2018 Austrian GP - Practices and Qualifying

**Vettel165** · 30th June 2018, 18:21

Well even Carlos didnt want a Vettel penalty. Take a look at this I am angry in the heath of the moment. Hope you understand.

https://twitter.com/...067517290598400

**Ferrarichamp** · 30th June 2018, 18:22

Maybe all is not lost and Kimi will win the race

**nani_s23** · 30th June 2018, 18:42

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

And what about this one

But not worth a penalty because it happened to Vettel.

Yes this should have been a penalty definetly...!! Sebs on fast lap

**nani_s23** · 30th June 2018, 18:44

I’m shocked to see vet penalty...!! I

**jgonzalesm6** · 30th June 2018, 18:44

So a 5 second penalty for the lap 1 incident with Bottas at Paul Ricard but a 3 place grid drop for something irrelevant as Sainz was already through to Q3.

O well, welcome to F1.

**coshida** · 30th June 2018, 18:47

This must be a curse.

**DelMar** · 30th June 2018, 18:47

Originally Posted by Golfsmith

Ferrari MUST get out of this BRITISH controlled sport.

I hope this new F1 will be a big mess.

This F1 is only for one British team and driver and no one will be allowed to win but them.

When I heard the penalty, I was kind of sure Derek Warwick was one of the stewards.
Then checked, yeah he is one of them. This is not much different form choosing one of those SKY clowns as a steward.

**zike** · 30th June 2018, 18:50

Originally Posted by DelMar

When I heard the penalty, I was kind of sure Derek Warwick was of the stewards.
Then checked, yeah he is one of them. This is not much different form choosing of of those SKY clowns as a steward.

And Ferrari always keeps quite, strange

**Golfsmith** · 30th June 2018, 19:07

And Ferrari always keeps quite, strange

Are Ferrari getting money for doing nothing so that the Merc clowns can win and look good with tinker bell.

**nani_s23** · 30th June 2018, 19:10

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

So a 5 second penalty for the lap 1 incident with Bottas at Paul Ricard but a 3 place grid drop for something irrelevant as Sainz was already through to Q3.

O well, welcome to F1.

I’m deeply disappointed with this show. If vet was given penalty at this, why didn’t steward react to ham & Gros last year??
Also @tifosi posted one video, vet was on fast lap then slowed at last because of others at that high speed. They didn’t give penalty for that.
Seriously I’m becoming mad soon gonna break something at home.

**512 TR** · 30th June 2018, 19:15

Just read about Seb's penalty. That's the race then. Millions robbed of tomorrows showdown now. Pathetic!

**jgonzalesm6** · 30th June 2018, 19:16

just a heads up on LeClerc's gearbox change:

It was not a gearbox failure but a broken driveshaft. Not possible to exchange just a driveshaft in 1.5hrs, quicker to exchange the whole transmission

**Nick Singer** · 30th June 2018, 19:19

Originally Posted by zike

And Ferrari always keeps quite, strange

I'm increasingly feeling that Ferrari - and some of the big manufacturers - should head on over to Endurance racing and bring back the great days of sports car racing.. #24heuresDuMans etc.

Far more relevant to 'normal' motoring and I believe it IS possible for cars to overtake each other.

I fear that, under Liberty, F1 is going to become the motorsport version of that abysmal WWE/ WWF/ WWS or whatever the sham wrestling is called.

As someone who went to his first GP at Brands Hatch in 1972, I find the direction of travel in F1 to be 'heading down the lavatory..'!

**Nick Singer** · 30th June 2018, 19:21

Jesus! Grosjean 5th! Expect Safety Car on lap 1 with that ****** that far up the grid!

**nani_s23** · 30th June 2018, 19:35

Funny thing, ferrari positions didn’t change from France gp 3rd n 6th. (Vet 3rd & kimi 6th)
It’s just the drivers got swapped. (3rd kimi, 6th vet)

**512 TR** · 30th June 2018, 19:50

I would serioulsly consider Ferrari telling Kimi to run into Lewis at T1 tomorrow, or just tell him to forget to break. Afterall, it was Lewis and Lauda who were most vocal last week about Seb finishing ahead of Bottas after the crash, not Bottas himself (not even Toto). Today, it's not even Sainz himself who is most vocal but rather sorry excuses for people like Lewis' fans and people who dislike Seb in general. Kimi has nothing to lose and taking one for the team is the best option to help the team. Seriously. Destroying Lewis's race is the only way now to keep both championships alive. Kimi will then get a big penalty and then they can change his engine for Silverstone. At least the team will get something out of it. Perfect! Just do it.

See, I can say this even if I bring the sport into disrepute. Because I don't care as it's all corrupt anway.

**zike** · 30th June 2018, 19:56

Originally Posted by 512 TR

I would serioulsly consider Ferrari telling Kimi to run into Lewis at T1 tomorrow, or just tell him to forget to break. Afterall, it was Lewis and Lauda who were most vocal last week about Seb finishing ahead of Bottas after the crash, not Bottas himself (not even Toto). Today, it's not even Sainz himself who is most vocal but rather sorry excuses for people like Lewis' fans and people who dislike Seb in general. Kimi has nothing to lose and taking one for the team is the best option to help the team. Seriously. Destroying Lewis's race is the only way now to keep both championships alive. Kimi will then get a big penalty and then they can change his engine for Silverstone. At least the team will get something out of it. Perfect! Just do it.

See, I can say this even if I bring the sport into disrepute. Because I don't care as it's all corrupt anway.

With our luck Gro will take out both Ferraris

**nani_s23** · 30th June 2018, 20:00

Originally Posted by zike

With our luck Gro will take out both Ferraris

**nani_s23** · 30th June 2018, 20:03

Originally Posted by 512 TR

I would serioulsly consider Ferrari telling Kimi to run into Lewis at T1 tomorrow, or just tell him to forget to break. Afterall, it was Lewis and Lauda who were most vocal last week about Seb finishing ahead of Bottas after the crash, not Bottas himself (not even Toto). Today, it's not even Sainz himself who is most vocal but rather sorry excuses for people like Lewis' fans and people who dislike Seb in general. Kimi has nothing to lose and taking one for the team is the best option to help the team. Seriously. Destroying Lewis's race is the only way now to keep both championships alive. Kimi will then get a big penalty and then they can change his engine for Silverstone. At least the team will get something out of it. Perfect! Just do it.

See, I can say this even if I bring the sport into disrepute. Because I don't care as it's all corrupt anway.

I wouldn’t say like this rather if I was Kimi I would race hard with a good start n go for it. In such process, if he contacts with either of the mercs I wouldn’t mind. But if it’s Lewis I would better be happy with damaged car.

**512 TR** · 30th June 2018, 20:08

Originally Posted by zike

With our luck Gro will take out both Ferraris

Even in that scenario Kimi will get to Lewis first before Grosjean gets to him. I'll take that.

**jgonzalesm6** · 30th June 2018, 20:10

Originally Posted by zike

With our luck Gro will take out both Ferraris

shhhhhh zike.....don't jinx it already.

All GRO needs to do is just hold position, shadow when either of the Merc's pit for tire strat. and bring it home. If this guy CANNOT convert some serious pts for the HAAS team, then he's jinxed...period.

**tifosi1993** · 30th June 2018, 20:12

Originally Posted by 512 TR

I would serioulsly consider Ferrari telling Kimi to run into Lewis at T1 tomorrow, or just tell him to forget to break. Afterall, it was Lewis and Lauda who were most vocal last week about Seb finishing ahead of Bottas after the crash, not Bottas himself (not even Toto). Today, it's not even Sainz himself who is most vocal but rather sorry excuses for people like Lewis' fans and people who dislike Seb in general. Kimi has nothing to lose and taking one for the team is the best option to help the team. Seriously. Destroying Lewis's race is the only way now to keep both championships alive. Kimi will then get a big penalty and then they can change his engine for Silverstone. At least the team will get something out of it. Perfect! Just do it.

See, I can say this even if I bring the sport into disrepute. Because I don't care as it's all corrupt anway.

So you wouldn't have any problem if Mercedes orders Bottas to cause a collision with Vettel?

**jgonzalesm6** · 30th June 2018, 20:15

tires left for the race...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg9jC77WkAEFJ-1.jpg

**jgonzalesm6** · 30th June 2018, 20:18

Originally Posted by 512 TR

I would serioulsly consider Ferrari telling Kimi to run into Lewis at T1 tomorrow, or just tell him to forget to break. Afterall, it was Lewis and Lauda who were most vocal last week about Seb finishing ahead of Bottas after the crash, not Bottas himself (not even Toto). Today, it's not even Sainz himself who is most vocal but rather sorry excuses for people like Lewis' fans and people who dislike Seb in general. Kimi has nothing to lose and taking one for the team is the best option to help the team. Seriously. Destroying Lewis's race is the only way now to keep both championships alive. Kimi will then get a big penalty and then they can change his engine for Silverstone. At least the team will get something out of it. Perfect! Just do it.

See, I can say this even if I bring the sport into disrepute. Because I don't care as it's all corrupt anway.

On a serious level 512TR, would'nt the reward be that much more sweeter if one or both of the Ferrari's wins on merit.....given the challenges ahead of them???

**512 TR** · 30th June 2018, 20:37

Originally Posted by tifosi1993

So you wouldn't have any problem if Mercedes orders Bottas to cause a collision with Vettel?

You mean Bottas should throw away a better than 50% chance of winning the race just so Seb won't score any points at all? How is that similar to Kimi's position knowing Merc i 1-2 on the starting grid.

**512 TR** · 30th June 2018, 20:38

Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6

On a serious level 512TR, would'nt the reward be that much more sweeter if one or both of the Ferrari's wins on merit.....given the challenges ahead of them???

...and the chance of that happening now is how big with Seb down in 6th?

**ferrari1.8t** · 30th June 2018, 20:45

Originally Posted by FerrariSteve

What an utter EFFING joke, seems the Mercs can cheat and get away with anything and their drivers can do as they wish without penalty (Bottas on Kimi)
Yet Ferrari get cra**ed on time and time again.

Well they just handed this race to goldenboy on a silver platter, what a JOKE.

it's not Formula 1 it's Formula Mercedes.

You all are just realizing this now? It has been formula-Mercedes-hamilton since the hybrid era began. Hamilton is a manufactured champion who can do no wrong. Ferrari is always scrutinized harder than merc, always has been and always will. It pains me to say this, but hamilton will be a five time champion by the end of the season...maybe earlier by the looks of it. Sickening to watch that arrogant rat catch and beat Schumacher’s records...absolutely sickening.

Also, they gave Seb this penalty because Hamilton cried so much about his 5 second penalty last weekend...

**Ed Harley** · 30th June 2018, 20:51

Some forum members seem to have slightly mixed feelings about the F1.

**ferrari1.8t** · 30th June 2018, 20:53

Originally Posted by Ed Harley

Some forum members seem to have slightly mixed feelings about the F1.

Can you expect us not to? It complete joke now...the bias against ferrari is unbelievable. I’m not even going to get started.
Hoping for a good clean race and that Seb can do some damage limitation in regards to the WDC.

**mwk360** · 30th June 2018, 20:55

how about that positivity, could'v started from the back of the grid ...J.K, damn Ferrari throwing away more points with not informing seb, but dont worry we'l forget all the teams errors and just blame seb and kimi when clean sheet hamilton is handed the fifth WDC later this year

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