Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H Development thread.

**cokata** · 24th January 2016, 10:02

Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
It's interesting that Ericsson has confirmed that 2016 Ferrari PU it's very different from the one of last year

I don't know the source, but there you go.

**jpalmito** · 24th January 2016, 10:06

Very reliable italian blogger christian sponton said that the Ferrari 2016 chassis managed its homologation crash test last week

**PURE PASSION** · 24th January 2016, 11:15

Originally Posted by cokata

Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
It's interesting that Ericsson has confirmed that 2016 Ferrari PU it's very different from the one of last year

I don't know the source, but there you go.

Its allmost certain that the layout of 2016 PU will change!!!The intercooler and the MGU-K will be on the the side of the PU!!!So what he is saying is nothing "new"!Just another source(just more "official")to confirm thise changes!!!!!

**cokata** · 24th January 2016, 11:42

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Its allmost certain that the layout of 2016 PU will change!!!The intercooler and the MGU-K will be on the the side of the PU!!!So what he is saying is nothing "new"!Just another source(just more "official")to confirm thise changes!!!!!

I don't know if i would label moving the MGU-K and the intercooler as "very different", but then again a driver says that, not an engineer.

**Gianlu27** · 24th January 2016, 12:07

Originally Posted by cokata

Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
It's interesting that Ericsson has confirmed that 2016 Ferrari PU it's very different from the one of last year

I don't know the source, but there you go.

It was on an italian website of F1. Ericsson added that "I heard that Ferrari engineers are happy with the numbers of their PU" :)

**F1NAC** · 24th January 2016, 13:41

will see how many of these gossips are true indeed

**PURE PASSION** · 24th January 2016, 13:51

Not for our "weapon",but i heard some rumors that Honda will have about 230hp more in 2016!!!But they calculate the full 160hp of the electric generators that they had the problem in 2015 and plus about 60hp from the ice!!So ti is a bit complicated because its not that they where runing only with the ice last year,so now they will have +160hp from that,its just that they will use it in the whole lap every lap!!!!Hope we will have a significant power improvement with our new pu,so they will not come too close to us!!!!

**NenoX** · 24th January 2016, 15:21

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Not for our "weapon",but i heard some rumors that Honda will have about 230hp more in 2016!!!But they calculate the full 160hp of the electric generators that they had the problem in 2015 and plus about 60hp from the ice!!So ti is a bit complicated because its not that they where runing only with the ice last year,so now they will have +160hp from that,its just that they will use it in the whole lap every lap!!!!Hope we will have a significant power improvement with our new pu,so they will not come too close to us!!!!

I read from grandprix times that their massive step would only bring them close to 2015 ferrari. I can't share the link though, as I only read it via bleacher report.

**PURE PASSION** · 24th January 2016, 17:45

Originally Posted by NenoX

I read from grandprix times that their massive step would only bring them close to 2015 ferrari. I can't share the link though, as I only read it via bleacher report.

There is logic on this and it will be great!!!!!

And with (god forbidden)our big step,hopefully once again they will need binoculars to see us in track!!!!

**PURE PASSION** · 24th January 2016, 19:31

-Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
Some parts of the new Ferrari have already passed FIA crash test |#Ferrari #Autosprint
-Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
Good news: according to Omnicorse, Ferrari passed FIA crash test
-Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
Ferrari tried many times to pass FIA crash test (latest is about 10 days ago): that's because they tried many different types of short nose
-Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
The new Ferrari short nose will be something different: It will be a mix between the nose of Mercedes and the one of Toro Rosso | #Omnicorse

P.S Gianlu hope you dont mind posting your tweets on your behalf??

**PURE PASSION** · 24th January 2016, 19:40

A "rendering" of F2016!!!
You cant see many differences but here it is:
Attachment 6579

**Gianlu27** · 24th January 2016, 21:31

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

P.S Gianlu hope you dont mind posting your tweets on your behalf??

No problem

**Ilsan** · 25th January 2016, 06:34

Originally Posted by cokata

Gianlu D'Alessandro ‏@Gianludale27
It's interesting that Ericsson has confirmed that 2016 Ferrari PU it's very different from the one of last year

I don't know the source, but there you go.

Originally Posted by Gianlu27

It was on an italian website of F1. Ericsson added that "I heard that Ferrari engineers are happy with the numbers of their PU" :)

In English http://en.f1i.com/news/39803-ericsso...c35-delay.html
and the original interview in Swedish http://f1blogg.teknikensvarld.se/201...uppladdningen/

"I don't know anything more than what we've all been reading, but of course I have heard that the Ferrari technicians are very satisfied with the figures seen so far."

He doesn't appear to know anything specific or have access to them yet. I don't know if the 'very different from the one of last year' is from another source. If not, all he said was the new PU won't be fitted on their 2015 chassis and they will have to wait till 2nd testing to test it.

**stefa** · 25th January 2016, 07:33

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

A "rendering" of F2016!!!
You cant see many differences but here it is:
Attachment 6579

Would really like if it is actually this much red, without hideous black!

**subfire91** · 25th January 2016, 08:30

so taking in mind the statements so far can anyone explain to us being less technical on the engineering department as simple as possible the big differences of this years PU comparing to the last years ?

**IulianFerrari** · 25th January 2016, 08:34

Thanks for the updates guys. Every news is welcomed. It is one of the most important parts of the season in my opinion, we have the drivers, now we need the car to be a beast for us to challenge for the WC.

**IulianFerrari** · 25th January 2016, 08:37

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

Not for our "weapon",but i heard some rumors that Honda will have about 230hp more in 2016!!!But they calculate the full 160hp of the electric generators that they had the problem in 2015 and plus about 60hp from the ice!!So ti is a bit complicated because its not that they where runing only with the ice last year,so now they will have +160hp from that,its just that they will use it in the whole lap every lap!!!!Hope we will have a significant power improvement with our new pu,so they will not come too close to us!!!!

Even if the Honda engine can somehow come close to the Ferrari, McLaren's chassis has been average at best in the last years, so we have our 1 sec gap right there + the engine difference. No worries for me there

**Kristof_F40** · 25th January 2016, 09:11

In my opinion, McLaren's chassis wasn't so bad last year. They did a good job going through corners, they just had a MASSIVE power disadvantage

**cokata** · 25th January 2016, 09:57

Originally Posted by Kristof_F40

In my opinion, McLaren's chassis wasn't so bad last year. They did a good job going through corners, they just had a MASSIVE power disadvantage

Their chassis wasn't as good as STR's. Even on circuits where power wasn't a massive factor they were slower than them (and the Renault engine is not that much more powerful than the Honda). I would say chassis wise the ranking was. 1.Red Bull (2nd half of the season), 2.Mercedes, (big gap) 3.Ferrari, 3.STR, 4.Mclaren, (big gap) 5. Williams

**jpalmito** · 25th January 2016, 10:54

Originally Posted by cokata

Their chassis wasn't as good as STR's. Even on circuits where power wasn't a massive factor they were slower than them (and the Renault engine is not that much more powerful than the Honda). I would say chassis wise the ranking was. 1.Red Bull (2nd half of the season), 2.Mercedes, (big gap) 3.Ferrari, 3.STR, 4.Mclaren, (big gap) 5. Williams

Don't believe the red bull propaganda, the mercedes chassis was a lot better.
I don't think either the red bull was on par With the Ferrari.

**cokata** · 25th January 2016, 11:08

Originally Posted by jpalmito

Don't believe the red bull propaganda, the mercedes chassis was a lot better.
I don't think either the red bull was on par With the Ferrari.

There is no propaganda. After silverstone RB had the best chassis. Don't forget that because of their power deficit almost every race they ran visibly less wing than Merc and Ferrari powered cars. And in some technical sectors which don't have much straights in them they posted better times than Merc, so year their chassis is better.

**PURE PASSION** · 25th January 2016, 12:04

Ferrari is fully on schedule with its new Formula 1 car after completing its final crash tests well ahead of the first pre-season test at Barcelona.

Although there is no official confirmation from the team about it securing FIA homologation for the 667 chassis, sources have revealed to Motorsport.com that the car has got the all-clear to run.

Ferrari is pushing hard with both engine and aerodynamics for 2016 in a bid to overhaul Mercedes and lift Sebastian Vettel and Kimi Raikkonen in to championship contention.

There are suggestions that the team is going more extreme with its nose this year, making it as short as the regulations will allow in a bid to maximise its performance.

Such a push for a shorter nose makes it harder to pass the crash tests, as rivals found out last year, but it should in theory deliver aerodynamic benefits.

Last year's SF15-T was one of the few cars to stick with a longer-nose concept, and it is not impossible that the team could elect to vary which concept it uses at different race tracks in 2016 depending on performance characteristics.

Ferrari is set for an online launch of its new F1 car a few days prior to the first Barcelona test that begins on February 22.

Link: http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fe...-tests-669632/

**jragona** · 25th January 2016, 12:12

I can't believe there is still a month to go before the new season kicks off... the excitement is already very high. Plus the teams have such a short time to test before the first race.

**FerrariF60** · 25th January 2016, 12:57

Originally Posted by jragona

I can't believe there is still a month to go before the new season kicks off... the excitement is already very high. Plus the teams have such a short time to test before the first race.

by that you mean before the winter tests start, because it's still almost TWO months before the F1 season starts in OZ Melbourne...

so much waiting time.....grgrrrrr

**Nand0Nand0** · 25th January 2016, 13:48

Originally Posted by Kristof_F40

In my opinion, McLaren's chassis wasn't so bad last year. They did a good job going through corners, they just had a MASSIVE power disadvantage

It's easy to look stable through corners when you're going slow [emoji4]

**FerrariF60** · 25th January 2016, 14:08

Originally Posted by Nand0Nand0

It's easy to look stable through corners when you're going slow [emoji4]

^this...totally agree

**Gianlu27** · 25th January 2016, 14:42

Originally Posted by Ilsan

In English http://en.f1i.com/news/39803-ericsso...c35-delay.html
and the original interview in Swedish http://f1blogg.teknikensvarld.se/201...uppladdningen/

"I don't know anything more than what we've all been reading, but of course I have heard that the Ferrari technicians are very satisfied with the figures seen so far."

He doesn't appear to know anything specific or have access to them yet. I don't know if the 'very different from the one of last year' is from another source. If not, all he said was the new PU won't be fitted on their 2015 chassis and they will have to wait till 2nd testing to test it.

As I said before, it was on an Italian website.. In the interview he said that the layout of the of the 2 PU is very different :)

**Ilsan** · 25th January 2016, 15:36

Originally Posted by Gianlu27

As I said before, it was on an Italian website.. In the interview he said that the layout of the of the 2 PU is very different :)

Oh, I do think it's pretty much a fact by now. Since it wasn't some revelation for most of us, somehow I interpret 'very different' in the sense how he feels or deploys stuffs in the simulator - or that is also what he heard from the engineers. My mistake.