Hungarian GP 2014 Saturday Qualifying Thread

[Domo-kun]

Asking this again and again...
Why Kimi was not sent on track again? What is going on at Ferrari? o_O;
I am starting to believe the rumours that Alonso can resign if Ferrari is not top 3 in the manufacturers series and thus Kimi is kept away from the points..

It sounds so rediculous that it effing starts to make sense, since Kimi is not THAT bad driver.. O_O;;
(personal opinion)

When Kimi, after two years of rallying, came back to F1 to drive to Lotus... He had issues with the power steering. Lotus did all they could and Kimi performed well.
Then he came back to Ferrari, and we (personal view) all felt that now we'll get at least the manufacturer's championship (well, I was "sure" of that at least).
But the performance he has delivered is FAR from what we (I personally) expected.. What the F is going on?!?! o_O

[fratelliferrari]

I feel for him. He has had terrible bad luck compared to Rosberg.

Uhhm I don't at all! I jump of my seat everytime he crashes/DNF!
Never liked him and will never like him!

[Hornet]

Asking this again and again...
WhyKimi was not sent on track again? What is going on at Ferrari? o_O;
I am starting to believe the rumours that Alonso can resign if Ferrari is not top 3 in the manufacturers series and thus Kimi is kept away from the points..

It sounds so rediculous that it effing starts to make sense, since Kimi is not THAT bad driver.. O_O;;
(personal opinion)

When Kimi, after two years of rallying, came back to F1 to drive to Lotus... He had issues with the power steering. Lotus did all they could and Kimi performed well.
Then he came back to Ferrari, and we (personal view) all felt that now we'll get at least the manufacturer's championship (well, I was "sure" of that at least).
But the performance he has delivered is FAR from what we (I personally) expected.. What the F is going on?!?! o_O

Right, so Ferrari is trying to intentionally screw up the WCC so Alonso would leave?

Kimi wasn't sent back out because the team never thought a Marussia would be faster. With Lewis and Pastor out, they just had to cover Marussia and Caterham

[Nova]

Yea, but these r experienced people..u always cover yourself...dont take anything 4 granted.
There was either something wrong w/Kimi's car, or someone made a total bonehead call.
Thought those days were over...guess again...

And what do we put RB's performance momentum to? Is it aero, track, or did Reno come up w/something that we havent?

[NasI]

Why our front wing is so basic? What are they doing at the factory all this time?

[F1NAC]

Why our front wing is so basic? What are they doing at the factory all this time?

Because it is hard to balance rear and front downforce. Maybe our wing is doing pretty good job. Transfering load around the tyre. Producing vortices to the bargeboards etc.

[REDARMYSOJA]

they didn't miss judged maurissia.they missjudged JULES the young ferrari driver

I think so too. This makes the third time this season Bianchi has beaten Kimi. Twice in the Marussia, today and at Monaco, and one when he drove the Ferrari at the Silverstone test, his times were just a tick under Alonso's P1 and P2 times and better than Kimi's P1 and P2 times.

I say take a chance and put the kid in Kimi's seat.

[Ed Harley]

It doesn't really matter who sits in the car which the team forgets/fails/misjudges the situation to send out.

Mr Mattiacci has a big job to do when even basic team functions do not seem to work.

[Domo-kun]

Right, so Ferrari is trying to intentionally screw up the WCC so Alonso would leave?
Kimi wasn't sent back out because the team never thought a Marussia would be faster. With Lewis and Pastor out, they just had to cover Marussia and Caterham

Kimi's time was not that good...
Really ... Kimi's time was NOT that good.
Even I, with my racing experience from couple of IRL carting sessions and many, many GT5 sessions could clearly see that.. :P

And that tinfoil-hat -thingie...
Yeah..
But still!! We all (I think) know that Kimi is better than these results have shown! FAlonso could be better, but the difference between these two is redicilous right now!
Kimi was closer to Alonso when he was driving for Lotus for God's sake! Where did his speed go? Where?
Motivation? Yeah, he want's to WIN! Like Alonso..

I'm still wearing mah tinfoil hat. ;)
I really don't know why, I was really, really hoping for manufacturer's championship trophy this year.. Imagine my dissapointment when Kimi is failing, failing and failing again and again and again again.. :P
... dang ... :D

[Alesi1]

No conspiracy guys, the criterion for Alonso leaving was satisfied as at the German gp, he can leave now whatever happens here on in.

[Hornet]

Kimi's time was not that good...
Really ... Kimi's time was NOT that good.
Even I, with my racing experience from couple of IRL carting sessions and many, many GT5 sessions could clearly see that.. :P

And that tinfoil-hat -thingie...
Yeah..
But still!! We all (I think) know that Kimi is better than these results have shown! FAlonso could be better, but the difference between these two is redicilous right now!
Kimi was closer to Alonso when he was driving for Lotus for God's sake! Where did his speed go? Where?
Motivation? Yeah, he want's to WIN! Like Alonso..

I'm still wearing mah tinfoil hat. ;)
I really don't know why, I was really, really hoping for manufacturer's championship trophy this year.. Imagine my dissapointment when Kimi is failing, failing and failing again and again and again again.. :P
... dang ... :D

Well today's result is not about Kimi's gap to Alonso. Of course Kimi is closer to Alonso than 12 grid position.

Today result is due to the team taking a risk, and it did not work out. So you do not need to find reasons for why Kimi is that far back at P17, because the result was due to the strategy not working.

Sometimes things like that happen. Not just to Kimi but to Alonso as well. There was a race in Sepang in the rain, where Alonso had a damage front wing and the team decided not to pit Alonso because they think the wing can hold on until the pit stop to change tires. Unfortunately the wing broke off and the race was gone. It was a risk that if it worked out, Alonso could save an extra stop. But it did not work out as planned, and sometimes that happens.

[sav_pap]

Forget Nando. He is already part of another team.

[vcs316]

Can't wait for this season to end and hope+pray for a better car in 2015.

[fratelliferrari]

Forget Nando. He is already part of another team.

Didn't know you work for Ferrari

[vcs316]

Right, so Ferrari is trying to intentionally screw up the WCC so Alonso would leave?

Kimi wasn't sent back out because the team never thought a Marussia would be faster. With Lewis and Pastor out, they just had to cover Marussia and Caterham

And Kimi's time just wasn't enough. I am not blaming the strategists alone; Kimi too has an input on whether he wants to do another lap or not. Humiliated by a Marussia, really?

EDIT: Kimi did question the strategy:

Kimi Räikkönen says he repeatedly questioned Ferrari's tyre strategy in the first phase of qualifying for the Hungarian Grand Prix, during which he was eliminated by Marussia driver Jules Bianchi.

With Mercedes driver Lewis Hamilton and Lotus' Pastor Maldonado stopping as a result of technical problems, Räikkönen and team-mate Fernando Alonso tried to get through to Q2 using only the Medium tyre.

But Bianchi found a considerable amount of time on the Soft rubber and, to the surprise of the Ferrari crew, usurped Räikkönen by 0.064s.

"The plan was to go out but the team said we were fine," he explained.

"I questioned it a few times to be 100 per cent sure. The end result is what we can see. Yesterday afternoon and this morning it was a bit difficult to get grip with the harder tyres. With the Soft it's been quicker all weekend."

Alonso enjoyed a smoother afternoon, progressing to Q3 and claiming a spot on the third row of the grid.

"In Q3 we had the rain and Magnussen's crash, but we stayed calm to get a lap together," said Alonso.

"P5 on the clean side is good for us. We have a good possibility of a result. Dry or wet, we can be competitive.

"I think we are behind Williams and Red Bull; some circuits a bit better, some circuits a bit worse. We have two Red Bulls ahead, one Williams ahead and one behind. Hopefully we can go into the battle and get some points."

[ARUN M KARUNAN]

Uhhm I don't at all! I jump of my seat everytime he crashes/DNF!
Never liked him and will never like him!

why.so he is black?huh?

[fratelliferrari]

why.so he is black?huh?

No I don't like his attitude! And I don't like Vettel either at all so stop calling me a racist

[ManFromMilan]

Forget Nando. He is already part of another team.

You must be a Macca-fanboy, because Fernando is out and out a Ferrari man for the next couple of years, if not longer.

So yes, forget about Fernando in a Mclaren race seat.

[sav_pap]

Didn't know you work for Ferrari

Its not necessary to work for Scuderia to know that. There are many other sources. You dont have to buy it. Take it or leave it.

[ManFromMilan]

why.so he is black?huh?

I don't like him either. He is a overrated prima donna. His attitude, as he showed it once again in Monaco this year, is why i don't like him.

[fratelliferrari]

I don't like him either. He is a overrated prima donna. His attitude, as he showed it once again in Monaco this year, is why i don't like him.

Well said mate, but some people just don't like to hear that I guess

[vcs316]

Uhhm I don't at all! I jump of my seat everytime he crashes/DNF!
Never liked him and will never like him!

And I would not want him race for Ferrari. He's too "artificial".

[zike]

Its not necessary to work for Scuderia to know that. There are many other sources. You dont have to buy it. Take it or leave it.

If he leaves than he leaves, so what.....scuderia was here before him and will be after him

[Alonsomaniac]

Hm......this was eh....stupid. First of all Kimi's time was far from great, then Kimi himself expressed his worries about that and STILL they played it down. And then it was too late.
Fernando did just what he always does, so no surprise there.
Mattiaci has some work to do......first of all, always trust the intuition of your drivers, in this case Kimi. Kimi KNEW he had not driven a good lap and he felt it could just not be enough. If a driver has that feeling, it is generally the right feeling. A team should always react on that.....because now not only Kimi's race is gone, but this is also very bad for his trust in the team.
Bad move.
I myself feel sorry for Lewis. He did not deserve this. Like him or not, he is a good driver who seems to have all the bad luck.

[ManFromMilan]

Well said mate, but some people just don't like to hear that I guess

Yeah, the real racists usually screams racism first, imo. Kinda like the one who farts and then asks if "anybody smells something funny"

[Alonsomaniac]

Its not necessary to work for Scuderia to know that. There are many other sources. You dont have to buy it. Take it or leave it.

Ther are many soources, yes, except one: Fernando Alonso. He said this is his last team many times and he has never withdrawn that. As long as he doesn't do that, you can have as many sources as you want, but Alonso is the only one that matters.

[RedRebel40]

We need the master tactician Ross Brawn as fast as possible!!

[Alonsomaniac]

why.so he is black?huh?

Oh come on.....

[bonzo]

"Hopefully we can go into the battle and get some points". These are words of Alonso, twice WDC and Ferrari driver. Poor Alonso! What have the last 6-7 years done to you! Ferrari humiliation is complete. It is not only the car that needs redesign, it is the team first. Marco's job is a huge challenge. Crossing the jungle alone. Wish him luck!!

[ManFromMilan]

We need the master tactician Ross Brawn as fast as possible!!

With the teams doing away with just a team Principal to lead them, keep MM and also bring in Brawn and Flavio into the fold. That could be a real dream team.