Hungarian GP 2014 Saturday Qualifying Thread

**Alesi1** · 27th July 2014, 12:37

Originally Posted by vecchiasignora

If Alonso is the great driver he is, he would just jump into another better team to win. Why doesnt he? Why doesnt he if we are 6th 7th best car like some idiots claim?
Because in ferrari he is ensured of no challenger, elsewhere he wont get this special treatment we give him. He wont get this treatment in mercedes, mclaren red bull or williams.

Yeah I'm sure he thinks getting served up s...boxes is 'special'

**Giallo 550** · 27th July 2014, 17:16

Originally Posted by vecchiasignora

If Alonso is the great driver he is, he would just jump into another better team to win. Why doesnt he? Why doesnt he if we are 6th 7th best car like some idiots claim?
Because in ferrari he is ensured of no challenger, elsewhere he wont get this special treatment we give him. He wont get this treatment in mercedes, mclaren red bull or williams.

You are delusional.

**vcs316** · 27th July 2014, 18:20

Originally Posted by vecchiasignora

If Alonso is the great driver he is, he would just jump into another better team to win. Why doesnt he? Why doesnt he if we are 6th 7th best car like some idiots claim?
Because in ferrari he is ensured of no challenger, elsewhere he wont get this special treatment we give him. He wont get this treatment in mercedes, mclaren red bull or williams.

Are you off your meds?

**Brembo** · 27th July 2014, 22:31

Originally Posted by vcs316

Are you off your meds?

La Veccia is just sooo upset that Alonso isn't winning. Alonso for sure is her favorite driver and it's hard to see him not winning. She for sure a die hard Alonso fanatic. We all want the best for him and to stay and win @ Ferrari.

**Winter** · 28th July 2014, 04:55

Originally Posted by stefa

I am so glad that I am not this year at Hungaroring to watch THIS!

It was very enjoyable experience

**Brembo** · 28th July 2014, 05:46

Originally Posted by ManFromMilan

It is just ludicrous implying that there is anything underhanded at all.

If he is going to continue sulking and making up crap stories and rumors in the media, when and if he doesn't get his way, then i do see him loosing his seat to Vettel, as that would mean Lewis is even a bigger cry-baby than Vettel.

Well I'm glad he got his way not moving over for Nico. Comming up front from where he started! And then to get rewarded with a team order to move over! What a crybaby!

It's only points he would be giving up !

Could it be he set his car on fire just to sulk about it? Look how many fires Nico went through and never set a word. What a crybaby!

**ManFromMilan** · 28th July 2014, 07:43

Lewis throws the car of track on the first lap and is extremely lucky not to have ended his race just there. Rookie mistake as to finish first, first you have to finish.

Safety car comes out with Nico 10 sec. in front, with him having to take another very slow lap before he can change tyres. Loses out massively. Lucky Lewis gets bumped up the field.

Verne gets to a perfect scenario where he can block Nico and halts his progress on a damp track limiting his cars advantage. Nico gets called in by the team and once again loses more positions. As he pits Verne's tyres gives up and Lewis is once again extremely lucky to get by him and make up some positions.

Nico gets close to Lewis and is told by the team Lewis will not hold you up. Lewis drives the live out of his tyres to spite his own nose to stay in front. Nico not fighting Lewis(not damaging his cars tyres in the turbulent air) as he was told Lewis will let him pass doesn't attack Lewis and stays out of DRS range.

With his tyres not giving him enough advantage anymore Nico is stuck behind Lewis untill he pits. Lewis has now driven the best his tyres had to offer and gets behind a much slower Fernando. With no more life in them attacking is not an option and he clumsily has to wait for Fernando to make a mistake. King Alonso says:" You shall not pass"

Daniel catches up to Lewis and without to much difficulty dispatches Lewis as he can't use his cars advantage on worn tyres. Infront Fernando starts to struggle with his tyres as well and Daniel gets him on the straight with Lewis watching as a spectator.

Still with the faster car Lewis gets close to Fernando again but King Alonso adamantly says:" YOU shall not pass!"

Nico with a dry track and the fastest car catches Lewis. Being a team player at Merc and not wanting to take both cars out of the race Nico wait untill Lewis makes a mistake in turn one. With fresher tyres he goes on the outside of turn two but gets driven of the track(witch is against the rules BTW) as he doesn't give a damn if the both gets taken out or not. Lewis just drives for Lewis. Screw the team.

No other place to safely pass on the last lap and Nico stays and ends the race behind Lewis.

Nico ends the race closer to Lewis than Lewis was to Fernando.

So yeah another perfect example of Lewis getting lucky in the fastest car. Nico might have been able to still win the race, but what constructor wants to win a race if they could rather just settle for Lewis getting his way and finishing third.

I'm glad Lewis was his usual ignoramus as that kept Nico on fresher tyres away from Fernando in the final few laps.

It was not a stellar drive from him and it did once again show Lewis is costing his own team in his pursuit of his own glory.

Now if you could not see that in the race then i am of the opinion that you are not cannot capable of thinking for yourself and are just a sheep that has to take Sky's extreme biased propaganda as fact.

And although you could see Nico being disappointed at where he finished the race, he did not sulk or insult Lewis or the team. Although Nico is in my opinion not a Daniel, who i would like to see at Ferrari, he is far far closer to the class that would be welcome at Ferrari that Lewis.

**mirafiori** · 28th July 2014, 08:11

Originally Posted by ManFromMilan

Lewis throws the car of track on the first lap and is extremely lucky not to have ended his race just there. Rookie mistake as to finish first, first you have to finish.

Safety car comes out with Nico 10 sec. in front, with him having to take another very slow lap before he can change tyres. Loses out massively. Lucky Lewis gets bumped up the field.

Verne gets to a perfect scenario where he can block Nico and halts his progress on a damp track limiting his cars advantage. Nico gets called in by the team and once again loses more positions. As he pits Verne's tyres gives up and Lewis is once again extremely lucky to get by him and make up some positions.

Nico gets close to Lewis and is told by the team Lewis will not hold you up. Lewis drives the live out of his tyres to spite his own nose to stay in front. Nico not fighting Lewis(not damaging his cars tyres in the turbulent air) as he was told Lewis will let him pass doesn't attack Lewis and stays out of DRS range.

With his tyres not giving him enough advantage anymore Nico is stuck behind Lewis untill he pits. Lewis has now driven the best his tyres had to offer and gets behind a much slower Fernando. With no more life in them attacking is not an option and he clumsily has to wait for Fernando to make a mistake. King Alonso says:" You shall not pass"

Daniel catches up to Lewis and without to much difficulty dispatches Lewis as he can't use his cars advantage on worn tyres. Infront Fernando starts to struggle with his tyres as well and Daniel gets him on the straight with Lewis watching as a spectator.

Still with the faster car Lewis gets close to Fernando again but King Alonso adamantly says:" YOU shall not pass!"

Nico with a dry track and the fastest car catches Lewis. Being a team player at Merc and not wanting to take both cars out of the race Nico wait untill Lewis makes a mistake in turn one. With fresher tyres he goes on the outside of turn two but gets driven of the track(witch is against the rules BTW) as he doesn't give a damn if the both gets taken out or not. Lewis just drives for Lewis. Screw the team.

No other place to safely pass on the last lap and Nico stays and ends the race behind Lewis.

Nico ends the race closer to Lewis than Lewis was to Fernando.

So yeah another perfect example of Lewis getting lucky in the fastest car. Nico might have been able to still win the race, but what constructor wants to win a race if they could rather just settle for Lewis getting his way and finishing third.

I'm glad Lewis was his usual ignoramus as that kept Nico on fresher tyres away from Fernando in the final few laps.

It was not a stellar drive from him and it did once again show Lewis is costing his own team in his pursuit of his own glory.

Now if you could not see that in the race then i am of the opinion that you are not cannot capable of thinking for yourself and are just a sheep that has to take Sky's extreme biased propaganda as fact.

And although you could see Nico being disappointed at where he finished the race, he did not sulk or insult Lewis or the team. Although Nico is in my opinion not a Daniel, who i would like to see at Ferrari, he is far far closer to the class that would be welcome at Ferrari that Lewis.

Very well said, when Nico tried to pass Lewis on the last lap, if it was not for Nico the two cars would of touched, Lewis pushed Nico out wide leaving him no space and Nico almost went off the track, if you look at Alonso's line in that corner compared to Lewis it really should of led to a penalty.

**Brembo** · 28th July 2014, 08:17

You stated your case well! Lewis got up front driving like a champion that he also is. Again his team hit him between the eyes with team orders!! They got to be kidding! "Great race, great driving Lewis now move over and let Nico pass!" Forgetabout it . He refused to be Rubenized ! By the way, I think of Nico as one of the best drivers in F1. So far for me this year F1 is great. Each team for the most part lets their drivers race against each other. So besides watching who wins, we have a lot of racing going on from #2 spot down fighting for points. Remember MS parking his Ferrari on the track to mess up Alonso. SO what! We all still loved him.

**Thomm** · 28th July 2014, 08:38

Why on Earth would someone let his closest rival pass him? Practically Mercedes has the constructor title in the bag already. Its insane to blame Lewis. Also if someone can only see he had luck with SC-s. Its barely equaled his Q. Btw Kimi froced Vettel off in t3 the same way ;) Both were great battles, just what people like to watch in a race.

**ManFromMilan** · 28th July 2014, 08:42

Originally Posted by Brembo

Remember MS parking his Ferrari on the track to mess up Alonso. SO what! We all still loved him.

Problem with that is MS was guilty and the prove was there to show it, brilliant try anyway.

Nico did not intentionally "park his car" in Monaco, there was no evidence to support it.

Then you can also say Lewis did deliberately spun to impede Nico in Austria, although that would be just as incorrect an assessment as saying Nico missed his braking point in Monaco. But accidents happen in F1 and Lewis moaning and bitching about everything that does not go his way is just getting old and his fans and Sky jumping on the band wagon just irritates me to no end.

It is really stupid and irrational in how, without facts to support it, all the glory has to be bestowed on him. Just like Brundle forced the idea that it was such a good drive by Lewis in the podium ceremony when the facts clearly tells you it was just a lucky to be at the right place at the right time and very selfish race by Lewis where he actually should have done better with the car he had.

**ManFromMilan** · 28th July 2014, 08:45

But we digress....

This is not the fan site of a Merc jobbo.

Forza Ferrari

May the summer break brings us a faster F14T and more podiums.

**DJTaurus** · 28th July 2014, 08:46

Most of us "hate" Lewis including me but we must admit that he is out of luck with lots of mechanical failures and slow pit stops (in favour of nico) during the season. I would only judge him when Mercedes will treat him in equal terms with nico.

**ManFromMilan** · 28th July 2014, 09:50

Originally Posted by DJTaurus

Most of us "hate" Lewis including me but

Saying that you don't like him when you clearly do, doesn't make him any better or your conspiracy theories any less ridiculous

**hogo** · 28th July 2014, 11:03

Originally Posted by ManFromMilan

Lewis throws the car of track on the first lap and is extremely lucky not to have ended his race just there. Rookie mistake as to finish first, first you have to finish.

Safety car comes out with Nico 10 sec. in front, with him having to take another very slow lap before he can change tyres. Loses out massively. Lucky Lewis gets bumped up the field.

Verne gets to a perfect scenario where he can block Nico and halts his progress on a damp track limiting his cars advantage. Nico gets called in by the team and once again loses more positions. As he pits Verne's tyres gives up and Lewis is once again extremely lucky to get by him and make up some positions.

Nico gets close to Lewis and is told by the team Lewis will not hold you up. Lewis drives the live out of his tyres to spite his own nose to stay in front. Nico not fighting Lewis(not damaging his cars tyres in the turbulent air) as he was told Lewis will let him pass doesn't attack Lewis and stays out of DRS range.

With his tyres not giving him enough advantage anymore Nico is stuck behind Lewis untill he pits. Lewis has now driven the best his tyres had to offer and gets behind a much slower Fernando. With no more life in them attacking is not an option and he clumsily has to wait for Fernando to make a mistake. King Alonso says:" You shall not pass"

Daniel catches up to Lewis and without to much difficulty dispatches Lewis as he can't use his cars advantage on worn tyres. Infront Fernando starts to struggle with his tyres as well and Daniel gets him on the straight with Lewis watching as a spectator.

Still with the faster car Lewis gets close to Fernando again but King Alonso adamantly says:" YOU shall not pass!"

Nico with a dry track and the fastest car catches Lewis. Being a team player at Merc and not wanting to take both cars out of the race Nico wait untill Lewis makes a mistake in turn one. With fresher tyres he goes on the outside of turn two but gets driven of the track(witch is against the rules BTW) as he doesn't give a damn if the both gets taken out or not. Lewis just drives for Lewis. Screw the team.

No other place to safely pass on the last lap and Nico stays and ends the race behind Lewis.

Nico ends the race closer to Lewis than Lewis was to Fernando.

So yeah another perfect example of Lewis getting lucky in the fastest car. Nico might have been able to still win the race, but what constructor wants to win a race if they could rather just settle for Lewis getting his way and finishing third.

I'm glad Lewis was his usual ignoramus as that kept Nico on fresher tyres away from Fernando in the final few laps.

It was not a stellar drive from him and it did once again show Lewis is costing his own team in his pursuit of his own glory.

Now if you could not see that in the race then i am of the opinion that you are not cannot capable of thinking for yourself and are just a sheep that has to take Sky's extreme biased propaganda as fact.

And although you could see Nico being disappointed at where he finished the race, he did not sulk or insult Lewis or the team. Although Nico is in my opinion not a Daniel, who i would like to see at Ferrari, he is far far closer to the class that would be welcome at Ferrari that Lewis.

Very good summary, sir!

This is what everybody would see if they just mute Sky Sports commentary.