Scuderia Ferrari SF16-H Development thread.

**jpalmito** · 14th March 2016, 10:39

Last year vettel was 1,4 seconds off hamilton after quali.
So i do not want to be disapointed saturday morning.
0,4-0,5 behind will not bad.

**PURE PASSION** · 14th March 2016, 11:26

Originally Posted by jpalmito

Last year vettel was 1,4 seconds off hamilton after quali.
So i do not want to be disapointed saturday morning.
0,4-0,5 behind will not bad.

In the end of last season we supposed to have closed the gap and now the new car it supposed to be a great step forward so as I said before personally I anticipate less then 0,3!!More then that I will be slightly disappointed (near 0,5 and more I will be very)but it depends and if we bring any upgrades.If we don't and we end up with a gap of 0,4-0,5 I still be a bit disappointed but I will "give" us a chance to see what the upgrades will give us when they come.
P.S All this I talk about happiness-satisfaction.whatever happens I still will be the same die hard Ferrari fan and I 'm supporting my team 101%!!!!

**bondilad** · 14th March 2016, 11:59

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

In the end of last season we supposed to have closed the gap and now the new car it supposed to be a great step forward so as I said before personally I anticipate less then 0,3!!More then that I will be slightly disappointed (near 0,5 and more I will be very)but it depends and if we bring any upgrades.If we don't and we end up with a gap of 0,4-0,5 I still be a bit disappointed but I will "give" us a chance to see what the upgrades will give us when they come.
P.S All this I talk about happiness-satisfaction.whatever happens I still will be the same die hard Ferrari fan and I 'm supporting my team 101%!!!!

For me, if the gap was 0.2-0.4 I would be thrilled. I'm also keen to find out how kimi performs against seb in qualy. If they are closely matched we can create a lot of problems for the mercs.

**PURE PASSION** · 14th March 2016, 13:22

It's GP week !!!!

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**FerrariF60** · 14th March 2016, 13:39

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

It's GP week !!!!

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finally, the LONG, LONG winter wait is OVEEEEERRRRR....
yey, now Ferrari let's get 'er done and put some pressure of those Mercs...they've had it WAY too easy for the past couple of years...

**stefa** · 14th March 2016, 14:03

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

It's GP week !!!!

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At last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**PURE PASSION** · 14th March 2016, 14:51

Mercedes is getting specific amid its claims Ferrari has definitely closed the gap over the winter.

Silver-clad figures have been playing up Ferrari's chances of mounting a challenge this year, and now team chairman Niki Lauda is even willing to put a figure on it.

"It isn't Mercedes' fault if we've been faster the last two seasons," the F1 legend told Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport.

"Our goal is to continue that but I think the gap has been reduced. Last season we had a 0.6 second advantage over Ferrari but they are closer this season. Our gap may come down to 0.2 so anything can happen," Lauda added.

Toto Wolff, the Mercedes team boss, agrees.

"Ferrari has definitely made a leap," he told the Austrian broadcaster ORF.

"Already from 2014 to 2015 they developed really well, and now they have continued that.

"If we have a head-start, it is not like it was last year -- we are talking about two, three tenths. Maybe just one," said Wolff.

Wolff was also quoted by Germany's Auto Motor und Sport: "Ferrari looks very good. From testing we saw some really interesting laps from them that show they are on the pace."

And driver Nico Rosberg said: "Ferrari has really improved, and I believe they will even bring an upgrade to Melbourne. We will have a real fight with them."

Asked by the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag how many wins he is expecting the Maranello team to capture in 2016, Rosberg answered: "Lots. They are strong. Really strong."

We have seen this statements before ,but i dont remember the last one of Ros.

**SashAlex** · 14th March 2016, 15:46

Oh boy I hope with all my heart that we'll be closely matched with the Mercedes, even if a bit behind. One thing from past experience is still though causing me some preocupation, as we've had in the past promising pre-seasons followed by dissapointments in Australia.

I pray to God this time around things will finally be different with a new team with JA and others to put Ferrari in the prime position. Forza Ferrari! This week is gonna take long till friday. Got tired of reviewing the onboard footages from last year already.

**Rallyrob** · 14th March 2016, 16:00

Im not so sure we are the ones that are two or three tenths behind. The numbers actually show us ahead if all other things are equal. I truly expect Mercedes to be chasing Ferrari this year.

**darkchild** · 14th March 2016, 17:57

The more these guys from Merc talk, the further I thibk we are behind them.

**vetalo** · 14th March 2016, 18:11

Originally Posted by darkchild

The more these guys from Merc talk, the further I thibk we are behind them.

Whatever will be will be, what I know is that Ferrari will more than 3 races this year and Merc knows this - That this time around we would perform well on most tracks unlike last year. I also know that Ferrari delibrately run a body work with little upgrade and that is the Conundrum Merc is facing and reason for them talikng more about Ferrari than minding their own business.

**wisepie** · 14th March 2016, 19:03

I respect what the team has apparently achieved with the SF16-H and hope to God it gives us the opportunity to become serious challengers for the WDC/WCC, but I am a little concerned about reliability and how the new quali sessions will pan out. But I am 101% supportive and optimistic.

**Rallyrob** · 14th March 2016, 20:06

Originally Posted by darkchild

The more these guys from Merc talk, the further I thibk we are behind them.

The more they talk and Ferrari remains quiet tells me those Mercedes guys are scared.

**gvera** · 14th March 2016, 20:23

Are there any news regarding the Melbourne package? Any kind of updates?

**PURE PASSION** · 14th March 2016, 20:58

Originally Posted by gvera

Are there any news regarding the Melbourne package? Any kind of updates?

Ι haven't heard anything.Everybody is talking about it except from the team.

**SashAlex** · 14th March 2016, 22:43

We might see the new front and back wings with some minor aero updates here and there. Mostly sure the nose stays the same, even for a while, and no S-Duct.

This time it has to be something. We all understood what was the test program. But here it's the real deal and there has to be some updates.

Reading that the team is confident with the windtunnel data and the there is an inner low-profile confidence, it seems logic we didn't see them in Barcelona, where the car as a base package seemed fast. That can give us also a bit of a confident hope that with the aero updates to the car, we'll be even quicker.

**F1NAC** · 14th March 2016, 22:57

Originally Posted by SashAlex

We might see the new front and back wings with some minor aero updates here and there. Mostly sure the nose stays the same, even for a while, and no S-Duct.

This time it has to be something. We all understood what was the test program. But here it's the real deal and there has to be some updates.

Reading that the team is confident with the windtunnel data and the there is an inner low-profile confidence, it seems logic we didn't see them in Barcelona, where the car as a base package seemed fast. That can give us also a bit of a confident hope that with the aero updates to the car, we'll be even quicker.

If there is no new nose then there isn't new FW

**SashAlex** · 14th March 2016, 23:16

Why so? I mean, we could see a different FW to that of Barcelona tests, while the nose stays the same.

**vetalo** · 14th March 2016, 23:59

What I can't understand is why is Ferrari struggling to pass crash test for the short nose design and Merc is not face the same issue. I think Ferrari nose is a bit bulky

**SashAlex** · 15th March 2016, 00:33

Originally Posted by vetalo

What I can't understand is why is Ferrari struggling to pass crash test for the short nose design and Merc is not face the same issue. I think Ferrari nose is a bit bulky

Yeah, I find it strange too. Unless the nose Ferrari failed to pass the test was even more extreme than the Mercedes have, which is hard to believe.

Torro Rosso have a pretty advanced nose and passed the tests, while Ferrari with all the resources didn't. Well, money isn't everything in F1.

**darkchild** · 15th March 2016, 01:41

Nose structure and front suspension is very different between teams, so it means very little that Merc passed crash test with theirs. Renault is running similar nose like Merc for a year and didnt have problems with passing crash test, while RBR tried 60 times with Ferrari like nose.

Other then that, these are two nose philosophies. One (RBR/Fer) tries to maximize air passage under the nose towards the back of the car, while Merc style nose tries to push the air around thinner nose.

**Nand0Nand0** · 15th March 2016, 03:20

Originally Posted by Rallyrob

The more they talk and Ferrari remains quiet tells me those Mercedes guys are scared.

Give the man a cigar

**PURE PASSION** · 15th March 2016, 08:29

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**bondilad** · 15th March 2016, 08:38

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

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Nice !

**SashAlex** · 15th March 2016, 08:59

Originally Posted by darkchild

Nose structure and front suspension is very different between teams, so it means very little that Merc passed crash test with theirs. Renault is running similar nose like Merc for a year and didnt have problems with passing crash test, while RBR tried 60 times with Ferrari like nose.

Other then that, these are two nose philosophies. One (RBR/Fer) tries to maximize air passage under the nose towards the back of the car, while Merc style nose tries to push the air around thinner nose.

We do get the point with the Mercedes style of the nose. But TR has the sane philosophy as Ferrari, but a much more advanced looking nose, right? And it passed the crash test at first.

**stefa** · 15th March 2016, 09:50

Originally Posted by PURE PASSION

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**gjoko-mkd** · 15th March 2016, 17:11

**subfire91** · 15th March 2016, 18:57

Originally Posted by SashAlex

We might see the new front and back wings with some minor aero updates here and there. Mostly sure the nose stays the same, even for a while, and no S-Duct.

This time it has to be something. We all understood what was the test program. But here it's the real deal and there has to be some updates.

Reading that the team is confident with the windtunnel data and the there is an inner low-profile confidence, it seems logic we didn't see them in Barcelona, where the car as a base package seemed fast. That can give us also a bit of a confident hope that with the aero updates to the car, we'll be even quicker.

no S duct ??