Singapore GP Race thread 2015

[Stormsearcher]

Didnt i say SV could win this? huh? huh?

But i expected LH to push him hard. It was strange how the Merc was looking like a midfield car, and suddenly our car (in SVs hands) was just flying. Have we bridged the gap? Or is this just circuit specific?
In anycase, i dont think the brat can challenge for the WDC, a bit too late for that. But he could make LH sweat a bit seeing as how NR is incapable of matching his speed.

[Stormsearcher]

Riccardo will poison the atmosphere in the team. He's playing games. He is a decent driver and nothing more although ge beat Seb last year it means nothing. Seb had a disastrous year and could not get the car to act like he wanted, that happens to everyone.

Let Ricciardo join Ferrari when he has 4 championships in other teams. Let's face it. The guy has won 3 races in F1.

Even Rosberg has won more! Dan would pollute our team.

I think Dan will unsettle SV. And he is more than an average driver. He will definitely give SV a run for his money. More than KR will do anyways.
I would love to see Dan replace KR.

[Stormsearcher]

I was thinking the exact same thing. If those 18 points wind up mattering, I'll be blaming Pirelli for the lost championship.

ive been blaming pirelli from day one. Lousy tyres.

[Kristof_F40]

Pos Driver Points
1 Lewis Hamilton 252
2 Nico Rosberg 211
3 Sebastian Vettel 203
4 Kimi Räikkönen 107
5 Valtteri Bottas 101

Damn that Pirelli blow out at SPA. With those 18 points SV would have been now solid second in CWC with just 31 points deficit to LH.....

Don't forget the fact that HAM wasn't disqualified at Monza, which would man he has 25 points les and Seb 7 points more...
Combine this with the 15 points from p3 in Spa..

[roddick_andy]

Any idea what will be the tyre allocation for this weekend's Japanese GP?

[fronaldo]

Any idea what will be the tyre allocation for this weekend's Japanese GP?

Medium and hard

[roddick_andy]

Medium and hard

Thanks Mate

[zamlatuljko]

boring race in terms of f1 standard.

Vettel in Singapore is like Schumi in France in league above everything. Who knows maybe Vettel score 7-8 wins here.

Great pace from reds, cant wait Japan. Maybe we can keep this form and chill end finale.

Daniel drove nice race and little bit danger from him.


Ham suffer dnf, first this season, maybe we can make him nervous, after Japan we will know.

Nice driving from Max, but not fair play to Sainz, he shoould return position.

third victory, if we score fourth maurizzio is running naked!

[From Treviso]

Riccardo will poison the atmosphere in the team. He's playing games. He is a decent driver and nothing more although ge beat Seb last year it means nothing. Seb had a disastrous year and could not get the car to act like he wanted, that happens to everyone.

Let Ricciardo join Ferrari when he has 4 championships in other teams. Let's face it. The guy has won 3 races in F1.

Even Rosberg has won more! Dan would pollute our team.

I think that's a bit unfair about Dan as most believe he's a decent person and sportsman, and he does not play mind-games like Alonso and the like. We all thought that Vettel would pollute our team as well - it's such a nice moment when proven wrong for all the right reasons :)

[erinha]

Why is everyone including Ted Kravitz talking about running naked? And Ted said "with only shoes". I thought it was running with clothes without the shoes? I don't think Arrivabene is a mental guy who would be running around in Maranello buck naked with his shoes?

[stefa]

Why is everyone including Ted Kravitz talking about running naked? And Ted said "with only shoes". I thought it was running with clothes without the shoes? I don't think Arrivabene is a mental guy who would be running around in Maranello buck naked with his shoes?

As I remember he said BARE FOOT!

[Dino]

As I remember he said BARE FOOT!

February 20, 2015‘I have never believed in such a thing as a winter championship: we have our feet on the ground. Winning two races could be considered a success, three would be perfect and if we win four, I will run barefoot on the hills of Maranello.’

[erinha]

He says "on the hills of Maranello", not "to the hills of Maranello". He can just climb, then remove his shoes, and run around
Clever guy. Good wording.

[tifosi1993]

Riccardo will poison the atmosphere in the team.

No.

He's playing games.

Every top F1 driver play games with each other. Only naive people think otherwise.

He is a decent driver and nothing more although ge beat Seb last year it means nothing.

He beat Seb fair and square. And Seb is not unbeatable, so stop making excuses.

Seb had a disastrous year and could not get the car to act like he wanted, that happens to everyone.

Again, stop making excuses.

Let Ricciardo join Ferrari when he has 4 championships in other teams.

Give him a car and i am sure he'd deliver. Also you don't need 4 or 5 titles to join Ferrari. When Raikkonen and Massa joined Ferrari, both of them had zero title.
When Schumacher & Alonso joined they had 2, so your logic is flawed.

Let's face it. The guy has won 3 races in F1.

You are right, he only won 3 races. But he manged to win those 3 races when his quadruple world champion team-mate managed to win none.

Even Rosberg has won more! Dan would pollute our team.

Dan won't pollute anything. Him and Vettel together will be one of the most fastest and exciting driver pairing in F1.
And with these two on-board, Ferrari will benefit massively.

[f412]

things are not as black and white as it seems... confidence and state of mind has lots to do with how you perform...seb had huge pressure..as his reputation was at stake being a four time world champion..and he had everything to lose if it all came down... he not only had the pressure of being outperformed by his teammate but also the pressure of losing his title...which is quite huge... i would have to stay from the inside he felt like a cornered cat... and his desperation made him to drive the car in an unusual manner and in an agressive way.. as we have seen in most races in 2014,even if he would be ahead of ricciardo during the starts and later he would burn out his tyres and ricc would just breeze past him in the later stages of race... compared to seb ricc has nothing to lose..he could keep his calm..and drive the way he is used to without any pressure.That being said, i think ricciardo is a great driver.But you guys should see how vettel performed in torro rosso when he began...his accomplishments are quite great and it was not just because of his car. RED bull was always within reach for all other teams in qualifying, whenever RB car was ahead in qualifying it was by .2-.3 seconds average.never 1 to 2 seconds they way merc had.

[Rishu]

things are not as black and white as it seems... confidence and state of mind has lots to do with how you perform...seb had huge pressure..as his reputation was at stake being a four time world champion..and he had everything to lose if it all came down... he not only had the pressure of being outperformed by his teammate but also the pressure of losing his title...which is quite huge... i would have to stay from the inside he felt like a cornered cat... and his desperation made him to drive the car in an unusual manner and in an agressive way.. as we have seen in most races in 2014,even if he would be ahead of ricciardo during the starts and later he would burn out his tyres and ricc would just breeze past him in the later stages of race... compared to seb ricc has nothing to lose..he could keep his calm..and drive the way he is used to without any pressure.That being said, i think ricciardo is a great driver.But you guys should see how vettel performed in torro rosso when he began...his accomplishments are quite great and it was not just because of his car. RED bull was always within reach for all other teams in qualifying, whenever RB car was ahead in qualifying it was by .2-.3 seconds average.never 1 to 2 seconds they way merc had.

Personally I think pressure on Ricciardo would have been more than Vettel. Promoted to the main team, pitted against reigning quadruple champion, wants to show he belongs in the world champion team and loads of pressure of being blown away by at that time called 'invincible Seb'. Please give credit where due. He beat him fair & square. Vettel has shown spine by accepting this.

Have you forgotten how quick RedBull was in their domination? 2,3 tenths? I remember both Vettel & Webber would agree not to go out on second run in Q3, that's how far they were ahead of the pack.

[f412]

Personally I think pressure on Ricciardo would have been more than Vettel. Promoted to the main team, pitted against reigning quadruple champion, wants to show he belongs in the world champion team and loads of pressure of being blown away by at that time called 'invincible Seb'. Please give credit where due. He beat him fair & square. Vettel has shown spine by accepting this.

Have you forgotten how quick RedBull was in their domination? 2,3 tenths? I remember both Vettel & Webber would agree not to go out on second run in Q3, that's how far they were ahead of the pack.

if you take 2010 champion ship title was won by four points and how is that a dominance? when alonso and hamilton both from different teams had a shot for title coming into the last race.compare that to 2014 nobody except nico or lewis had a chance because of the car dominance,now that is what i call dominance.

and not to mention 2012 was not all any RB dominated year.. out of 20, seb had just 6 poles.. hamy had 7..alonso 2.. nico 1 button 1 maldonado 1 mark 2.
other teams had a shot too... the championship was won by just 3 points.


2013 out of 19 races seb had 9 poles...lewis 5 nico 3 and webber 2.... compare that to 2014?? Merc had all poles except one because they made a mistake and williams somehow leapfrogged them..didnt matter though cause merc won the race anyway...


Mercs dominance in 2014-2015 is similar to williams in 1992 and 1993.

[Rishu]

if you take 2010 champion ship title was won by four points and how is that a dominance? when alonso and hamilton both from different teams had a shot for title coming into the last race.compare that to 2014 nobody except nico or lewis had a chance because of the car dominance,now that is what i call dominance.

and not to mention 2012 was not all any RB dominated year.. out of 20, seb had just 6 poles.. hamy had 7..alonso 2.. nico 1 button 1 maldonado 1 mark
other teams had a shot too... the championship was won by just 3 points.


2013 out of 19 races seb had 9 poles...lewis 5 nico 3 and webber 2.... compare that to 2014?? Merc had all poles except one because they made a mistake and williams somehow leapfrogged them..didnt matter though cause merc won the race anyway...


Mercs dominance in 2014-2015 is similar to williams in 1992 and 1993.

You are changing your statement. First you said RB were just 2-3 tenths ahead, now you are comparing championship points. Still, any naive would know RB was dominant in 2010, 2011, 2012 (McLaren was fastest but not reliable) & 2013 (especially second half). Alonso was voted best
driver on two of these occasions despite not winning title which shows that perhaps he drove better in lesser cars. I agree Mercedes are extremely dominant but even Vettel enjoyed his dominance in those RB train on rails. My points stands, Daniel did beat him, deserves some credit

[f412]

Personally I think pressure on Ricciardo would have been more than Vettel. Promoted to the main team, pitted against reigning quadruple champion, wants to show he belongs in the world champion team and loads of pressure of being blown away by at that time called 'invincible Seb'. Please give credit where due. He beat him fair & square. Vettel has shown spine by accepting this.

Have you forgotten how quick RedBull was in their domination? 2,3 tenths? I remember both Vettel & Webber would agree not to go out on second run in Q3, that's how far they were ahead of the pack.

[QUOTE=Rishu;898499]Personally I think pressure on Ricciardo would have been more than Vettel. Promoted to the main team, pitted against reigning quadruple champion, wants to show he belongs in the world champion team and loads of pressure of being blown away by at that time called 'invincible Seb'. Please give credit where due. He beat him fair & square. Vettel has shown spine by accepting this.


and as for ricciardo i did mention he was a great driver(pleasse read the post again).nerver have i tried to take away his credit and you said and i quote "Please give credit where due"... and speaking for ricciardo given his situation in 2014, had the opposite happened and seb outperformed him...everyone would have said "not bad for a new comer..he didnt do that badly against the world champ".... i dont think that such an outcome would have put much pressure on ricc...but to be honest the pressure was all on seb... we would have to agree to disagree

[ForzaFerrariGo!]

[f412]

You are changing your statement. First you said RB were just 2-3 tenths ahead, now you are comparing championship points. Still, any naive would know RB was dominant in 2010, 2011, 2012 (McLaren was fastest but not reliable) & 2013 (especially second half). Alonso was voted best
driver on two of these occasions despite not winning title which shows that perhaps he drove better in lesser cars. I agree Mercedes are extremely dominant but even Vettel enjoyed his dominance in those RB train on rails. My points stands, Daniel did beat him, deserves some credit

my man rishu please do your selves a favor and start checking quali times starting from 2010 you will get what i am saying...

i will start for you...

2010 first race bahrain gp p1 seb 1.54.101 p2 massa 1.54.242 difference 0.141 sec
2010 second race australian gp p1 seb 1.23.919 p3 alonoso 1.24.111 difference 0.192 sec
2010 third race malasia p1 mark webber 1.49.327 p2 nico 1.50.673 p3 vettel 1:50.789
vettel .116 seconds down to nico both were on wet tyres but mark was on inters so he had 1.346 sec advantage on nico.....

and so the differences would average around 2 to 3 tenths maybe even four...

[Fireblade]

Pro's and con's for Ricciardo as a Ferrari driver.

Pro - He does seem like at least a pretty decent driver.
Pro - He's of Italian heritage.

Con - There are plenty of question marks about just how good he actually is. He's won three races in his career and they all involved super-sized portions of luck.
Con - If he comes to Ferrari and gets beaten by Vettel we'll be subjected to intense and never-ending criticism of the "Ferrari are favoring Vettel" sort, just as it was constantly asserted that Red Bull were favoring Vettel during the five years he was soundly beating another Australian driver at Red Bull.

I'm not saying we should definitely rule him out but there are other drivers who are equally talented and who don't come with his drawbacks.

[Stormy]

but there are other drivers who are equally talented and who don't come with his drawbacks.

No one is better then Ricciardo in my opinion. But yeah, we don't need him. We need someone who can play a second fiddle.

[f412]

You are changing your statement. First you said RB were just 2-3 tenths ahead, now you are comparing championship points. Still, any naive would know RB was dominant in 2010, 2011, 2012 (McLaren was fastest but not reliable) & 2013 (especially second half). Alonso was voted best
driver on two of these occasions despite not winning title which shows that perhaps he drove better in lesser cars. I agree Mercedes are extremely dominant but even Vettel enjoyed his dominance in those RB train on rails. My points stands, Daniel did beat him, deserves some credit

i really didnt want to get in this mess... but i did some basic calculations and averaged 2010 quali times to be around .2995 sec....so .3 seems to be the approximate advantage of RB...and i never mentioned 2011 in any of my post....recheck yourselves.....

[Fireblade]

No one is better then Ricciardo in my opinion.

Wow. At least you seem to acknowledge the possibility that some other drivers just might be equal to him, even if nobody is better than him!

[Stormy]

Wow. At least you seem to acknowledge the possibility that some other drivers just might be equal to him, even if nobody is better than him!

Who is his equal? Hulkenberg?

[TigerKing]

Who is his equal? Hulkenberg?

Not after yesterday's shunt

[Stormy]

Not after yesterday's shunt

Exactly

[Rishu]

RED bull was always within reach for all other teams in qualifying, whenever RB car was ahead in qualifying it was by .2-.3 seconds average.never 1 to 2 seconds they way merc had.

i really didnt want to get in this mess... but i did some basic calculations and averaged 2010 quali times to be around .2995 sec....so .3 seems to be the approximate advantage of RB...and i never mentioned 2011 in any of my post....recheck yourselves.....

Again you are changing statements. Don't bother arguing if you keep twisting things. Over n out

[Kyss4k]

Again you are changing statements. Don't bother arguing if you keep twisting things. Over n out

He is right in both statements though. Yes, we were slower by a bit, but by far not by a margin when we could say Red Bull was dominant. They were dominant in 2011, part of 2012 and 2013 (after the help from Pirelli...). But 2010 was a 4 way fight till the end. I am so looking forward to a season like that one.