Raikkonen has faith Ferrari will deliver winning car in 2015

[Greig]

Well said, and I completely agree. There's no doubt that when he's got a car that is to his liking, then Kimi is one of the best and fastest drivers ever.

Same could be said for nearly every other driver though, so I don't think this makes Kimi anything special.

[F2003GA]

Hello,

I 've seen this info

“Au milieu de toute cette euphorie, il ne faudra pas oublier de présenter déjà nos excuses à Seb (Vettel) et Kimi (Raikkonen) pour la voiture que nous donneront en 2015,” confie un ingénieur de la Scuderia au journaliste italien Leo Turrini.

"in the middle of this euphoria, we should not forget to say sorry to seb and kimi for the 2015 car"

Source: http://www.nextgen-auto.com/Lauda-Re...ute,84874.html

Sounds good..............

[Nero Horse]

Same could be said for nearly every other driver though, so I don't think this makes Kimi anything special.

Not every other driver can be as fast with a car to their liking though. I know that Kimi isn't exactly your "favorite" but come on let's give him at least some credit. We've seen how fast he can be when everything clicks into place.

[jpalmito]

Hello,

I 've seen this info

“Au milieu de toute cette euphorie, il ne faudra pas oublier de présenter déjà nos excuses à Seb (Vettel) et Kimi (Raikkonen) pour la voiture que nous donneront en 2015,” confie un ingénieur de la Scuderia au journaliste italien Leo Turrini.

"in the middle of this euphoria, we should not forget to say sorry to seb and kimi for the 2015 car"

Source: http://www.nextgen-auto.com/Lauda-Re...ute,84874.html

Sounds good..............

I doubt this story Is true but if it´s real,this kind of people have nothing to do With formula one team.he should be fired immediatly.
Lack of motivation Is inacceptable in such competitive sports.

[Katu]

why i haven't seen "sorry" for this year's car?

[Kiwi Nick]

Hello,

I 've seen this info

“Au milieu de toute cette euphorie, il ne faudra pas oublier de présenter déjà nos excuses à Seb (Vettel) et Kimi (Raikkonen) pour la voiture que nous donneront en 2015,” confie un ingénieur de la Scuderia au journaliste italien Leo Turrini.

"in the middle of this euphoria, we should not forget to say sorry to seb and kimi for the 2015 car"

Source: http://www.nextgen-auto.com/Lauda-Re...ute,84874.html

Sounds good..............

All of those comments point to 2015 being ugly. And the reasons can be laid squarely at the feet of the managers and engineers who did not do as Lauda said, begin the hard work of improving the PU immediately following Melbourne. After that first race it was no mystery that Mercedes was way ahead in PU design and development.

[Ed Harley]

I don't think that the rumoured worse data results relate so much to PU but to the chassis.

[Greig]

Not every other driver can be as fast with a car to their liking though. I know that Kimi isn't exactly your "favorite" but come on let's give him at least some credit. We've seen how fast he can be when everything clicks into place.

Yes nearly every driver will be quick if they sit in a car that suits them. Sadly it's very rare it all clicks into place for Kimi.

[NickEice]

Point in case, Nico Rosberg, unless you think he is an elite talent...

[KimiBot]

Raikkonen and his annus horribilis

http://bbs.hupu.com/11268129.html

[Nero Horse]

Raikkonen and his annus horribilis

http://bbs.hupu.com/11268129.html

"Fernando and Kimi are both world champions and are both extremely fast drivers. If you give Kimi a car that he can work with then it is difficult to put a cigarette paper between them." - James Allison ...I definitely agree with that statement.

For Ferrari's sake, I really-really hope Kimi gets the front of the car to suit him next season.

[AfterLife]

"Fernando and Kimi are both world champions and are both extremely fast drivers. If you give Kimi a car that he can work with then it is difficult to put a cigarette paper between them." - James Allison ...I definitely agree with that statement.

For Ferrari's sake, I really-really hope Kimi gets the front of the car to suit him next season.

That is the difference. Considering Ferrari's current situation for a driver like Kimi Raikkonen it takes 3 or 4 years to challenge for championship but again considering Ferrari's current situation for a driver like Fernando Alonso it takes 2 years (maybe even 1) to challenge for championship.

[Nero Horse]

That is the difference. Considering Ferrari's current situation for a driver like Kimi Raikkonen it takes 3 or 4 years to challenge for championship but again considering Ferrari's current situation for a driver like Fernando Alonso it takes 2 years (maybe even 1) to challenge for championship.

Can't a person say anything positive about Kimi here without someone immediately jumping out and saying "oh but Alonso is better because of that and this"? You are a Alonso fan, yes I get it.

[AfterLife]

Can't a person say anything positive about Kimi here without someone immediately jumping out and saying "oh but Alonso is better because of that and this"? You are a Alonso fan, yes I get it.

Actually I was comparing them. I said nothing bad about Kimi Raikkonen.

[KimiBot]

[I]

For Ferrari's sake, I really-really hope Kimi gets the front of the car to suit him next season.

Kimi had a samekind of problems when he went to Lotus, but they did fix it kind of fast, maybe 5-6 months, then Kimi said: Now we have a good car.
I believe it was Allison who fixed that problem, and as we all remember, Lotus was mediocre team, but after that fix, Lotus was a top team.
This years Ferrari had also other problems than that front, too small turbo, powerless PU, just slow car.
But now they know everything what was problematic, and they can fix all.
Ferrari is strong 2015.

[Nero Horse]

Actually I was comparing them. I said nothing bad about Kimi Raikkonen.

Ok then never mind.

[Winter]

That is the difference. Considering Ferrari's current situation for a driver like Kimi Raikkonen it takes 3 or 4 years to challenge for championship but again considering Ferrari's current situation for a driver like Fernando Alonso it takes 2 years (maybe even 1) to challenge for championship.

It took him 5 years to get zero championships.

[AfterLife]

It took him 5 years to get zero championships.

With your logic, because Fernando Alonso did beat kimi raikkonen with nearly three times more points, kimi raikkonen won't be champion in 15 years but I want to make it easy for you. Ask kimi raikkonen to be second in wdc for once with 3rd or 4th fastest car on the grid.

[Katu]

With your logic, because Fernando Alonso did beat kimi raikkonen with nearly three times more points, kimi raikkonen won't be champion in 15 years but I want to make it easy for you. Ask kimi raikkonen to be second in wdc for once with 3rd or 4th fastest car on the grid.

the car is not to his likings, don't ask him that

[eddie]

While I am in no way saying that Kimi is not a good driver or insinuating that he isn't Championship material; the points itself speak volumes. For the drivers, that is a very important KPI.

[ManFromMilan]

It took him 5 years to get zero championships.

But five years that he immensely impressed by taking Ferrari to places where no other driver could.

You don't have to like him, but his record in what he has achieved speaks volumes and that is what many Tifosi will remember and love about him.

By needlessly nit picking and being disrespectful you will only keep the support from your favorite driver on this forum as you will never be able to justify your negativity towards him. I support Kimi and will do so next season, but will also support what Fernando did with Ferrari in his time with the team.

[Silent Bob]

Ya we get Alonso was good, but can we at least try and support our current drivers. I'm getting kind of tired of this Alonso lovefest. He's gone and I really don't care at this moment, what he did the last five years. Right now I'm more concerned about what direction Ferrari and "it's" drivers are heading in. Alonso is a competitor now. Get over it.

[mark p]

Ya we get Alonso was good, but can we at least try and support our current drivers. I'm getting kind of tired of this Alonso lovefest. He's gone and I really don't care at this moment, what he did the last five years. Right now I'm more concerned about what direction Ferrari and "it's" drivers are heading in. Alonso is a competitor now. Get over it.

+1000. Last year my favorite drivers were Alonso and Raikkonen, the years before Alonso and Massa. Thiz year Vettel and Raikkonen. Whoever drives the Ferraris are the best in my book, i am blind to all the rest. If they are not red they are dead in my mind. Forza Vettel Forza Raikkonen....who was the Spanish guy who used to drive for Ferrari I just forgot his name?

[Ed Harley]

With your logic, because Fernando Alonso did beat kimi raikkonen with nearly three times more points, kimi raikkonen won't be champion in 15 years but I want to make it easy for you. Ask kimi raikkonen to be second in wdc for once with 3rd or 4th fastest car on the grid.

Let's hope that the team is able to produce a 3rd or 4th fastest car on the grid first as that is in no way guaranteed.

[Senna4Ever]

Can't a person say anything positive about Kimi here without someone immediately jumping out and saying "oh but Alonso is better because of that and this"? You are a Alonso fan, yes I get it.

Can't a person say anything about a former Ferrari driver here who put the car to positions where not the most optimistic writer would have dreamed to be (based on the capabilities of the car) without someone immediately jumping out and saying "oh but Kimi was so poor because this and that"?

[KimiBot]

Can't a person say anything about a former Ferrari driver here who put the car to positions where not the most optimistic writer would have dreamed to be (based on the capabilities of the car) without someone immediately jumping out and saying "oh but Kimi was so poor because this and that"?

I think there are many other threads where people are talking about what you wish.
This thread has different meaning, we are looking forward here: Raikkonen has faith Ferrari will deliver winning car in 2015

Also, that news was coming from Ferrari`s technical staff, they were telling what was problems with 2014 car.

[Silent Bob]

Can't a person say anything about a former Ferrari driver here who put the car to positions where not the most optimistic writer would have dreamed to be (based on the capabilities of the car) without someone immediately jumping out and saying "oh but Kimi was so poor because this and that"?

Might be best to go preach to the McLaren faithful. They'd join you in praising Alonso and bashing Vettle & Kimi.

[Nero Horse]

Ya we get Alonso was good, but can we at least try and support our current drivers. I'm getting kind of tired of this Alonso lovefest. He's gone and I really don't care at this moment, what he did the last five years. Right now I'm more concerned about what direction Ferrari and "it's" drivers are heading in. Alonso is a competitor now. Get over it.

+1000. Last year my favorite drivers were Alonso and Raikkonen, the years before Alonso and Massa. Thiz year Vettel and Raikkonen. Whoever drives the Ferraris are the best in my book, i am blind to all the rest. If they are not red they are dead in my mind. Forza Vettel Forza Raikkonen....

+1000

Completely agree.

[Winter]

With your logic, because Fernando Alonso did beat kimi raikkonen with nearly three times more points, kimi raikkonen won't be champion in 15 years but I want to make it easy for you. Ask kimi raikkonen to be second in wdc for once with 3rd or 4th fastest car on the grid.

Yes, Alonso did beat Kimi, but.....oh, thanks Katu, you answered that one for me..

And it seems that Allison is copying my excuse for Kimis bad season.

Just give Kimi 4 more years and he will bring at least as many championships as Alonso did. Alonso is not a Ferrari driver anymore and it's pointless to say what he could do with Ferrari in 2015 or 2030 unless he rejoins the team. He is a great driver but him being great doesn't do any good for Ferrari..

"Kimi struggled all season to get it handling in a way he likes, complaining constantly about the front-end feel of the car. Raikkonen is highly sensitive to understeer. He hates a car that won't turn in the way he wants. He says it's been that way ever since he started racing." That was quote from annus horibilis. Fix the front-end issues and Kimi is back.

[abbottcostello]

Actually sounds like Kimi's inability to get a comfort level in the F14 T is a lot like what Button went through in 2013 (or maybe 2012), it really needed a redo of the chassis in Jenson's case to change the F/R weight balance, so he just needed to "tough it out" for the season. Ferrari tried different things with no more success than McLaren had with JB's car that year.
I watched Kimi at Lotus & was pretty happy that (unbelievably) Ferrari took him on again. Was a painful season all around, glad to hear Kimi upbeat for 2015. Please let it be more than blowing smoke by our PR people (if there is any such person left in the Scuderia:xmasbiggrin:).

Forza Kimi... Forza Seb

And if the Red cars struggle you'll find me in the General Discussion Forum :xmaswink: