Wishful changes in the Formula

[TigerKing]

What changes would you like to see by 2017 (or 2020) in the current formula?
Me personally:
Softer tyres yet slightly more durable
Qualifying tyres
more downforce produced by the underside of the car not the wings (produces downforce without the dirty air to encourage following cars in front through corners).
No fuel restrictions (these V6 turbos can produce a lot of power if fuel flow restrictions were lifted)
Better allocations of funds for the end of the year (more money for the smaller teams).

What would you like to see coming this next Strategy Group meeting?

[Giallo 550]

* Teams can use whatever tires they want whenever they want
* In-season testing

[stefa]

Anything that will make F1 spectacular as it was before introduction of all ERS, KERS, and other RS.....

[Hornet]

I agree that they should shift a majority of the downforce to the underside of the car, and rely lesser on front wing. They could just reduce the front wing to controlling airflow direction only, while most of the downforce is generated by shaped floor and large diffuser.

Not only will this improve on the problem of following another car closely, it will allow us to remove DRS which at times have been too effective at making overtaking easy.

[ragfone]

Personally... ALL street circuits should be banned and circuits introduced that allow for overtaking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stormsearcher]

No.1- Double the In-season testing.
No. 2- No restrictions on fuel usage. Actually bring back refueling in races.

[Nova]

Im really unhappy with the way F1 has been going.
It all appears to be nothing more than a large mercedes commercial.

Unlimited testing.

Unlimited fuel requirements. If your going to run hybrids, let them use the fuel they need to be competitive.

Now, I read Autosport where Michelin has stated that they would return to F1 IF there were a change in rules. They want
larger tires, and a competitive environment. No making racing exciting by supplying tires that cant do 5 laps
without losing performance. Its a good way to go and Im all in for doing it Michelins way. The sooner Pirelli
leaves the sport, the better the sport will be.

Aero changes and a loosening up of the rules to allow race car design freedom.

There have been some great articles in Road & Track and Automobile mags recently about how unhappy
fans of F1 are with the current rules. 1 article recently stated how theres more freedom in gokart racing than
there is in F1. Also articles about how the WEC Lemans series is gaining popularity at an alarming rate, while
F1 viewers and attendance is shrinking.

I really feel that F1 is on a course of self destruction and I do hope that some common racing sense prevails.
soon to save it.

[ragfone]

Im really unhappy with the way F1 has been going.
It all appears to be nothing more than a large mercedes commercial.

Unlimited testing.

Unlimited fuel requirements. If your going to run hybrids, let them use the fuel they need to be competitive.

Now, I read Autosport where Michelin has stated that they would return to F1 IF there were a change in rules. They want
larger tires, and a competitive environment. No making racing exciting by supplying tires that cant do 5 laps
without losing performance. Its a good way to go and Im all in for doing it Michelins way. The sooner Pirelli
leaves the sport, the better the sport will be.

Aero changes and a loosening up of the rules to allow race car design freedom.

There have been some great articles in Road & Track and Automobile mags recently about how unhappy
fans of F1 are with the current rules. 1 article recently stated how theres more freedom in gokart racing than
there is in F1. Also articles about how the WEC Lemans series is gaining popularity at an alarming rate, while
F1 viewers and attendance is shrinking.

I really feel that F1 is on a course of self destruction and I do hope that some common racing sense prevails.
soon to save it.

I hear the complaint, but in Pirelli's defense they can ONLY supply tyres within the dictates of the FIA...
Pirelli could easily make tyres that last and grip wonderfully, but their mandate is set!!!
I hate seeing people lambasting Pirelli when they are only following the rules....

[Winter]

First of all everything is too controlled and restricted these days. There should be more room for creativity in all areas.
There would be so much I'd like to change, but because F1 is only going forwards I list only changes that are even slightly possible.

- All tire compounds should be available in every race and let the teams decide what to use.( I'd still keep the 2 different comp rule)
More tire manufacturers, absolutely!

- Only limit concerning fuel usage should be max fuel load limit and that should be more than 100kg. No fuel flow limit.
The engine rev- limit should be erased, as well as every limit that concerns turbo. (More sounds and power)

- I would keep DRS, but reduce the effect to half what it is now.

- More testing. A testing day after every GP for example. Or bigger teams could have an option to pay $$ to smaller teams for extra testing days.

- There should also be a rule that bans rule changes in the middle of the season!

[Tony]

The one change I would propose is to remove the two compound rule... I think that rule was initiated to improve passing before DRS existed... now that DRS exists, there's no need to artificially spice up the show with different tyre strategies...

Let the teams choose whatever tyre they want and if they want to use a different compound during the race, no problem... just don't force them to do it...

[Rob]

Open up the tyre tender, have 2 or 3 tyre companies in the sport. But try to keep costs down. Make the tyres last and let the driver do what they want, and what we fans want to see, race and push every lap. See them on the limit.

Give the engineer more freedom in designs, let them bit more innovative. Go back maybe, have front like 2000-2001 designs, which would maybe allow cars to follow and slipstream. Get rid of DRS, taking an art away from the drivers. Even the commentators now get excited about an overtake on a straight. WOW, *took guts and balls to pull that one off*


Maybe bring back refuelling.

Dont allow half of the sports revenues out of the sport. Give more to the lower teams, then that may help for teams with low cash flows to go testing mid season more, and develope the cars. The whole finance flow in F1 got to change.

[Nova]

I hear the complaint, but in Pirelli's defense they can ONLY supply tyres within the dictates of the FIA...
Pirelli could easily make tyres that last and grip wonderfully, but their mandate is set!!!
I hate seeing people lambasting Pirelli when they are only following the rules....

I dont believe that Pirelli can make a real F1 racing tire.
And are those mandates still in place?

[rochas]

I think tyre wars are bad for F1. As soon as one company is superior it mask all other variable component that makes an F1 winning team (aero, engine and even driver talent). Also, it will bring back another area which will need to be tightly regulated. It will cause an "arms race" to the point were tyres wont be safe (as we saw in Indianapolis 2005). Finally, there's seem to be a cycle where a new tyre company steps in, usually to a lower/mid class team. Then, gets better and steps to a dominant team and at the end all the major team switch to it and F1 is left with one tyre for all.

[Dino]

For a start i would like the FIA to install an additional ECU on all the cars for the most important part of the weekends=Qualifying.
I feel the rules at this very important part of the race are not strict enough and Mercedes has an advantage on everybody including the teams it supplies the engines to.
Not sure about this,but is the FIA fuel flow meter that monitors fuel-flow rate, which is limited to 100kg/h, being scrutinised after Qualifying???
It is very easy to change to a Qualifying map come Saturday afternoon,but that must require additional fuel!!
+The difference in perfomance to the other Mercedes engined Teams is bigger on Saturdays.

Very easy to turn up the boost for one lap,if you have some fuel to spare!

[TigerKing]

I dont believe that Pirelli can make a real F1 racing tire.

Pirelli has actually been in F1 for a very long time and they can definitely make competitive tyres. It is the CVC that mandates Pirelli to make rapid degrading tyres which is foolish because drivers should be able to "push like a hell" with either compounds without worries of making another pit stop.

[TigerKing]

Personally... ALL street circuits should be banned and circuits introduced that allow for overtaking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont forget, a lot of Formula One is the glamour as much as the racing! Also, Singapore, Gilles Villeneuve and Albert Park are fun races (Marina Bay looking spectacular under the lights). Also, street circuits have been always historically important. Personally, I would love to see Monaco erased and replaced with Imola but it would hurt the sport financially because casual watchers and people who don't know F1 wont recognize the series without the crown jewel.

[JasonNorin]

In season testing and Refueling in races..

[Nova]

Pirelli has actually been in F1 for a very long time and they can definitely make competitive tyres. It is the CVC that mandates Pirelli to make rapid degrading tyres which is foolish because drivers should be able to "push like a hell" with either compounds without worries of making another pit stop.

I know about Pirelli..Doesnt change my opinion, but thanks anyway.

[Nova]

The one change I would propose is to remove the two compound rule... I think that rule was initiated to improve passing before DRS existed... now that DRS exists, there's no need to artificially spice up the show with different tyre strategies...

Let the teams choose whatever tyre they want and if they want to use a different compound during the race, no problem... just don't force them to do it...

I agree with this..

[Nova]

Open up the tyre tender, have 2 or 3 tyre companies in the sport. But try to keep costs down. Make the tyres last and let the driver do what they want, and what we fans want to see, race and push every lap. See them on the limit.

Give the engineer more freedom in designs, let them bit more innovative. Go back maybe, have front like 2000-2001 designs, which would maybe allow cars to follow and slipstream. Get rid of DRS, taking an art away from the drivers. Even the commentators now get excited about an overtake on a straight. WOW, *took guts and balls to pull that one off*


Maybe bring back refuell

Dont allow half of the sports revenues out of the sport. Give more to the lower teams, then that may help for teams with low cash flows to go testing mid season more, and develope the cars. The whole finance flow in F1 got to change.

Agree..Why is it that so many fans want these things, yet the fia continually ignores?

[Hornet]

Agree..Why is it that so many fans want these things, yet the fia continually ignores?

From my understanding, unless it concerns safety, the FIA cannot change the technical regulations on their own without the team's consent. They have technical group meetings to discuss these technical changes and the teams need to agree to any changes. Often we hear suggestions of this and that changes in the media, then we don't hear anything about them for a long time, and many of them just disappear as they are rejected during these meetings. If they are agreed upon, then we'll hear them somewhere mid to near end of the season as they reach the deadline to pass any regulation changes for next year.

One common reason for rejecting huge changes is cost. Many teams tend to resist huge technical changes for cost reasons as hey will have to spend more in development. Same goes for more testing time. It's difficult to get everyone's approval as the smaller teams will reject them for cost reasons.

[TigerKing]

I've heard that on Thursday's Strategy group meeting, Todt and Bernie are gonna join their votes and out vote the teams which is good and bad.
Good because it means more downforce, more powerful/louder engines and tyre freedom.
Bad news in that some of Bernie's crazy ideas may resurface but I think it's worth the risk for now. Bernie has crazy ideas at times but at least he doesn't want to see his beloved sport crash and burn because the teams are either too greedy or cheap.

[fmatiasii]

I just want one thing - the return of V8's.

[ManFromMilan]

I just want one thing - the return of V8's.

Don't you mean V12's?????

[samboozik]

- Revert to the pre 2009 spec cars (they used to look way better than they do now)
- SOUND, SOUND and more SOUND

[aroutis]

In season testing and use whatever facility you want.
No DRS, enough with that already. Change aero design and increase mechanical grip.
The hell with the flow of the fuel.
Tyre war; however, if you have 2 teams, there will have to be balance between them (ie. like engine suppliers there should be a ratio between the tyre suppliers, so the tyre development can be made on a 'sort of' equal basis).

[Fireblade]

1) Better tires. These fragile Pirelli's are ridiculous and are a big part of the reason the racing is poor at present.. (I realize that Pirelli are just giving the FIA what they asked for)

2) End all the stupid restrictions on engine development. There's already a power limit and a fuel flow limit, there's no reason to place further restrictions on the engine makers. Without those silly "token" restrictions then Ferrari, Renault and Honda could more quickly close the gap to Mercedes.

3) Relax the ban on testing. That need not mean unlimited testing as used to happen, but F1 should allow more test days each season.

[FranksterGM]

V8, V10 or V12 engines.... no ricey turbos.
Unlimited testing.
No fuel limits.

[The Architect]

Roll back technical regs 10 years.

[Nand0Nand0]

For me its really quite simple. Fans will flock back when F1 delivers what fans have always wanted - racing. Put more racing on the track and give people more points of contact with the teams. Anything that serves that purpose will be a beneficial change.

Fans don't care about budget caps, mountains of rules and regulations or gimmicks like DRS. The vast majority don't even care about how efficient an engine is or how much or at what rate it burned it's fuel.

So put the cars on the tracks as often as possible (no test limits). Throw away all the rules and come up with super simple regulations that provide simple easy to understand constraints - ie you have this much fuel to complete a race, now go design cars and engines as you wish. Or, you have a V6 twin turbo with a restricted displacement. Just keep in mind that less is always better when it comes to rules. And less is the key for low budget teams to be able to compete because with less rules engineers can be creative and creativity isn't a factor of budget/expense.