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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    What are you two talking about ???? Kimi will win it Seb will finish fourth .
    How will Seb get 4th? unless there is a perfect safety car for him.. after the first few laps he will already be "1 drive trough" behind the Williams and Lotus.. IF he can have free are the whole race, than he can catch up, but I don't see that happening..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristof_F40 View Post
    How will Seb get 4th? unless there is a perfect safety car for him.. after the first few laps he will already be "1 drive trough" behind the Williams and Lotus.. IF he can have free are the whole race, than he can catch up, but I don't see that happening..
    Not sure about a "perfect" safety car but there's bound to be one. Did you forget... there are two McLarens running

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristof_F40 View Post
    How will Seb get 4th? unless there is a perfect safety car for him.. after the first few laps he will already be "1 drive trough" behind the Williams and Lotus.. IF he can have free are the whole race, than he can catch up, but I don't see that happening..
    Don't forget that this person Jax has crystal ball!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    What are you two talking about ???? Kimi will win it Seb will finish fourth .
    Oohh man how much i love your posts,i want to believe them with all my hart but....!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristof_F40 View Post
    Agree.. If Kimi can't get between both Mercs at the start, I think we need to focus on P3 so we have a podium with Kimi and make sure we don't loose it.. Lotus will indeed be trying very hard, but so will Bottas.
    For Seb, we know he has a fast car, but he needs to survive first lap, also Verstappen is behind him and he wants to make progress and we all know what happened in Monaco so, Seb needs to look out.
    If Seb has a clean first lap, he can make progress but I think that Felipe will be a problem, since the Williams isn't that bad and hard to overtake on the straight, so we could be stuck behind him (remember Australia). Therefore I think we need to be flexible with strategy. If there is good progress the first few laps, ok, if we're stuck behind someone, I think we need to think of an early pit, if we can get clean are, then we can do our own pace..
    We should go for maximum attack with Seb, not much to loose.. Also very short pitlane here so you loose less time..
    Versatappen will behave himself. He just got ****canned for trying to avoid a brake testing grosjean.
    Massa will be the problem for SV. The williams straight line speed is great and FM is not the easiest person to pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    What are you two talking about ???? Kimi will win it Seb will finish fourth .
    Sure. and pigs will fly one day.
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    I don't think Kimi can take the fight to the Mercs today, I'm expecting one very very boring race up front. Two chains will storm off and Ros won't be allowed to attack. Hopefully Seb can save it from being a complete waste of 2hrs and provide some exciting racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormsearcher View Post
    Sure. and pigs will fly one day.
    Pigs really can fly

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    Cool

    I think Vet has the race pace to finish 4th, there is a lot of pessimism here.

    I remember in Malaysia when Kimi picked up the puncture and a lot of people here throw in the towel for Kimi, however he ended up 4th.

    Today if Vettel can make it into the top 10 within the first 10 laps then still everything to play for.

    Let's not forget there has been 2 safety cars for 2 incidents already in the previous sessions so SC is quite likely.

    On Friday, Kimi showed the best race pace so with Vettel out f position Kimi can really take the race to the Mercs and hopefully mix it up with them. Seb will also have brand new tyres for the race

    Keep the optimism guys

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    What do you guys think:
    if Seb would get a good start and he would be behind Felipe after a few laps, than they both need to clear the field, but they will loose a lot of time in doing so, the first 6 guys are getting a big gap.
    But what if we deside to do an early pit stop, than we will have free air do to our own lap times, which are probably faster than most others, so we are then perhaps 30-40s behinds te front runners but at least we can do our own pace than we catch up the pack again and we start to do our overtaking there, in the hope that some need to pit already. If we again can't pass them fast enoug, we pit again, get clean air do our own pace and go till the end?

    I just think that we have very good pace, but it won't be easy to overtake, because it will all hapen on the straight, but if there's a pack everyone has DRS so.. and if it doesn't work out we're stuck for another lap.. SO I think the best thing is just do try and to our own race and see where we end up..

    What do you guys think?
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    Ferrari had one of the highest(if not highest) top speeds over the back straight and over the start finish line. Hopefully we will be doing all the overtaking

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    Mercedes uncertain on extent of Ferrari threat

    “I'm a bit surprised, because on Friday it looked like a massive step ahead,” said Wolff of Ferrari's qualifying performance yesterday.

    “The pace was impressive, and what we've seen on the GPS data was impressive. Somehow it didn't materialise today.

    "We haven't seen Sebastian properly competing, so it's maybe too early to say it didn't really work out. We need to wait for tomorrow, I guess."

    http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/me...ferrari-threat

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    If it's a two-stop race for the majority of the front runners Seb may make the first pitstop earlier and then do a longish second stint to maximize the pace or even can try to do one-stop race. If it's a one-stop race I'm afraid it will be a tough one.

    One thing that I think makes the races of this season are processional is that there's very little scope for any strategic plays. The performance gaps between primes and options have been too big, every team tries to spend as little time as possible on primes. Therefore, almost always there have been a slam dunk strategy that all but few followed together. Durable tyres (or tyre choices) mean a couple one-stop races already and probably one more here out of seven races. Malaysia may be the only exception. Things got a bit hazier there, not by much and only because of extreme weather conditions + early safety car.

    Quote Originally Posted by mizf1 View Post
    Ferrari had one of the highest(if not highest) top speeds over the back straight and over the start finish line. Hopefully we will be doing all the overtaking
    Qualifying speed trap

    1 R. GROSJEAN 340.5
    2 V. BOTTAS 337.7
    3 P. MALDONADO 337.2
    4 N. HULKENBERG 336.8
    5 L. HAMILTON 336.6
    6 S. PEREZ 336.4
    7 N. ROSBERG 335.8
    8 K. RAIKKONEN 335.4
    9 M. VERSTAPPEN 334.2
    10 M. ERICSSON 333.9

    Kimi needs a good start.
    Last edited by Ilsan; 7th June 2015 at 12:22.

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    We should definitly not go for a one stop strategy, we should stay flexible and anticipate on what comes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    Fight for championship?!?!?!? C'mon be realistic!!!!!
    we have 19 races this year and this is 7th, Seb is 28 points behind Lewis, everything is possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristof_F40 View Post
    We should definitly not go for a one stop strategy, we should stay flexible and anticipate on what comes..
    My hope is that Ferrari can run their engine at higher power during race trim whilst mercs cannot !

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimiBot View Post
    we have 19 races this year and this is 7th, Seb is 28 points behind Lewis, everything is possible
    let us be realistic, it is not possible......... in theory it is, but in real life its not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilsan View Post
    If it's a two-stop race for the majority of the front runners Seb may make the first pitstop earlier and then do a longish second stint to maximize the pace or even can try to do one-stop race. If it's a one-stop race I'm afraid it will be a tough one.

    One thing that I think makes the races of this season are processional is that there's very little scope for any strategic plays. The performance gaps between primes and options have been too big, every team tries to spend as little time as possible on primes. Therefore, almost always there have been a slam dunk strategy that all but few followed together. Durable tyres (or tyre choices) mean a couple one-stop races already and probably one more here out of seven races. Malaysia may be the only exception. Things got a bit hazier there, not by much and only because of extreme weather conditions + early safety car.



    Qualifying speed trap

    1 R. GROSJEAN 340.5
    2 V. BOTTAS 337.7
    3 P. MALDONADO 337.2
    4 N. HULKENBERG 336.8
    5 L. HAMILTON 336.6
    6 S. PEREZ 336.4
    7 N. ROSBERG 335.8
    8 K. RAIKKONEN 335.4
    9 M. VERSTAPPEN 334.2
    10 M. ERICSSON 333.9

    Kimi needs a good start.
    Raikkonen had more wing then in FP1/2 apparently because Ferrari was happy with the power they had. Other cars (Lotus, Williams) were always slippier through the air so this is nothing new. Sector max speed say that Ferraris engine is there, although we are still down on power maybe 15hp. I reckon Seb couls qualified even better though

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    Quote Originally Posted by zike View Post
    let us be realistic, it is not possible......... in theory it is, but in real life its not
    True...but deep within all of us we have the slightest hope of winning the title this year, although we don't show it. That includes you as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondilad View Post
    True...but deep within all of us we have the slightest hope of winning the title this year, although we don't show it. That includes you as well
    This is F1, nithing is guaranteed.

    All i'm saying is Vettel is in a better position then Kimi was in 2007 with 2 races left..

    Kimi was 17/18 points behind with 2 races left with a maximum of 20 available in old money. I don't need to tell anyone what happened there....

    Therefore I have been watching F1 too long to say something is guaranteed, Hamilton is likely to win this years title but if Vettel can keep in touch with him then anything can happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondilad View Post
    True...but deep within all of us we have the slightest hope of winning the title this year, although we don't show it. That includes you as well
    Touche

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    Quote Originally Posted by zike View Post
    let us be realistic, it is not possible......... in theory it is, but in real life its not
    maybe not, but in real life has happened strange things, like when Alonso was leading by 50 points in june-august one year, and still lost title, so, everything is possible

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    Sebastian Vettel came into the weekend a genuine victory threat, particularly after Ferrari unveiled engine upgrades in a bid to close the gap to Mercedes. So while qualifying 16th - and receiving a subsequent five-place grid drop - were disastrous, Vettel does at least have a useful weapon to aid his fightback: straight-line speed.

    Ferrari’s advantage in this department was underlined on Friday, when Vettel and team mate Kimi Raikkonen locked out first and second in all three speed traps. Across the line, the SF15-T was a full 6km/h faster than the next best, and a massive 19km/h quicker than the slowest car.

    On the long straights of Montreal, that could prove to be a gamechanger in the race as Vettel works his way up the order. Victory might no longer be possible - the history books will tell you that no driver has triumphed from lower than 10th on the grid here - but Vettel’s hopes of points are far from finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zike View Post
    let us be realistic, it is not possible......... in theory it is, but in real life its not


    E=MxC2

    Is it proven in practice...?

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    With Verstappen also having to serve a stop and go penalty, and having a lack of straight line speed, I expect him to pit very early, perhaps start on softs, pit early serve the penalty go on SS and go flat out in clean air.. He doesn't make to much chance on the straight does he, so a lot of chance he would be stuck otherwise. Also expect Fernando to do something similar.. We need to look out for this with our strategy with Seb, so we don't get caught in traffic.
    I think we can still do a good race with Seb.

    Ofcourse also with Kimi, I think we can challenge Mercs, but problem is that if we don't get between them Lewis can manage the race.. Also there is the threat from behind with undercut etc. Merc is going to use this in our disadvantage I think..
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post


    E=MxC2

    Is it proven in practice...?


    Yes it is, in Trinity test, than in Hiroshima, than they tried somthing new in Nagasaki

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    If you look at the video above, what really annoys me is that kimi lost half of the time only in the last sector, he was 0.3 down in the first two . ... mercs are still in a league if their own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jax View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWqZ_2bMdpo

    If you look at the video above, what really annoys me is that kimi lost half of the time only in the last sector, he was 0.3 down in the first two . ... mercs are still in a league if their own
    Merc are very good trough the chicane.. For sure they are in a league of there own, what is important is that we have a balanced car and seem to be able to improve.
    I mean, don't you guys remember the last 5 years, Always upgrades, but they never worked. The only good thing we did was the B-spec F2012.. Now we seem to be able to improve, and the updates seem to do what the team expected, I like that
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    Whats the weather like ?

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