's and our drivers do not deserve that

[F1NAC]

I don't often agree with people from NYC, but when I do...It is because they are spot on. It would be a great idea to run the remainder of the season as a multi-race testing and development t program for 2015. Brilliant!

sooooooo you must be really desperated to want Ferrari to cheat and win by cheating. GJ

[DIEK]

OMG, Surely This is the wrong path F! are going. I prefer muted cars than this pure art

[abbottcostello]

how about screw the engine freeze, get DQ if so it must be, or grid penalties, yet get to test some new engine and chassis. Lets show some balls to these FIA cretins. The F14T seems to be a total fail, like every bits and piece on the car is poorly conceived.

I mean, I don't have the solution, but something fairly drastic I suspect is what is needed otherwise it will be another 2 decades before we win again ! And one was enough !!!

They would not even let the car on track with a new chassis unless it was completely certified. Has to pass all crash testing & I'm not sure what else?

[windwaves]

I don't often agree with people from NYC, but when I do...It is because they are spot on. It would be a great idea to run the remainder of the season as a multi-race testing and development t program for 2015. Brilliant!

cool ! and I am italian anyway :)
And I felt just like you when someone else first suggested this somewhere.

Lets just hope, hope … I have confidence in change and change has finally taken place. But it will take time.

[windwaves]

They would not even let the car on track with a new chassis unless it was completely certified. Has to pass all crash testing & I'm not sure what else?

of course they would have to pass those tests, so what ? that is a requirement anyway.

[windwaves]

love the last one.

The FIA fiasco with these new engine and now trying to address it with more bs. Well done !

[windwaves]

sooooooo you must be really desperated to want Ferrari to cheat and win by cheating. GJ

no man, always within regulation. Nobody is talking about cheating that is Red Bull specialty.

[abbottcostello]

I miss the 2013 sound so much. And the cost... wow.

Truthfully, I'm getting used to the new sound, probably wouldn't think about it much if it weren't for the constant harping by all the broadcasters.
With twin turbos on the Indycars, I imagine they have separate exhaust pipes & are not regulated to prevent "exh. blowing" like F1, so have retained smaller diameter from turbo to outlet end. Also don't know about fuel use & fuel flow limits?
Those 4 things probably enhance their sound at least a bit. Too be honest didn't seem so great to my ear & were comparing a lot to the pre-season testing sounds, like the spitting & sputtering Torro Rosso.

[Nova]

The bugle on the merc looks ridiculous. Its almost like how Audi n bmw pipe in the sound of an engine thru their stereo speakers.
What I cant figure out is why???\\\\\

[abbottcostello]

The bugle on the merc looks ridiculous. Its almost like how Audi n bmw pipe in the sound of an engine thru their stereo speakers.
What I cant figure out is why???\\\\\

Now Renault is also concerned about the Mercs gaining performance from the trumpet!! Please, just make it go away & leave it as is.

(Rob) "White told the Daily Mail he is not closing his ears to the calls for more noise, but there are paddock rumblings that Mercedes' rivals are sceptical the 'megaphone' exhaust might add performance to the German team's already-dominant car." Link

[Muhammad Ansib]

Anyone on what these things are?

[wacc]

It is a sensor, it has been there in testing for many years. It is also visible on the car launch photos at the beginning of the seasons.
The inlet is for cooling.(edit: have to correct myself, it is probably not an inlet at all)

[Alessandra]

I think we should combine our ideas ... this grows ... maybe someone can add ...
And remember when you see it, where you heard it first!!!!

Yessss! Tomorrow the world!!!!

And whilst on that subject, can anyone tell me whether the v. useful little tip-offs I used to get emailed when there had been further contributions to a thread I’d previously visited has been stopped or have I somehow managed to curtail it with my usual technological genius?
I’ve tried asking from my profile page but answer comes there none.