Montmelo Test 13-15th May

[Kyss4k]

Truthfully, I'm getting used to the new sound, probably wouldn't think about it much if it weren't for the constant harping by all the broadcasters.
With twin turbos on the Indycars, I imagine they have separate exhaust pipes & are not regulated to prevent "exh. blowing" like F1, so have retained smaller diameter from turbo to outlet end. Also don't know about fuel use & fuel flow limits?
Those 4 things probably enhance their sound at least a bit. Too be honest didn't seem so great to my ear & were comparing a lot to the pre-season testing sounds, like the spitting & sputtering Torro Rosso.

I'm getting used to it as well, but then I play some video with V8 - V6 comparison... no competition there. And those V8s were already nothing compared to the V10s.

[WS6TransAm01]

how about screw the engine freeze, get DQ if so it must be, or grid penalties, yet get to test some new engine and chassis. Lets show some balls to these FIA cretins. The F14T seems to be a total fail, like every bits and piece on the car is poorly conceived.

I mean, I don't have the solution, but something fairly drastic I suspect is what is needed otherwise it will be another 2 decades before we win again ! And one was enough !!!

I don't often agree with people from NYC, but when I do...It is because they are spot on. It would be a great idea to run the remainder of the season as a multi-race testing and development t program for 2015. Brilliant!

I'm getting used to it as well, but then I play some video with V8 - V6 comparison... no competition there. And those V8s were already nothing compared to the V10s.

You can agree with people from NJ now as well. I said this in the development thread about a month ago... Clearly this season has gone tits up, might as well use every race as a test session. Pit 10 times to change wings apply flow-viz and so on... you get the idea...

[Nero Horse]

PitLaneTalk ‏@pitlanetalk

Nico Rosberg admits trumpet exhaust didn't improve sound. The idea will likely be abandoned #F1 #Formula1

[Winter]

I think that ridiculous thing at back of Mercedes was some kind of statement from them. They never planned to keep it, I think.

[windwaves]

You can agree with people from NJ now as well. I said this in the development thread about a month ago... Clearly this season has gone tits up, might as well use every race as a test session. Pit 10 times to change wings apply flow-viz and so on... you get the idea...

indeed, then it must be you the one ! I knew I had read it somewhere and found it a frigging great idea ! I suspect Ferrari thought about it too - hope so.

[abbottcostello]

I think that ridiculous thing at back of Mercedes was some kind of statement from them. They never planned to keep it, I think.

merc just wanted to serenade the other 10 teams while they did their testing! You've heard the old saying of blowing your own horn. Poor form by merc?

Ferrari needs to find their secret advantage!!! SOON

[Ed Harley]

I think that ridiculous thing at back of Mercedes was some kind of statement from them. They never planned to keep it, I think.

Here are news about it:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113829

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113947

[Winter]

Here are news about it:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113829

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113947

They just want to keep things just the way they are and made that "thing" to make fans agree It didn't improve the sound, but made the car look like something ripped out from a cartoon

[abbottcostello]

I've read that the live, in person sound is still ok, only doesn't make your ears bleed or cause permanent hearing loss. Anybody that can confirm that?

They need some of the sound capture things like we see (or used to in the past) for American NFL football games, so they could capture the sound of hitting & I guess players grunting or groaning! It looked like a clear plexiglas satellite dish with a microphone in the middle, that they pointed at the players. It basically concentrated low sounds so the mic would pick it up.

A few of those things at different places around the track couldn't hurt the experience & a lot less embarrassing for F1 in general!

[ALO]

They use parabolic microphones in MLB, NFL..etc

[abbottcostello]

They use parabolic microphones in MLB, NFL..etc

There you go, that's what I was trying to think of, thanks! (wasn't sure if I had seen them lately, but haven't really been looking)

Seems as they could try a few things like that for the broadcasts without a whole lot of trouble. I have a funny feeling Mercedes fitted that ridiculous trombone knowing full well everyone would laugh at it & maybe just drop the harping about bad sound. Suspicious that Lauda said F1 sounds fine, then they are the one to come up with a "solution"?

[JMCARC1]

I've read that the live, in person sound is still ok, only doesn't make your ears bleed or cause permanent hearing loss. Anybody that can confirm that?

They need some of the sound capture things like we see (or used to in the past) for American NFL football games, so they could capture the sound of hitting & I guess players grunting or groaning! It looked like a clear plexiglas satellite dish with a microphone in the middle, that they pointed at the players. It basically concentrated low sounds so the mic would pick it up.

A few of those things at different places around the track couldn't hurt the experience & a lot less embarrassing for F1 in general!

Yes, the sound live at Barcelona was very nice, only different and lower that the one from the V8s. The V8s are screamers and the V6s have different kinds of sound. Over there, I understand those who complain and those who don't!

I was able to see all the race without ear plugs!

João

[abbottcostello]

My son is going to Hockenheim in July for the German GP. Will be good to get some feedback from him as he misses the sound of the V8's. I remember Ferrari were running the flat 12 at the first races I went to at Watkins Glen (US GP), they were glorious as I recall, but times do change! I would not be surprised if these engines get to sound a little better in 2015, I have faith in the engineers in F1 & think improving this will be in their minds.

[Kiwi Nick]

I cannot imagine that a single engineer at Mercedes, Renault or Ferrari spend one second thinking about how to make the engines sound better. At least I hope that nobody at Ferrari is doing that, although they did waste time on the pit rig from space. Thinking of ways to improve the sound is for nutballs like Charlie Whiting.

[Greig]

Apart from Mercedes engineers coming up with the new exhaust they tested in Spain, then no probably not.

[ritsukka]

Unbelievable.This forum is working just like Italian mafia! How come conversation about favoring Alonso is locked when there has been lots of new information about the radio messages of Alonso and Raikkonen. Seems to me that it's not allowed to say anything that could be bad to Alonso's reputation.why don't you change the name of this forum to Alonso forum. I'm out from here.

[Greig]

[Suzie]

Unbelievable.This forum is working just like Italian mafia! How come conversation about favoring Alonso is locked when there has been lots of new information about the radio messages of Alonso and Raikkonen. Seems to me that it's not allowed to say anything that could be bad to Alonso's reputation.why don't you change the name of this forum to Alonso forum. I'm out from here.

Because there was already discussion about it in the race thread and a topic about that is only going to end one way - with arguments and an eventual locking of the thread.

Trust me, it wasn't locked by me because I favour Alonso. I don't like either of them and am pretty happy to see problems arising quite honestly

[AfterLife]

Because there was already discussion about it in the race thread and a topic about that is only going to end one way - with arguments and an eventual locking of the thread.

Trust me, it wasn't locked by me because I favour Alonso. I don't like either of them and am pretty happy to see problems arising quite honestly

Talking about Mafia, based on your happiness, Surely you are from Barzini family

[Suzie]

Talking about Mafia, based on your happiness, Surely you are from Barzini family

[diesel08]

Unbelievable.This forum is working just like Italian mafia! How come conversation about favoring Alonso is locked when there has been lots of new information about the radio messages of Alonso and Raikkonen. Seems to me that it's not allowed to say anything that could be bad to Alonso's reputation.why don't you change the name of this forum to Alonso forum. I'm out from here.

bye bye!

[bonzo]

Unbelievable.This forum is working just like Italian mafia! How come conversation about favoring Alonso is locked when there has been lots of new information about the radio messages of Alonso and Raikkonen. Seems to me that it's not allowed to say anything that could be bad to Alonso's reputation.why don't you change the name of this forum to Alonso forum. I'm out from here.

Come back, babe, come back!

[zike]

Unbelievable.This forum is working just like Italian mafia! How come conversation about favoring Alonso is locked when there has been lots of new information about the radio messages of Alonso and Raikkonen. Seems to me that it's not allowed to say anything that could be bad to Alonso's reputation.why don't you change the name of this forum to Alonso forum. I'm out from here.

eee....che cazzo vuoi

[Kiwi Nick]

eee....che cazzo vuoi

Vad fan du vill?