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    This is by far our worst gp race pace wise!!!!!
    Both our drivers out of points purely on race pace!!!!
    All this is down to tire management but we have HUGE problem on this !!!!!!
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    We are supposed to be the barometer of F1.
    They’re more interested in selling merchandise than winning F1, perhaps..
    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    11th and 16th

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    All credits to Red Bull and Honda

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    MAX......YOUR AWESOME!!!
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    That was an insane drive by Max

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    Really poor from us and we need to understand why that happened as there are circuits coming up with similar characteristics.

    Well done Max. Made that an enjoyable race to watch given our performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrese86 View Post
    Really poor from us and we need to understand why that happened as there are circuits coming up with similar characteristics.

    Well done Max. Made that an enjoyable race to watch given our performance
    What is there to understand!!?!? We have week engine and not so good chassis

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    All credits to Red Bull and Honda
    +1
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrese86 View Post
    Really poor from us and we need to understand why that happened as there are circuits coming up with similar characteristics.
    Well, this is a true race track, so this is reality.

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    Well done Max... that was a great race.
    Horrible day for the Tifosi... But it was expected given these are power demanding circuits.
    I think we should focus on tuning our setup for race rather than qualifying atleast for those circuits which are power intensive, the RB Ring.

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    At least Max did offer some exciting racing today,

    bad was that both Ferraris were lapped.

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    Glad Max best Lewis but otherwise a waste of an hour and a half of my morning.

    Both Ferraris out of the points. Notch another abysmal failure on Harry Potter’s belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    All credits to Red Bull and Honda
    Frankly... who would have thought that Honda, who period with Mclaren showed that its engine won't survive in F-1, today is going head to head with Mercedes.
    Credits due to them.. they did a fantastic turn-around as an engine supplier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefa View Post
    What is there to understand!!?!? We have week engine and not so good chassis
    Well the chassis worked at Monaco. How do you move forward if you don't try to understand what went wrong. Why is it always so black and white? Every circuit is different. You'd have us never progress because you constantly cry and expect things to fix themselves as if by magic. I mean how do you think you get out of a whole? By shedding tears saying what is there to understand!!!! You'd go far mate, I'm surprised you aren't on the pit wall already. Clearly you have all the ****ing answers so throw in your CV and you might get a job!??

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    Monza is better than this because of a dominance by short and slow corners and everyone being forced to run low DF.

    Paul Ricard is the worst of both worlds and also a very windy circuit. Remember that even in 2018 and 2019 the car was quite slow there.

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    The performance gain on PU is relative, we made progress, but others already had a lead on us so its not that much to compete.
    Our chassis is built for a more powerful PU, hence we see it fails to perform on a power demanding circuit.

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    Can we tune our car to be setup for the race instead of qualifying??
    Is our race pace good enough?

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    I heard that we have some sort of Engineering Academy. Similar to our drivers academy. Does anyone have more info on that?

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    It is so obvious that we don't evolve this car at all.
    It's a good ish car in a lot of track's,but it also has some very dig flaws in straight line speed and tire management.
    I personally d
    ,despite my disappointment in Sundays like this ,don't care if we end up 3d or 4th (or even 5th) . I'm in a mood that I really see this year as team say it is. A year that we solve most of last years flaws but we can't solve everything under those rules (they literally don't allow you to change some parts). So we present a car and that's it for this year.
    I'm OK with this and I wait for next year .Not like we use to say it for many years ,but now I see that's something is very different. SO ,as I said before , I'm OK to give the team this one more chance to deliver next year.
    IF the fail again, I'm gonna stop care so much about them and F1 in general. Till now Ferrari F1 team was a very big part in my life . If they fail next year this will stop !!!!!!
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    I think we struggled with tyre wear more than anything else today.
    We were surprisingly OK in Baku which was a high power track. Would have expected similar results here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    I think we struggled with tyre wear more than anything else today.
    We were surprisingly OK in Baku which was a high power track. Would have expected similar results here.
    On pure pace we are OK. On tire earing tracks we will suffer BIG TIME!!!!
    FERRARI FOR EVER !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet View Post
    I think we struggled with tyre wear more than anything else today.
    We were surprisingly OK in Baku which was a high power track. Would have expected similar results here.
    Is it due to new tyre pressure mandated by Pirelli post Baku fiasco? Coz it does seem like it. Charles struggled in qualifying, the race result speaks for itself.
    Last edited by 20000rpm; 20th June 2021 at 16:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PURE PASSION View Post
    On pure pace we are OK. On tire earing tracks we will suffer BIG TIME!!!!
    When leclerc struggles, we can understand how hard is the car/tyres.

    Still the same problem tyres.

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    As I said earlier, this season RB-Max got the car to win. If it doesn’t happen for them this year, then it’s difficult for them to repeat it. They heavily invested for this season to give everything what Max wanted. Luckily they got Perez too, who is doing what bottas used to do for Mercs all these years.

    I feel WCC is in RB grab. WDC is a tight fight.

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    Austria will be a lot better because the lap is shorter (less energy), higher elevation (less HP for Honda & Mercedes), shorter straights (none longer than 800 m) and a dominance of slow and short corners which stresses the tyres a lot less and makes it difficult to warm them up. Actually, I'd expect a top five finish there on merit.

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    Updated Constructors' standings:

    1. Red Bull - 215 pts
    2. Mercedes - 178 pts
    3. McLaren - 110 pts
    4. Ferrari - 94 pts
    5. AlphaTauri - 45 pts
    6. Aston Martin - 40 pts
    7. Alpine - 29 pts
    8. Alfa Romeo - 2 pts
    9. Williams - 0 pts
    10. Haas - 0 pts


    Updated Drivers' standings after seven races:

    1. Verstappen - 131 pts
    2. Hamilton - 119 pts
    3. Perez - 84 pts
    4. Norris - 76 pts
    5. Bottas - 59 pts
    6. Leclerc - 52 pts
    7. Sainz - 42 pts
    8. Gasly - 37 pts
    9. Ricciardo - 34 pts
    10. Vettel - 30 pts
    It's not how start but how you finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari312T4 View Post
    I heard that we have some sort of Engineering Academy. Similar to our drivers academy. Does anyone have more info on that?
    Somehow I see the Ferrari Engineering Academy being much like the movie Police Academy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6TransAm01 View Post
    Somehow I see the Ferrari Engineering Academy being much like the movie Police Academy.
    Proctorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Hero's come and go, but legends never die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgonzalesm6 View Post
    Updated Constructors' standings:

    1. Red Bull - 215 pts
    2. Mercedes - 178 pts
    3. McLaren - 110 pts
    4. Ferrari - 94 pts
    5. AlphaTauri - 45 pts
    6. Aston Martin - 40 pts
    7. Alpine - 29 pts
    8. Alfa Romeo - 2 pts
    9. Williams - 0 pts
    10. Haas - 0 pts


    Updated Drivers' standings after seven races:

    1. Verstappen - 131 pts
    2. Hamilton - 119 pts
    3. Perez - 84 pts
    4. Norris - 76 pts
    5. Bottas - 59 pts
    6. Leclerc - 52 pts
    7. Sainz - 42 pts
    8. Gasly - 37 pts
    9. Ricciardo - 34 pts
    10. Vettel - 30 pts
    Wow, 4th place in the Constructor's championship is beyond bad.

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    Painful doesn't cover it, seeing both drivers out of the points makes a mockery of our team, it's embarrassing. We knew we'd probably struggle on this kind of circuit and whatever the reason for us destroying our tyres so badly (increased FIA/Pirelli pressures?), it was the same for everyone. We're down on power too, so I wouldn't blame Charles and Carlos for having a good old rant in the debrief. In the interest of the sport, they should allow Ferrari to use the 2019 engine (not illegal as such) and they'd have more than two teams fighting it out. Mclaren have shown us how to do it on strategy, which makes me even more mad and it makes us look like fools. Happy that Max got HAM, but I'm a very unhappy tifoso.

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