Hungarian GP 2021 : Race

[Nick Singer]

I just saw that the engine on Charles' car is beyond repair after Stroll's assault and will need a new one for Spa. That could mean penalties later in the second half of the season and giving Carlos a new ICE so early after the break is counter-productive if it's not needed. And aren't they only allowed 3 ICE units for the whole season? We may well start nearer the mid-field/back at Spa anyway, but that's no guarantee of avoiding any melee at the start! A gamble whichever way you look at it, and not the driver's fault.

Both Horner and Binotto floating the idea that those at fault should contribute to repair costs of others. Given the laughable 'budget cap' (death knell of F1) this is a serious matter. No way the teams and maFIA will ever agree but if a huge chunk of your CAPPED budget has to be spent on repairs caused by disciples of Onan such as BOT and STR something is definitely rotten in the state of Denmark!

[tpe]

For me the most important element is the engine. Why should the Victims of a crash take 10 places penalty?

[jgonzalesm6]

Pirelli 18 inch tire test today at the Hungary track today.

Leclerc completed 91 laps(morning) while Sainz did 82 laps (afternoon) for a total of 173 laps.

Russell did 137 in the W12

Norris did 122 laps.

[Nick Singer]

Pirelli 18 inch tire test today at the Hungary track today.

Leclerc completed 91 laps(morning) while Sainz did 82 laps (afternoon) for a total of 173 laps.

Russell did 137 in the W12

Norris did 122 laps.

I'm sure the data gathered will be straight off to Mercedes so they can input their desired specs...

#NotReallyCynical

[wisepie]

I'm sure the data gathered will be straight off to Mercedes so they can input their desired specs...

#NotReallyCynical

You are definitely angry, always, Nick and there are many of us who feel the same!

[Greig]

Aston Martin denied the right to appeal, they claimed a fuel leak, FIA say tough

[jgonzalesm6]

Aston Martin denied the right to appeal, they claimed a fuel leak, FIA say tough

Well yes. AMF1 claimed a faulty fuel pump. FIA said tough cookies. However, the appeal against the penalty is a separate and ongoing matter.

[Greig]

Well yes. AMF1 claimed a faulty fuel pump. FIA said tough cookies. However, the appeal against the penalty is a separate and ongoing matter.

No they have been refused the right to review it, so unless they take it further then the penalty will stand.

[jgonzalesm6]

No they have been refused the right to review it, so unless they take it further then the penalty will stand.

AMF1 is taking it further,hence why the appeal against the penalty is a separate and ongoing matter.

[Silent Bob]

Ya. I think this is a dead end for AM. FIA has given them a hard no.

[Greig]

AMF1 is taking it further,hence why the appeal against the penalty is a separate and ongoing matter.

They said they would consider their position, but as they have no new evidence that's the end of it really. As it stands they have no appeal it's been denied.

[ferrari1.8t]

Ya. I think this is a dead end for AM. FIA has given them a hard no.

Huge implications in the championship should it come down to 3 points at the end of the year.

[KimiBot]

1 Lewis Hamilton GBR MERCEDES 195
2 Max Verstappen NED RED BULL RACING HONDA 187
3 Lando Norris GBR MCLAREN MERCEDES 113
4 Valtteri Bottas FIN MERCEDES 108
5 Sergio Perez MEX RED BULL RACING HONDA 104
6 Carlos Sainz ESP FERRARI 83
7 Charles Leclerc MON FERRARI 80
8 Pierre Gasly FRA ALPHATAURI HONDA 50
9 Daniel Ricciardo AUS MCLAREN MERCEDES 50
10 Esteban Ocon FRA ALPINE RENAULT 39
11 Fernando Alonso ESP ALPINE RENAULT 38
12 Sebastian Vettel GER ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES 30
13 Yuki Tsunoda JPN ALPHATAURI HONDA 18
14 Lance Stroll CAN ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES 18
15 Nicholas Latifi CAN WILLIAMS MERCEDES 6
16 George Russell GBR WILLIAMS MERCEDES 4
17 Kimi Räikkönen FIN ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 2
18 Antonio Giovinazzi ITA ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 1
19 Mick Schumacher GER HAAS FERRARI 0
20 Nikita Mazepin RAF HAAS FERRARI 0



1 MERCEDES 303
2 RED BULL RACING HONDA 291
3 FERRARI 163
4 MCLAREN MERCEDES 163
5 ALPINE RENAULT 77
6 ALPHATAURI HONDA 68
7 ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES 48
8 WILLIAMS MERCEDES 10
9 ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 3
10 HAAS FERRARI 0

[ferrari1.8t]

1 Lewis Hamilton GBR MERCEDES 195
2 Max Verstappen NED RED BULL RACING HONDA 187
3 Lando Norris GBR MCLAREN MERCEDES 113
4 Valtteri Bottas FIN MERCEDES 108
5 Sergio Perez MEX RED BULL RACING HONDA 104
6 Carlos Sainz ESP FERRARI 83
7 Charles Leclerc MON FERRARI 80
8 Pierre Gasly FRA ALPHATAURI HONDA 50
9 Daniel Ricciardo AUS MCLAREN MERCEDES 50
10 Esteban Ocon FRA ALPINE RENAULT 39
11 Fernando Alonso ESP ALPINE RENAULT 38
12 Sebastian Vettel GER ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES 30
13 Yuki Tsunoda JPN ALPHATAURI HONDA 18
14 Lance Stroll CAN ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES 18
15 Nicholas Latifi CAN WILLIAMS MERCEDES 6
16 George Russell GBR WILLIAMS MERCEDES 4
17 Kimi Räikkönen FIN ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 2
18 Antonio Giovinazzi ITA ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 1
19 Mick Schumacher GER HAAS FERRARI 0
20 Nikita Mazepin RAF HAAS FERRARI 0



1 MERCEDES 303
2 RED BULL RACING HONDA 291
3 FERRARI 163
4 MCLAREN MERCEDES 163
5 ALPINE RENAULT 77
6 ALPHATAURI HONDA 68
7 ASTON MARTIN MERCEDES 48
8 WILLIAMS MERCEDES 10
9 ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI 3
10 HAAS FERRARI 0

Ham now leads Verstappen 195-187 instead of 192-186. Mercedes leads RB 303-291 instead of 300-290. May seem insignificant, but every point counts in this tight season.

At least Carlos and Ferrari got a podium and additional points after all this mess!

[SS454]

Huge implications in the championship should it come down to 3 points at the end of the year.

Aston Martin should have controlled their fuel level better. Regardless if it was a DQ or 10 second penalty, Vettel deserved the punishment as the rule is very clear about 1L left in the tank.

[tpe]

This is fishy

[Silent Bob]

Huge implications in the championship should it come down to 3 points at the end of the year.

No kidding. Remember at the beginning of this season when people were saying AM would be the 3rd best team and Ferrari would be lucky to finish 6th.

[Greig]

Huge implications in the championship should it come down to 3 points at the end of the year.

Ferrari v McLaren?

[ferrari1.8t]

Ferrari v McLaren?

lol. No. Verstappen vs Hamilton. I’m not RB fan, but I’m a fan of Verstappen protecting one of the last records that our Schumacher holds.

But yes, our extra points will inevitably help us take P3 from McLaren, which is great!!

[jgonzalesm6]

AMF1 drops their appeal. Seb is officially disqualified due to a technicallity. No fault of his own..

[wisepie]

Although Seb's disqualification and many like it are unfair on the drivers when it's a team mistake, I'm grateful for the extra points it gives Carlos. Likewise, drivers being penalised when they lose an engine through no fault of their own (Charles, Hungary) is not fair, either. Swings and roundabouts, I suppose.

[Brembo]

Max had; has the right idea, go for the win at any cost. The penalties are there even when it's not the drivers fault. For the most part it worked for him. Charles, Hungary is a true example.