Guys, what was Leclerc's posted lap time when he got knocked out?? (sub 1:12's???)
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Yes there’s a support to vettel. I agree.
To break that, Lec consistently need to outqualify his team mate right.
Not just sitting behind his team mate & show that he is fast ??
The same with vettel, need to prove that he’s still faster than his team mate.
See there are lot of pros & cons for earlier races who is fast who is slow ???
The equation is both are fast drivers, vettel getting top of it with what he has..!! Never blames the team even with strategy calls. He takes the responsibility as a team not as a individual.
Same thing with Lec, he should not speak too much.
Although these strategy mistakes happen, he should consistently outscore his team mate who’s also a fast driver.
Then he will be recognised as potential championship contender Provided car is strong.
Bahrain Lec was fast, not only fast. He’s even faster than ham. But it’s just one race.
He was recognised & given ferrari seat because of his consistency at Sauber.
Sad that we couldn’t see his quali performance at this track due to ferrari poor strategy.
Tmrw there’s a tough race for him. But what star drivers do is they just don’t sit behind slow cars. Tmrw his race skills will be tested on a tough track. Hope he comes out on top.
I do support both drivers. Both are fast.
do you see Charles crashing and spinning everywhere? and those WDC's were won when and with so good RB that even Webber would have won WDC with that one. not a valid argument today. stop living in past. today Vettel crashed in FP3 and was oh so close to crashing in qualifying - 4x WDC performance
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Did he had wheel to wheel action in a big team ??? He was dominant in F2, have u watched his races where he spun in couple of races.
I was the one who was voicing to bring Charles into ferrari, just wanted to remind you.
Don’t want to drag this further more into vettel vs Lec .... damn every weekend same story.
Lec got out because team wantedly did it to him.....!! Funny how things are seen.
and nani-s23, you forgot to answer me - how can Charles outqualify Vettel if the team does not send him out in critical minutes. very interested to read your theory
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Yes.... doesn’t it reflect in quali ??
In race it’s different equation, sometimes Charles is faster n other it’s vettel.
Unless you don’t have a strong car, you can’t differentiate two fast drivers.
Look at bottas, last year he was playing 2nd fiddle to ham. This year he raised his game n performing on par with ham.
Hope he continues this, but in long run team definitely favours ham. Ham needs that. Any top driver needs that kind of support. Same goes for max in RB, Although gasly is slow.
DR made a move because team did favour max more than him. And also max is faster than DR.
So you need to earn that place. Hope Lec achieves it.
I want both our drivers fighting for WDC against Ham.
Yes, Jock Clear is 50% to blame.
Leclerc, IMO, is the other 50% to blame. (Why Leclerc Joe?? What did he do wrong). Leclerc posted a sub 1:12(and change I think????) before the whole weigh bridge debacle. Have we not seen Leclerc post sub 1:11's...enough to get him into the next qualifying stint....but he did'nt now this time . So, IMO, Leclerc is 50% to blame as well. Again, relying on that sub 1:12 time before the weigh bridge.
It's not how start but how you finish.
i'm saying that it looks like all their brainpower is going for serving a Vettel, because if they had any left, they would have seen that even MAG had better time and reacted to that. but no, they just speak about their calculated cut-off time and ignored the reality.
so it was not Charles' fault that he didn't get proper chance to beat Vettel.
and dear as you point so clearly out - Vettel is 4x WDC, Charles' is on his second season, but he has to be held back so that Vettel wouldn't start crying. quali standing after 5 races (and i won't count today's because it was such Ferrari ****-up) does not speak yet about anything
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Well yes, in the whole big picture after 5 races....of course.
But in this isolated case, Leclerc did lock-up during one of his laps. Again, Leclerc can post sub 1:11's when it counts but this time it did'nt.
Maybe it's the drivers pushing an already "weak" car hard enough that they are making mistakes on the this particular track???
It's not how start but how you finish.
Yes to last point which u made.
Drivers are pushing really hard & during this they are making mistakes.
Particularly vettel. FP3, q1, q3.
Same thing happened with Lec. Q1 mistake. Which proved costly to him.
Interesting thing for both drivers they were struggling with front end left tyre lock up which shows car weakness.
It's not Leclerc's fault at all. His times were competitive all session until they weren't.
Every time, I think, "I am sure the team knows what they are doing," and then I am treated to what turns out to be an irretrievably stupid strategy.
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Just returned home from motorcycle trip, Ferrari didn't surprise as I can see, they ****ed up Leclerc's qualy and Vettel almost 3/4 slower that Merc and one RB ahead... Tomorrow the same thing, I am going to see Muse concert and after it I will just check another disappointing result and a weekend to forget and other bla bla.... Hard Ferrari fan day/months/years...[emoji25]
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