When there’s a good car, your driver will make the difference in such conditions.
They will find the sweet spot & make it work. That’s how RB & Mercs cars are & their drivers are making difference.
When you don’t have a good car, wt will driver do? How can he find traction or grip?
Ok tell me when was the last time ferrari car won in wet race? Leave Alonso & schumi
Quaifying results...usng full wets. Rain is the great equalizer...given the track, the cars and their drivers.
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It's not how start but how you finish.
So you are saying Mercedes is a worse car than the Mclaren, because Bottas got out-qualified by Sainz. Good to know.
And why would I ever leave out Schumi or Alonso? if both of them can win races in a dog of a car like 1996 or 2012 Ferrari, you atleast expect current Ferrari drivers to beat Gasly or Ocon, and qualify inside the top 10.
I don't know why, but Ferrari have been terrible in rainy conditions for several seasons.
I’m asking about the car & your are asking drivers.
RB was always a good car aerodynamically. It’s no matter whether you accept it or not.
It was proved when vettel was in there & now max.
Mercs you know It’s their era, their car is suitable to every condition except hot where they have cooling issue.
and talking about drivers, when you have a good car in hand they make the talk through their driving that’s what max & ham are doing.
Now that even Alfa car is strong in these conditions, it doesn’t mean that kvyat or Ocon or sainz or Norris etc are better than Lec & vettel.
Not a surprising result. Driving in the rain is all about confidence our drivers have absolutely no confidence in that car. This is going to be a brutal season.
That's a pretty broad sweeping brush... Renault isn't very good either, does that mean the French are no good either?
It's a bit ironic that you're a fan of an Italian team given how stupid you think Italians are, maybe follow another team that doesn't have any Italians involved, might be better for your health...
Rest in Peace Leza, you were a true warrior...
Yup, Rain was, is and always will be the great equalizer. On a dry qualy, Bottas could've easily gotten the pole today, and neighter Sainz or Ocon would be anywhere near the top 3. But wet race track changes thing, and now Bottas is 1.4 seconds behind Hamilton and Sainz is in P3.
I have high hopes for Leclerc and regard him quite highly, but that doesn't make me blind. Leclerc is not the complete package like Ham or Max, maybe one day he will be but right now he isn't. Getting out classed by Gasly in a Alfa or Ocon in a Reanult in the wets is not a good thing.
F2 race in the wet now, got to see it!
"Formula 1 is not a sport anymore” - Fernando Alonso
I think we will be better in the race we knew we'd struggle over 1 lap especially with the rain. As I said before if Charles can escape with a 2nd and 5th from the first two races id call that a win overall given the circumstances and hopefully we can push a bit more from Hungary onwards.
Never said anyone of them are better than Lec or Vet. That's your conclusion not mine.
But I'm not going to cast a blind eye on today's result. Ferrari getting out-qualified by Ocon or Gasly...it's not down to the car. And you can come up with all sorts of excuses, but there is no way in hell I'm going to accept that the SF1000 is a worse car than Gasly's Alpha Tauri. And only 0.008 seconds better than Russell's Williams.
And Dani Ric was used be a solid wet driver as well. But today he got out-qualified by Ocon. So again, it's not the car, not always that is. And if Max or Ham were driving other car, they would still be competitive in the wet condition.
We can play this game all day along, as you've already done, mentioning the Monza 2017 wet qualifying while ignoring Hungary 2018. But that's just waste of time.
In this conditions, a F1 car will never reach it's dry weather speed, so it's never going to generate enough downforce. Some drivers know how to find the grip in a wet surface, some dont. It's just the way it is.
Such a nice and worm weather in Belgrade 34C. I am so glad I'am outside spending good quallity time with family and not wasting it on this... what ever... Tomorrow I will do it again, as anything else would be just wasting time and energy on nothing! And now to those who are goin to jump over me and say that I am not true supporter and all other usual "wich hunt" phrases, say what you want and live in a bubble. I was there to watch and support Ferrari since early 80's when things ware even worse, and I was there when great MS brought all the joy and glory to Ferrari supporters.
This. Lewis showed how good he was in the rain right in his first season - see Japan 2007.
Max in his second season proved himself in Brazil in 2016.
Charles is good in the dry, really good and a skilled overtaker but so far his performances in the wet were a let down.
I am amazed by what Gasly and Ocon achieved today, especially Ocon, after 1 year pause he started really good.
Atleast you are having a good time.
And the great MS had a proper racing team around him. No politics, not wasting their breathe about passion, pride and some other ********! They were motivated, with a inspiring driver on track and inspiring and capable leaders off track.
But that's not the case today, unfortunately. AS the great Lauda said back in 2009, the "Spaghetti Culture" has returned, and it's going to be there as long as the F1 base remain in Maranello.
Wierd??? Seb talking to Toto after qualifying.
https://twitter.com/FiftyBucksss/sta...71790261235712
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It's not how start but how you finish.
It was cruising for bruising
Thank you.
Regarding culture and nationality... I don't want to speak about that topic, as it is awkward... I do agree with some things, as I had the opportunity to speak back in 2000 with some people that used to work for F1 team, and one that ware working at that time. Some interesting things I have learned....
More salt on the wound......
[Autosport]
Charles Leclerc faces a double investigation after StyrianGP qualifying, as he failed to immediately pit under a red flag and allegedly impeded Daniil Kvyat
It's not how start but how you finish.
it's a combination of both mate.....chassis is just a much TRASH as the engine is......BOTH ARE TRASH.....
looks like a painfull 2 years for us coming.....and in 2022 when rules reset....well i won't hold my breath that ferrair will produce a better car with the new rules revamp....
Wow... you know so little, yet you think about yourself so much... What about driveability? Power delivery? Nothing? Crucial stuff in wet. And I don't even talk about aero stability, which is so important. Willisams may have less downforce, but if it is more stable, easier to drive, have better power delivery... The cars are not black and white. Btw you are basically saying that Leclerc is worse, than so many drivers from "lesser" teams, which is bull**** and you know it. Ferrari SF1000 is just pathetic excuse of a car. And you can say whatever you want ;)
"If he can't do it with Ferrari, well, he can't do it." - John Surtees
Good to see that Hamilton has improved his wet driving skills after crashes in Brazil 2018 qualifying and Germany 2019 race!
The above is for the few who think that it's Hamilton making difference and nothing to do with the car. Going by the same logic, Rosberg beat Hamilton to pole numerous times in Mercedes, does that make Rosberg better driver than Hamilton?
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