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    Ferrari calls for meeting on F1 future

    Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo has called for a meeting between the key players in F1 to discuss the sport's future, believing it has taken a “wrong turn”.

    Montezemolo has written a letter to Bernie Ecclestone – the commercial rights holder – as well as CVC chairman Donald McKenzie, because he wants to see new ideas and new involvement within the sport.

    “It is not an ultimatum, nor a threat, but a proposal to call together all the key players in the sport to sit down around a table and come up with new ideas that will see Formula 1 continue to set the benchmark in motorsport, on level terms with global events such as the Olympics and the football World Cup,” the article on the Ferrari website read.

    “The President wants to see a collective brainstorming from the group to act for the good of Formula 1. Contributions from all areas are of value; teams, sponsors, promoters and media, so that the key values of Formula 1 can be re-established. President Montezemolo would also like to see other high-end players invited, those who are currently not involved or only partially so; new media, social networks and colossi such as Google and Apple.”

    And Ferrari believes F1 is currently lacking the right combination of factors to be attractive to both sponsors and fans.

    “Formula 1 has to be based on technical innovation, research and development, but this must all be done with sustainable costs and above all, must be moved forward as part of a product that can put on a show. Because it is the show that draws in the commercial partners, the sponsors and, above all, the fans, who are the real end users of the Formula 1 product.

    “Finding the right mix of these ingredients will be vital for the sustainability and the future success of our much-loved sport.”

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    He's correct. They should do this.

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    I wonder what role would Google and Apple play?

    If we want to improve the racing factor, we should be talking to other major racing outfits who aren't in F1 such as Audi, Porsche, Toyota. These companies are involved in developing specialized racing cars, so they do take racing seriously. IMO, we can learn new things by talking to them about what attracts them to invest in the racing programs that they are currently in.

    If we can improve the racing in F1, I think the fans will come without any need for aggressive marketing on the internet or stuff like that.

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    F1 always seems to be needing to be fixed, has there ever been a period when the majority of fans were happy with the sport?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    F1 always seems to be needing to be fixed, has there ever been a period when the majority of fans were happy with the sport?
    That's a good question. I believe fans of RB, Williams ,Merc are into which of there drivers comes out ahead of their teamate each race as much as who wins the race. Ferrari fans always feel Alonso can get up front every race because he's that good. WE also keep waiting each race to see Kimi snap out of it and get on the podium. For me F1 needs no fixing except just keep team orders out of it. Oh and Ferrari needs to fix there car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anacleto View Post
    For me F1 needs no fixing except just keep team orders out of it.
    Why should they, if it's the team and their goals, that's most important ?

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    F1 always seems to be needing to be fixed, has there ever been a period when the majority of fans were happy with the sport?
    I was happy until 2009... Now its not F1, its F-Prius or F-PS3...

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    Luca is right, a meeting to find the best direction for F1's future is certainly needed. At the moment F1 is a bit lost, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    Why should they, if it's the team and their goals, that's most important ?
    Tell that to Vettel's teamate or Nico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anacleto View Post
    Tell that to Vettel's teamate or Nico.
    You must be joking, right ?

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    The powers that be in motorsport are gathering at Biggin Hill today (Wednesday) under the guise of the Formula 1 Commission in what could be termed a crisis meeting to address the growing dissatisfaction regarding several elements of the sport, including: fans turning off their TVs, embracing new media, cost cutting, lack of noise and a F1 Hall of Fame.

    High on the agenda will be measures to revamp the ‘show’ and keep fans interested in the light of a major switch off since the new era Formula 1 was unleashed to the public. Reports claim that viewership and race day attendances have declined dramatically since the onset of the new V6 turbo era.


    Read more http://www.grandprix247.com/2014/06/...ll-for-summit/

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Unless they are thinking of making technical changes, I am not looking forward to see how they will "revamp" it, because I'm afraid we'll just see more silly stuff similar to the double points for last race.

    If fans are unhappy because of the new engine sound, then they should focus on that, or just leave it be. Trying to spice things up with some other weird rules may turn out worse, IMO.

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    deleted my posting as it hasn't really to do something with actual rules
    as Greig said, Berne hasn't issued this rule change ... my posting came from the disappointment about the business practice shown again with the farce what happens now between Hockenheim and Nuerburgring ...
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    Lots of members here seem to undermine what Bernie has done for the sport. I still maintain he is the only sane mind in the sport. Maybe he is a fraud/cheat, power hungry bureaucrat, but he has done a hell of a job to keep this complex enigmatic sport floating.
    When Bernie retires, dies or goes to prison, those at the pinnacle of F1 & WMC will be forced to bite the bullet....

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Ferrari calls for meeting on F1 future

    Quote Originally Posted by Senna4Ever View Post
    Just wait until the regime of Bernie ends...
    then you can make serious thoughts about how to safe the sports ...

    with Bernie it will be only business ...

    Just a farce what happens now between Hockenheim and Nuerburgring ...
    Bernie did not want this new F1 either, but its easy to blame him I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greig View Post
    Bernie did not want this new F1 either, but its easy to blame him I guess.
    you're right
    therefore I deleted my posting as isn't really him to blame for the actual rules
    and the way he is doing the business isn't related to the actual rules ...
    "If I was driving for Red Bull [from 2008] probably I would have more championships, but because they were dominating between 2010 and 2014 probably I would never have driven for Ferrari. I am very happy and very proud to drive for Ferrari, all my time there.

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    F1 is in the pathetic state. It started to go downhill when they introduced ugly rare wings (year 2008? correct?). And since then F1 got worse and worse. Yet people that ruined this sport (mainly Max Mosley and co), will never admit this cos you know, they are always right and we stupid spectators are always wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    You must be joking, right ?
    Oh! I left out Williams . There's no holding either driver back. Great for us fans knowing neither will have to move over, just race. In your post you said " the team and there goals", Did you mean soccer? You must be joking, right?

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    Formula 1 fans (well me anyways)want racing...I'm not interested in fuel restricted endurance sessions. They have DRS, they have electric boost and efficient engines, fine, keep those.. now just bring back refuelling and get rid of fuel metering so teams can decide strategies and stints can become all out races again. With all the variables in F1 now, it should be exciting to see cars with different fuel levels actually racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anacleto View Post
    Oh! I left out Williams . There's no holding either driver back. Great for us fans knowing neither will have to move over, just race. In your post you said " the team and there goals", Did you mean soccer? You must be joking, right?
    No, I meant football!!!

    F1 show biz 2016 :
    Toto - "Ferrari are a real threat" .... Nico - "Awesome, everything is just awesome" .....Lulu - "Mental strength man, lifestyle man, I'll drive at 400% as ever man".... and then suddenly a wild Bull out of nowhere slams into a Ferrari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PadGeT View Post
    No, I meant football!!!
    Ny Giants or Jets ?

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    Given we're now apparently testing titanium blocks to generate sparks, this meeting cannot happen soon enough. I hope everything is on the table and can be discussed. F1 has become a bad joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Architect View Post
    Given we're now apparently testing titanium blocks to generate sparks, this meeting cannot happen soon enough. I hope everything is on the table and can be discussed. F1 has become a bad joke.
    Yes I saw that article and didnt know if i should cry or laugh. What a sad state the sport is in. I just keep wondering what is the next gimmick they will come up with.
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    Formula 1 to switch to standing restarts after safety cars in 2015

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114529
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    Not sure if I agree with that idea. Safety car is a procedure done purely for safety purposes, and should not be exploited as a means to spice up the race. There's nothing fair about unnecessarily interrupting a race with another standing start.

    I also wouldn't want to see the decision process on when to deploy SC being affected by this, such as having a higher tendency to deploy SC whenever an incident happens just because it's exciting as well. IMO, safety car is never a fair thing for the racers, but sometimes we must just for safety purposes, and it should remain that way, only for safety purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Harley View Post
    Formula 1 to switch to standing restarts after safety cars in 2015

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114529
    im not a fan of this. Not 1 bit. If they want to "spice up the show" tell the drivers at the restart to be more awake, to try make a jump on driver in front. F1 is loosing the sport, its becoming more worried about the show. Its a sport, not a tv show, not reality show, dont see Football bringing in silly little gimicks to "spice it up"
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    Well, to spice up the "show" they have decided to add sparks. What next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Harley View Post
    Well, to spice up the "show" they have decided to add sparks. What next?
    just where is this sport, sorry show going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Harley View Post
    Formula 1 to switch to standing restarts after safety cars in 2015

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114529
    Ok, I can accept the standing restarts, fine, but trying to "spice up" the show by bringing in artificial sparks, glowing brakes and double points for the final race is just really dumb. That's certainly NOT the way to improve F1. I don't think anybody wants to see those artificial gimmicks. They should simply bring back the rules that F1 had in the 90's or early 2000's, that was F1 racing. I'm sure most fans would be happy with the kind of rules that F1 had in the 90's/early 2000's...no DRS, no tyre saving, no engine saving, no fuel saving, no artificial gimmicks...just pure flat out racing.
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    What's wrong with Formula 1? Same thing that is wrong with most other sports in the world, the internet.

    Can you blame Formula 1? Sure some of the ideas are just plain stupid (spark blocks, trumpet exhaust, double points) but all they hear is US complaining because of the instant communication on the internet.

    There have always been different problems in F1. Drivers have always been nursing the car at points, saving fuel, preserving tires, etc. This is not a new phenomenon. What has been wrong with the racing this year? About half of the races have been pretty exciting if you ask me. That's a much better hit rate than Formula 1 had just 10-15 years ago when a certain red team won every race and the only position swaps were in the pits.

    We need to stop complaining so much or else we are going to lead the FIA to hurt the sport even more. Our world has turned into a bunch of whiners. It is not a right to have Formula 1, it is a luxury. It is not written anywhere that Formula 1 has big V12 engines, and they have to refuel, and they have to push every lap... Formula 1 is a sport that produces the fastest race cars in the world. That is still true, despite a massive change in technology that would take an automaker a decade to get into production. The gains these teams will make with this technology will be incredible. Embrace it, because it is the future. Energy recovers, computer programming, big data, that is the future. Cars are not made with manual stick shift gearboxes and carburetors anymore. They evolve and this is the next step.

    The FIA has made drastic changes, and knee-jerk reactions because of US. We are the reason they have done this, because we can't shut our mouths. Because everything they do we complain about. Enough already. If you don't like it go watch NASCAR, go watch WEC, go watch Indy Car. You will be back because Formula 1 is still the best we have.

    That said, the FIA need to have a look at themselves. Engines should have had a 24 month open development window. They should be more lenient on the regulations so cars look different again. They need to add more mechanical grip with larger rear tires to combat some aero wake. They need to remove gimmicks like double points. They need to stop this talk of cost cutting through budget cap and become more creative with solutions. Follow MotoGP. Give the small teams different tires or engine and fuel specs like Alonso said. Don't penalize the big teams that want to spend the money and quite frankly are the actual show.
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