StyrianGP 2020: RACE

[Aziz]

They spent the extra time off developing masks while everyone else spent the time developing their cars.

Ferrari has their priorities all in line.

Will heads roll???? And if yes, when???

[chinmay]

We could be heading towards a third consecutive Austrian Grand Prix. Hungarian GP could be cancelled because of risks of huge fine and even jail in case of breach of rules.

[chinmay]

Update: There won't be any 3rd Austrian Grand Prix.

Official statement:

The suggestion that we stay in Austria for a third race is not correct. The whole Formula 1 community has started the season well in Austria and they are all very excited to go to our next race in Hungary - a circuit that is a big favourite with all our fans and the teams.

[doublesixes]

Oh dear...where to start. Both our drivers are below par as far as understanding that the team comes first as shown in the last 2 races (Vettel ridiculous move a week ago and Leclerc's today's mistake). Binotto is failing as a team manager and the technical department is so behind the rest, it's not even funny. Perhaps a total reshuffle is in order. Or an exit from F1 until the house is back in order.

[Christopher]

Not a single Ferrari engine in the top 10. First time since Mexico 2015. Also Alfa and Haas seem to have major fuel issues as well they had to lift and coast all race. So it's seems poor fuel consumption is yet another issue with this year's PU.

[ferenc_k]

Not a single Ferrari engine in the top 10. First time since Mexico 2015. Also Alfa and Haas seem to have major fuel issues as well they had to lift and coast all race. So it's seems poor fuel consumption is yet another issue with this year's PU.

because they are probably using an engine based on the 2016 one?

[Aziz]

Not a single Ferrari engine in the top 10. First time since Mexico 2015. Also Alfa and Haas seem to have major fuel issues as well they had to lift and coast all race. So it's seems poor fuel consumption is yet another issue with this year's PU.

Paying 20 mil for this GP2 engine is insane. I hope the have a get out clause in the contract

[The Architect]

Cheers to Charles for giving me the afternoon off. We'd probably have been fighting with Alfa/Haas otherwise. I think they're due for a refund on those engines.

[wisepie]

Not a single Ferrari engine in the top 10. First time since Mexico 2015. Also Alfa and Haas seem to have major fuel issues as well they had to lift and coast all race. So it's seems poor fuel consumption is yet another issue with this year's PU.

Something doesn't add up with the huge loss of power on our engine, if it is a newly designed engine after the FIA investigation there is no excuse for it to have become less powerful and less fuel-efficient. We should be given a complete explanation instead of Binotto's platitudes but I suppose that would mean admitting to our past misdemeanours. It's getting to the drivers too, having to make up for what is lacking in every area.

[hakanabi]

F1 Styrian GP: Renault lodges protest against Racing Point cars

Renault has lodged a formal protest against both Racing Point Formula 1 cars following Sunday's Styrian Grand Prix.

It comes amid concerns from Renault over a possible breach by Racing Point of F1's ban on customer cars and shared parts over the similarities between the Racing Point RP20 and Mercedes' 2019 title-winning W10.

Renault is known to have been considering a protest against Racing Point for some time over the matter, but opted against doing so in the first Red Bull Ring race last weekend.

Racing Point put in an impressive display at the Red Bull Ring on Sunday as Sergio Perez and Lance Stroll finished sixth and seventh respectively, beating Renault's Daniel Ricciardo to eighth at the line.

But Renault has now launched an official protest against both Racing Point cars, confirmed by the stewards in a bulletin on Sunday evening.

The stewards' report confirmed there was a "protest lodged by Renault DP World F1 Team, alleged breach of Art. 2.1, 3.2, Appendix 6 Paragraph 1, 2(a) and 2(c) of the FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations 2020 during the Race."

The early articles stress that all competitors must ensure their cars are fully eligible to enter the championship, something Renault is protesting Racing Point is in breach of.

The cited articles in Appendix 6 of the sporting regulations read that: "A competitor shall, in respect of the Listed Parts to be used in its cars in Formula One, only use Listed Parts which are designed by it."

"The obligation to design and use Listed Parts shall not prevent a competitor from Outsourcing the design and/or manufacture of any Listed Parts to a third party (including an Associate of such competitor) provided that:

"It retains the exclusive right to use the Listed Parts in Formula One so long as it competes in Formula One.

"In the case of the Outsourcing of design, such third party shall not be a competitor or a party that directly or indirectly designs Listed Parts for any competitor."

Racing Point has been open in its plan to base the design of the RP20 car on last year's Mercedes, and took a number of listed parts from Mercedes as part of their technical collaboration.

McLaren team principal Andreas Seidl has regularly referred to Racing Point's car as "last year's Mercedes", but said in Austria last week there were "no grounds" on which to submit a protest.

A short statement from Renault reads: "We confirm that Renault DP World F1 Team has submitted a request to the Stewards of the Event for clarification on the legality of the Racing Point RP20.

"We have no further comment on this matter until the Stewards have arrived at a decision."

[stefa]

It has been resetting 12 years already.

But they have problem with wind tunnel correlation...

[stefa]

They spent the extra time off developing masks while everyone else spent the time developing their cars.

Ferrari has their priorities all in line.

[paolo lalli]

Binnotto was right that the corona virus played a big part in the direction Ferrari were heading.Title for best mask construction Ferrari will win.3 months of masks being made to deal with the Italian pandemic.Well it worked it helped flatten the virus curve big time in Italy and at the same time flattened ferrari completely.

[JPZ]

Wonder how many more million viewers F1 will lose this year?

Last year it was 20 million.

[farid-baku]

One thing i cant understood what they did last year when all teams start to prepare to 2020 what Binotto and team did? Engine banned they come to Austria 2020 with Australian 2019 modificatiion engine but what give us new parts in Hungary if Ferrari dont have pace on straghts ?

[FFFerrari]

Absolutely boring race. Things happened on the first lap, bad things. Things happened on the last lap, racing things. Hungary will be snoozefest.

The current Ferrari engine is a complete and utter failure, as can be witnessed from all the three teams. I doubt much can be done about it during the season, so it will be Merc 1-2's most of the season. Once again.

[paolo lalli]

Well Ferrari have certainly hit the bottom the only way now for Ferrari is up.There is no time to be floating between the two zones, I hope they enjoy the goulash in hungry they say it's good for brain cells.

[Ferrari Man]

And how long have we been laughing at McLaren. Karma is a bitch

[stefa]

And how long have we been laughing at McLaren. Karma is a bitch

Always was, is and will be!

[Timpolidori]

Binnotto was right that the corona virus played a big part in the direction Ferrari were heading.Title for best mask construction Ferrari will win.3 months of masks being made to deal with the Italian pandemic.Well it worked it helped flatten the virus curve big time in Italy and at the same time flattened ferrari completely.

Title for best mask construction Ferrari will win.3 months of masks being made to deal with the Italian pandemic.Well it worked it helped flatten the virus curve big time in Italy and at the same time flattened ferrari completely.

We can smash out a bloody good mask though. Is there a formula for that perhaps??

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[WS6TransAm01]

COVID is just an excuse. The other teams had to deal with it and while dealing with it came up with updates. Whaaaaa we don’t want to get the sniffles so we’ll design these cool masks while our competitors design updates for their cars. Good job!

IF Ferrari got caught cheating last year with the engine so what? If you’re not cheating you’re not trying hard enough. The problem comes when you have a spineless leader who rolls over and takes it instead of fighting back. A leader who agrees to an engine freeze knowing full well his team will be utter crap for two years isn’t a leader. It’s effin weak sauce.

Binotto is an abysmal failure.

[WS6TransAm01]

COVID is just an excuse. The other teams had to deal with it and while dealing with it came up with updates. Whaaaaa we don’t want to get the sniffles so we’ll design these cool masks while our competitors design updates for their cars. Good job!

IF Ferrari got caught cheating last year with the engine so what? If you’re not cheating you’re not trying hard enough. The problem comes when you have a spineless leader who rolls over and takes it instead of fighting back. A leader who agrees to an engine freeze knowing full well his team will be utter crap for two years isn’t a leader. It’s effin weak sauce.

Binotto is an abysmal failure.

[JPMFerrari]

Bring back Ross Brawn!

[ferras]

Bring back Ross Brawn!

Believe or not, but it's not about team principal. Camilleri leads the parade with his own vision. Leclerc and Binotto are part of his vision. And it’s not my fantasy, it’s the facts. Please sit back and enjoy this Harry Potter team for the next few years

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[Brembo]

Not ever listening to team orders worked for Max. It's not working for Charles vs. Seb. Binotto caused this by sticking with Seb as #1 when Charles clearly ability wise showed him wrong.
Schumy with Todt and Ross clearly had in his contracts he was #1 . Rubens obeyed. Seb will not start a race as a #2 driver when it's between him & Charles. He's a 4x German WDC ! Charle's will not move over just for that reason, if he sees a chance to win or be on the podium. $ 50 million pay is just not enough to do what has to be done when Seb has to at least stay clear of his team mate when things are as was 1st. race. Charles will only do the same if he sees Seb doing what's right. Ferrari drivers need to fight on the track against the other teams; not each other !!

[nani_s23]

Not ever listening to team orders worked for Max. It's not working for Charles vs. Seb. Binotto caused this by sticking with Seb as #1 when Charles clearly ability wise showed him wrong.
Schumy with Todt and Ross clearly had in his contracts he was #1 . Rubens obeyed. Seb will not start a race as a #2 driver when it's between him & Charles. He's a 4x German WDC ! Charle's will not move over just for that reason, if he sees a chance to win or be on the podium. $ 50 million pay is just not enough to do what has to be done when Seb has to at least stay clear of his team mate when things are as was 1st. race. Charles will only do the same if he sees Seb doing what's right. Ferrari drivers need to fight on the track against the other teams; not each other !!

What is the context here & what you are talking
Always on vettel, give it a break man he’s leaving .
Next you gonna pull over sainz ?

[KimiBot]

1 Valtteri Bottas FIN MERCEDES 43
2 Lewis Hamilton GBR MERCEDES 37
3 Lando Norris GBR MCLAREN RENAULT 26
4 Charles Leclerc MON FERRARI 18
5 Sergio Perez MEX RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES 16
6 Max Verstappen NED RED BULL RACING HONDA 15
7 Carlos Sainz ESP MCLAREN RENAULT 13
8 Alexander Albon THA RED BULL RACING HONDA 12
9 Pierre Gasly FRA ALPHATAURI HONDA 6
10 Lance Stroll CAN RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES 6
11 Esteban Ocon FRA RENAULT 4
12 Daniel Ricciardo AUS RENAULT 4
13 Antonio Giovinazzi ITA ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 2
14 Daniil Kvyat RUS ALPHATAURI HONDA 1
15 Sebastian Vettel GER FERRARI 1
16 Nicholas Latifi CAN WILLIAMS MERCEDES 0
17 Kimi Räikkönen FIN ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 0
18 Kevin Magnussen DEN HAAS FERRARI 0
19 Romain Grosjean FRA HAAS FERRARI 0
20 George Russell GBR WILLIAMS MERCEDES 0

[KimiBot]

1 MERCEDES 80
2 MCLAREN RENAULT 39
3 RED BULL RACING HONDA 27
4 RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES 22
5 FERRARI 19
6 RENAULT 8
7 ALPHATAURI HONDA 7
8 ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 2
9 WILLIAMS MERCEDES 0
10 HAAS FERRARI 0

[nani_s23]

1 Valtteri Bottas FIN MERCEDES 43
2 Lewis Hamilton GBR MERCEDES 37
3 Lando Norris GBR MCLAREN RENAULT 26
4 Charles Leclerc MON FERRARI 18
5 Sergio Perez MEX RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES 16
6 Max Verstappen NED RED BULL RACING HONDA 15
7 Carlos Sainz ESP MCLAREN RENAULT 13
8 Alexander Albon THA RED BULL RACING HONDA 12
9 Pierre Gasly FRA ALPHATAURI HONDA 6
10 Lance Stroll CAN RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES 6
11 Esteban Ocon FRA RENAULT 4
12 Daniel Ricciardo AUS RENAULT 4
13 Antonio Giovinazzi ITA ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 2
14 Daniil Kvyat RUS ALPHATAURI HONDA 1
15 Sebastian Vettel GER FERRARI 1
16 Nicholas Latifi CAN WILLIAMS MERCEDES 0
17 Kimi Räikkönen FIN ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 0
18 Kevin Magnussen DEN HAAS FERRARI 0
19 Romain Grosjean FRA HAAS FERRARI 0
20 George Russell GBR WILLIAMS MERCEDES 0

Norris
Vettel :

[Rob]

COVID is just an excuse. The other teams had to deal with it and while dealing with it came up with updates. Whaaaaa we don’t want to get the sniffles so we’ll design these cool masks while our competitors design updates for their cars. Good job!

IF Ferrari got caught cheating last year with the engine so what? If you’re not cheating you’re not trying hard enough. The problem comes when you have a spineless leader who rolls over and takes it instead of fighting back. A leader who agrees to an engine freeze knowing full well his team will be utter crap for two years isn’t a leader. It’s effin weak sauce.

Binotto is an abysmal failure.

All the factories were shut down
https://www.racetechmag.com/2020/04/...tory-shutdown/

Plus those mask you think ferrari designed are bought in, red bull now use them, and mclaren been using same ones all the time aswell.

Real reason for whats going on is simple. Team's protested our car last year as we were quick, we got caught doing something merc been doing all the time but we got punished. But. Everyone not looking at merc engine, again this year they smoking, oil smoke been seen number of times. But apparently thats ok they just topping up oil to high. We did it. Oh we cheating, look at the engines.

Also, tracing point. Seems ok to copy a car. Haas looked abit like our car couple years ago, all hell broke loose.