Austrian GP 2014 Race Thread

**Ed Harley** · 22nd June 2014, 14:08

IIRC and FWIW, SV won Monza in a Toro Rosso.

**SinanOzerS** · 22nd June 2014, 14:08

Originally Posted by JacKy

Wish massa crash into perez again..

We don't need it, Nando could catch him.

**Kristof_F40** · 22nd June 2014, 14:08

Originally Posted by Alesi1

Sorry mate can't compare to Schumi; vettel is a fraud, Schumi wasn't! The best driver was in the best car then. Vettel was not the best driver, yet was in the best car. Completely different sorry

Indeed, if we would have had the best car, Fernando would have won 4 championchips with Ferrari and still be the best driver.. Button is also a world champion, but I don't consider him among the best drivers on the grid..

**Kristof_F40** · 22nd June 2014, 14:09

Fernando's pace this race actually isn't that bad..

**JacKy** · 22nd June 2014, 14:10

Lol raikkonen...

**SinanOzerS** · 22nd June 2014, 14:10

Poor Kimi...

**IulianFerrari** · 22nd June 2014, 14:10

Originally Posted by Black Adder

Why is Kimi's pitt stop strategy always so dramatic. Kimi was behind Alonso before the 1st stop and ended up 5 or § places behind him.

Compliments of Ferrari strategy, the times when we had the a great strategist in the team are far behind us...

**FA fan** · 22nd June 2014, 14:10

LOL Kimi team radio

**JacKy** · 22nd June 2014, 14:11

Originally Posted by Kristof_F40

Fernando's pace this race actually isn't that bad..

Pace is good indeed. But i noticed that pace get better after we lose some fuel. We're not that good at the start.

**FerrariF60** · 22nd June 2014, 14:12

Originally Posted by SinanOzerS

Poor Kimi...

yup, i feel for him...that's all ferrari's missing, some more power

**Wildcat** · 22nd June 2014, 14:12

They really screwed up on Kimi with that strategy...

**Alesi1** · 22nd June 2014, 14:12

Classic Kimi; we need 2 tenths - kimis reply - give me more power then !

**JacKy** · 22nd June 2014, 14:13

damn first sector...

**hogo** · 22nd June 2014, 14:13

Originally Posted by FerrariF60

THIS....well said mate

Hello??? What about his year in crappy Torro Rosso? Vettel even managed to win with that car! Sorry but question Hamiltons talent (who's never raced in a lesser car) not Vettels.

**SinanOzerS** · 22nd June 2014, 14:13

Originally Posted by JacKy

damn first sector...

All about engine power unfortunately.

**Kristof_F40** · 22nd June 2014, 14:14

Originally Posted by Rob

True i know that. But to call him a fake due to the car is same as calling Schuey a fake because he had best car.

Ok, he is the true champion, but that doesn't make him as a driver "a champion", he was just a stupid kid in the right place at the right time, nothing more... There's just too much evidence that Vettel isn't that good of a driver. Schumacher was a champion and was very Lucky to have such good Ferrari's to extend his records. Fernando was a champion and didn't had the luck Schumacher had at Ferrari. Seb had the luck, but wasn't and isn't a "champion"

**Rob** · 22nd June 2014, 14:15

Originally Posted by hogo

Hello??? What about his year in crappy Torro Rosso? Vettel even managed to win with that car! Sorry but question Hamiltons talent (who's never raced in a lesser car) not Vettels.

Lewis and the 2009 Mclaren. That was a skip with wheels.

**JacKy** · 22nd June 2014, 14:15

now its under 2 sec.

**Ed Harley** · 22nd June 2014, 14:15

A champion is a champion. Period.

**Kristof_F40** · 22nd June 2014, 14:15

Originally Posted by hogo

Hello??? What about his year in crappy Torro Rosso? Vettel even managed to win with that car! Sorry but question Hamiltons talent (who's never raced in a lesser car) not Vettels.

Yes, on Monza in the rain from pole position with a car that had very good top speed, with trouble weekend for the front runners. Never forget that his teammate qualified 4th, his teammate was Bourdais, a crappy driver, so that care was capable of pole. Only thing he needed to do was drive a way frome pole, that's the only thing Seb can if he is in a good car.

**Kristof_F40** · 22nd June 2014, 14:16

Originally Posted by hogo

Hello??? What about his year in crappy Torro Rosso? Vettel even managed to win with that car! Sorry but question Hamiltons talent (who's never raced in a lesser car) not Vettels.

Yes, on Monza in the rain from pole position with a car that had very good top speed, with trouble weekend for the front runners. Never forget that his teammate qualified 4th, his teammate was Bourdais, a crappy driver, so that care was capable of pole. Only thing he needed to do was drive a way frome pole, that's the only thing Seb can if he is in a good car.

**DIEK** · 22nd June 2014, 14:16

Alo with hard tyres, is flying!

**Scuderia85** · 22nd June 2014, 14:17

alonso reeling in massa

**Alesi1** · 22nd June 2014, 14:17

Forget vettel. FA is catching massa, purple in sector 3

**IulianFerrari** · 22nd June 2014, 14:17

Originally Posted by Wildcat

They really screwed up on Kimi with that strategy...

Stupid strategy from Ferrari, not bothering Fernando at all if Kimi had pitted when it was needed, Alonso came in 2 laps after Magnussen when Kimi should have pitted. Looks like one of those seasons for Kimi