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    Artificial sound boosting is not acceptable. The sound is unreal and we can't deceive ourselves.
    There is one simple solution, get used to it.
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    despite all this sound farce ... any news about times and progress of the test?
    "If I was driving for Red Bull [from 2008] probably I would have more championships, but because they were dominating between 2010 and 2014 probably I would never have driven for Ferrari. I am very happy and very proud to drive for Ferrari, all my time there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna4Ever View Post
    ... and after crossing the finish line it blows out confetti at the top 3 drivers of the race ...
    and Ronald McDonald makes driver interview on the podium ...

    ei ei ei

    cheers
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    Really stupid idea - and a bit insulting really - unless we could have 'The Ride of the Valkyre'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Mercedes: moving the ballast on the W05 Hybrid

    The technicians at Brackley they added the pats of tungsten front wing of Hamilton
    May 13, 2014 17:12 Mercedes: moving the ballast on the W05 Hybrid

    The Mercedes continues to experiment: test in Barcelona has seen a front wing is identical in form to that which was used in the Spanish GP Lewis Hamilton won Sunday. The difference was only in the arrangement of the ballast : look at the neutral central profile which now has the "flaps" the largest and most advanced of which are hidden under the cakes of tungsten . On W05 , then, the engineers at Brackley would have arrived at the limit of the distribution front of the weights (the FIA rules, in fact, requires a minimum of 314 kg on the front and 369 on the back, having 9 kg to move ... to find the best balance.) The image shows that the weight has been moved on the front , perhaps to avoid oversteer which just Lewis had complained in the last laps of the race on Sunday (which was solved with a stiffer rear differential). The modification imposes a greater load of the front wing (to avoid generating understeer, but allows to download slightly back, favoring a greater maximum speed.

    http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/378...lla-w05-hybrid
    just WOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senna4Ever View Post
    despite all this sound farce ... any news about times and progress of the test?

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel08 View Post
    just WOW!
    I think it's something they can do because Lewis is slightly smaller in size than most driver, so they have the luxury of adding extra ballast wherever they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
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    thank you ...
    "If I was driving for Red Bull [from 2008] probably I would have more championships, but because they were dominating between 2010 and 2014 probably I would never have driven for Ferrari. I am very happy and very proud to drive for Ferrari, all my time there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandra View Post
    unless we could have 'The Ride of the Valkyre'
    I think we should combine our ideas ... this grows ... maybe someone can add ...
    And remember when you see it, where you heard it first!!!!
    "If I was driving for Red Bull [from 2008] probably I would have more championships, but because they were dominating between 2010 and 2014 probably I would never have driven for Ferrari. I am very happy and very proud to drive for Ferrari, all my time there.

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    Mercedes have so much pace in the bag that they are now worried about things like improving sounds etc ...
    Whatever,hopefully Ferrari are going about their test schedule and really make the car atleast drivable for Kimi and Alonso as i am not expecting wins any time soon.

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    Blown wheel nuts are back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Nick View Post
    Blown wheel nuts are back.
    it looks like that is the only upgrade we have, we put them on then off, that we upgrade again by putting them on

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    and then again put them off….

    classic strategy of nothing of the old management: stay calm, we have huge upgrades coming soon, you will see. Yes, right.

    Sadly it will take some time to see whether the new guy will improve things, but it is impossible to do worse that SD !!!!

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    Where is the B-spec Car?
    God please help Fernando Alonso win his long-overdue title with Ferrari IA. And may FERRARI Dominate F1 Again..FORZA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammad Ansib View Post
    Where is the B-spec Car?
    See page 1 pic 1, next to the draped car. More robust and can drive through opposition albeit a little slower ( though possibly faster thn present machinery with similar handing just like 1991 I think, right Alain?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alesi1 View Post
    See page 1 pic 1, next to the draped car. More robust and can drive through opposition albeit a little slower ( though possibly faster thn present machinery with similar handing just like 1991 I think, right Alain?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Nick View Post
    Blown wheel nuts are back.
    We were doing blowing since the bahrain in season tests.
    Last edited by PadGeT; 14th May 2014 at 15:07.

    F1 show biz 2016 :
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    So what did we try to do in these tests? If we didn't test new parts then what did we do? How many more baselines do we need? We really need to just get on with it.

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    We did correlation between track data and factory base

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    We did correlation between track data and factory base
    We spent a lot of time with correlation work last year and it seems not much has changed for this year despit all those bullish remarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    So what did we try to do in these tests? If we didn't test new parts then what did we do? How many more baselines do we need? We really need to just get on with it.
    Probably changes are made under the hood, such as testing new PU parts that we can introduce for reliability upgrades.

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    Any word on what failed in the PU yesterday? Did they have to replace the ICE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    We spent a lot of time with correlation work last year and it seems not much has changed for this year despit all those bullish remarks.
    Ya, and should do they stop doing it based on last seasons misery ? what benefit will that bring ? Ypu do realise theres alot more going on back at the factory's windtunnel. If the 60% model model shows the same trend as track data, we can extrapolate them and do much swifter changes in the model before validation in FP1.

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Harley View Post
    Note engine program cost differences.

    I miss the 2013 sound so much. And the cost... wow.

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    I have not yet been to a race this year yet and last time it was MTL 2012 and dude it was a fantastic orgasmic sound. I wonder how it was in the days of the V12 !?!?!?!?!

    The FIA people got to be put in jail.

    Now coming up with artificial sound ? crazy stuff. F1 becoming a farce. Should not be allowed. I hope some will react and bring things back to where this sport belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    Ya, and should do they stop doing it based on last seasons misery ? what benefit will that bring ? Ypu do realise theres alot more going on back at the factory's windtunnel. If the 60% model model shows the same trend as track data, we can extrapolate them and do much swifter changes in the model before validation in FP1.
    No. I'm not suggesting they stop the correlation work. What I'm saying is we need to get a move on and fast. We will never catch up with the front runners because we'll fall even further behind them and those that were well behind us are already breathing behind our neck. How we do this year is critical to next year as it is essentially a progression. If we're not capable of pushing forward like this it is better to stay silent or be more conservative in your remarks. Everything that's happened over the last few days does it give you a lot of confidence? It doesn't to me. We really need to get cracking here otherwise it won't just be this year that is wasted but the years to follow as well.

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    yes but the focus I believe needs to be on the future, may be 2015, may be 2016. This season is over and we need to leverage the remaining GPs as test ground for the new car.

    Of course Ferrari cannot afford to simply let go entirely the current season, that is clear, but the effort for actual results now must be the absolute minimum to save face. The majority of resources must be dedicated to next year. I read that Allison is now entirely focused on new car or something along these lines anyway and that made me feel much better. I have no idea whether this is the guy who can do it, but I know that is what Ferrari needs to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamim179 View Post
    If we're not capable of pushing forward like this it is better to stay silent or be more conservative in your remarks.
    Only thing I agree with you.
    I hate seeing Luca tell the fans every year that its time to win.
    Its not like we are going anywhere if the team doesn't win. But maybe that me.

    Last edited by PadGeT; 14th May 2014 at 16:12.

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    So SS are around 1.5 seconds faster, just imagine the times mercs can do on them, thats terrifying ...

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    What is Lotus testing ?
    Those interested in Flow-viz, here's one








    Dear Red Bull, you try too hard !!
    Last edited by Rob; 14th May 2014 at 17:35.

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post

    What the... is Lotus testing ?
    The times without context don't mean a lot, even compared to Q on Saturday. There must be more rubber on the track (FP1,2,3+Q1,2,3+R+Test1,2), we don't know track temperatures compared to Q, which tyre they have used, fuel loads, etc. I don't think we can read a lot in the lap times without the proper context. Yes, probably they have moved forward but by how much exactly? Only Lotus can answer that at the moment.

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